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Old 03-30-2018, 05:51 AM   #40801
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Haha, I'm just razzing you. I agree, I'm just adopting the arguments I often see.
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Old 03-30-2018, 06:23 AM   #40802
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I was just thinking that I'd much prefer Rusev to win the Universal Title from Brock Lesnar than Roman Reigns. Have Rusev win The Greatest Royal Rumble and use the title shot to switch brands and challenge for the belt at Money in the Bank in Chicago. Cool the jets with Reigns a little. Rusev beats Brock and becomes the new god of wrestling.
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Old 03-30-2018, 06:25 AM   #40803
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Brock's final match at SummerSlam (providing he doesn't re-sign) is him putting over AJ Styles.
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Old 03-30-2018, 08:54 AM   #40804
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Edge and Christian's most recent podcast has an "anatomy of a match" with Bret Hart and Steve Austin where they essentially discuss their Wrestlemania 13 match spot for spot with concepts and intent of every step. I'm about to listen, so I can't vouch just yet, but I'm willing to bet it's pretty cool.
I liked it. I also appreciate how Austin still give Bret the same respect he probably gave him in 96/97. He doesn't act like a bigger deal, more insightful, they all just like to listen to Bret, because even though he rambles, he speaks a lot of truth. It may be truth through his warped perspective but it' truth.
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Old 03-30-2018, 09:57 AM   #40805
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Dr.D David Schultz was on Cornette's podcast this week. Awesome interview. Definitely picking up his book.
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Old 03-30-2018, 09:59 AM   #40806
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I listened to him on Steve Austin's pod cast, they were great. He was the first Texas Rattlesnake for WWE (or Tennessee Water Moccasin).
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Old 03-30-2018, 02:30 PM   #40807
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What should the kid's name have been, Oh Pristine One?
Blondie McDonkey Teeth. Takes an element from her mother and her old man, just perfect.
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Old 03-30-2018, 05:24 PM   #40808
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As a surname possibly, not heard it as a first name before
I guess you never heard of "Monroe Yoder"
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Old 03-30-2018, 05:38 PM   #40809
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Old 03-30-2018, 06:38 PM   #40810
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From reading the taping spoilers this was definitely recorded later.
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:07 PM   #40811
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Old 03-30-2018, 08:11 PM   #40812
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Old 03-30-2018, 08:48 PM   #40813
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Old 03-31-2018, 03:00 AM   #40814
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Was just watching some Smoky Mountain Wrestling, and Jim Cornette is cutting this great promo about an upcoming Rage in a Cage Match. It's very similar to War Games -- two teams of ten and you can only win by submission or handcuffing each member of the opposing team to the cage. But there's a nice little diversion in that the order of entry is designated by whomever has the advantage at the 5-minute mark. So, ideally, you'd have your babyface kick ass for 4 minutes, only for the heel to cheat and gain control just at that moment to begin a 2-on-1 beat-down.

I'd never heard of that stipulation before, and I thought it was quite nifty. They don't do War Games anymore, but if they did, something like that instead of a coin toss is pretty cool.
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Old 03-31-2018, 03:06 AM   #40815
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Old 03-31-2018, 03:10 AM   #40816
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That wouldn't surprise me. Cornette isn't the most innovative booker in history, and prefers to take stuff that works and adapt it.
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Old 03-31-2018, 09:19 AM   #40817
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I don't like the variable of the coin flip being determined on the fly like that. Even if it's a kayfabe fly. Who's calling the shot as to who has the advantage? And what constitutes as an advantage? What if they guys are just trading shots like Ishii and Suzuki? You can't even offer that option and that's trouble because now are you limiting the results in a very fake shitty way.

Like this would work for me during the John Laurinaitis era. He could've fucked over the faces and had them totally outnumbered for like 2 or 3 rounds until the babyface captain grabs him and hold's him over the stage to make him call for him to enter next. And then shove him off through some tables, go in and help even the score. It's Roman Reigns btw...
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Old 03-31-2018, 01:23 PM   #40818
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The coin toss is something that always took me out of War Games matches a bit. I mean, the heels HAD to win the coin toss. There's literally no way a match of that structure could work if the faces had the advantage every 5 minutes. But even in an environment where you have to suspend your disbelief, it seemed kinda dumb that the heels won the 50/50 coin toss 100% of the time.
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Old 03-31-2018, 01:32 PM   #40819
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That's true, and that plot hole is a great example of the difference in WWE and WCW/southern booking. Not to say WWE can't be accused of plot holes in the past, the coin flip is totally a southern thing. I prefer not to have to suspend my disbelief beyond the parameters already set out when sitting down to watch wrestling. For me the advantage should be decided in a match before the show between the captains or before the match. Or if they had two strong looking guys maybe an arm wrestling match. Or a tug of war between teams.
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Old 03-31-2018, 07:21 PM   #40820
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Seems WWE really is committed to Hogan staying banned at least for a while longer.

Denied Hillbilly Jim's request for Hogan to induct him and instead it will be Jimmy Hart doing the honors next week.
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Seems WWE really is committed to Hogan staying banned at least for a while longer.

Denied Hillbilly Jim's request for Hogan to induct him and instead it will be Jimmy Hart doing the honors next week.
I wouldn't mind him coming back as SDL's next GM. Stupid internet has made it where if you don't walk on water your whole life and they find out about one mistake, you're instantly a piece of garbage and nobody lets them live it down ever.

People really need to learn to forgive and forget again.
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I wouldn't mind him coming back as SDL's next GM. Stupid internet has made it where if you don't walk on water your whole life and they find out about one mistake, you're instantly a piece of garbage and nobody lets them live it down ever.

People really need to learn to forgive and forget again.
You're just sympathetic because you say racist shit all the time too and act like it's no big deal...
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I wouldn't mind him coming back as SDL's next GM. Stupid internet has made it where if you don't walk on water your whole life and they find out about one mistake, you're instantly a piece of garbage and nobody lets them live it down ever.

People really need to learn to forgive and forget again.
People make mistakes, absolutely. I'm black and personally wouldn't mind him back, although honestly, my perception of him changed after that, and I know a lot of other people, not just black people, who feel the same.

In my own experiences, I've dealt with white people, people I've respected and grown up with, who I shared experiences with, who I thought were cool, understanding, and not hateful, and then found out what they truly thought of my race, my people, me, etc. I've mistakenly heard what they thought was a private conversation, and heard the same words from them that Hogan said. Did I forgive them? Absolutely. Did I fuck with them after that? Nah. My perception of them had changed. I was more hurt than anything. But forget? No. This is not me playing "oh woe is me" its just me stating a fact: If you are not black you do not know what that feels like to hear that word come out of a white persons mouth.

Everyone knew Hogan wasn't a saint before that, so no one was asking him to walk on water....but I think it's really, really, reaaaaaaallly easy to tell OTHER people how they should feel and that they should "forgive and forget" when you're not the one that was offended or targeted by what he said.
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Assuming the stuff about WWE wanting to use the Hogan controversy simply to get sympathy for Hogan in the end, WWE is a lot better off from a PR perspective to just keep him banished.

WWE runs the big risk of it not coming off as sincere and making things a lot worse for them afterwards.
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Seems WWE really is committed to Hogan staying banned at least for a while longer.

Denied Hillbilly Jim's request for Hogan to induct him and instead it will be Jimmy Hart doing the honors next week.
That's probably the next best to Hogan.
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Old 04-01-2018, 02:00 AM   #40826
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WWE uploaded the entire WM28 Taker vs HHH match w/o commentary:
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Old 04-01-2018, 02:46 AM   #40827
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Do those idiots even know what the fuck they are selling. How many times did they say WM 6.
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Just finished the month of April in my quest to watch all the WWF 1984 television as well as any house shows that I have in my collection. The Iron Shiek vs Sgt Slaughter feud is heating up and the angle with Cyndi Lauper is just starting. 1984 was such a fun year.
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Old 04-01-2018, 09:37 AM   #40830
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Let me know if you come across some stand out matches.
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Old 04-01-2018, 09:40 AM   #40831
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I've been going through the nostalgia time machine that is WWF Coliseum Video releases, at least what they have on the network right now which is a lot of them. They'll need to upload the Hulkamania Volumes soon, I hope.
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:11 AM   #40832
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Let me know if you come across some stand out matches.
FYI, this is all stuff I have saved on my external hard drive, not the Network.

You'll find those on the House Shows. The T.V matches usually run 2-5 minutes.

Pretty much anything Slaughter vs Shiek is a much watch.

Adonis and Murdoch just debuted on the May 5th 84 episode that I'm watching. They are my favourite tag team of the 80's.
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:21 AM   #40833
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I see. Where did you get your collection? Are you watching digital, tape or disk?
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I have an external hard drive that I plug into my blue ray.

Torrents, stuff I downloaded from YouTube, stuff sent to me.

Check out Rassel Reel's channel on youtube for most of the 1984 t.v
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I collect shows from 1978-86, but especially stuff from 1984 and any Philly Spectrum Shows from late 1980-late 1982 with Kal Rudman and Dick Graham on commentary .

I have all the t.v from 84, plus all the monthly MSG House shows, most of the Spectrum shows, a few shows from the Cap Centre and a few random house shows from the Kiel Auditorium, the Meadowlands and even a show from Puerto Rico
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WWE uploaded the entire WM28 Taker vs HHH match w/o commentary:
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I liked their match from the year prior better.
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I collect shows from 1978-86, but especially stuff from 1984 and any Philly Spectrum Shows from late 1980-late 1982 with Kal Rudman and Dick Graham on commentary .

I have all the t.v from 84, plus all the monthly MSG House shows, most of the Spectrum shows, a few shows from the Cap Centre and a few random house shows from the Kiel Auditorium, the Meadowlands and even a show from Puerto Rico
Why do you like this period so much?
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In 84 you have early Hogan title reign before he became obnoxious, Sheik vs Slaughter feud, Valentine vs Tito which is the greatest IC feud of all time, Snuka vs Piper feud, the whole Cyndi Lauper Angle, Adonis and Murdoch, plus it's interesting to watch the evolution of the company at the start of 84. It's my favourite year.

I look for Dick and Kal stuff because they are fucking hilarious

I got bored with current wrestling so I decided to go back and see how we got to this point. I find a lot of the stuff pre Backlund title win to be pretty dull for the most part, so I use 78 as my start point. There's a lot of cool stuff to go through. I haven't gone back to current wrestling since. Been about 3 years now. Most of my stuff is original footage with original commercials lol
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wasn't that the period where Valentine supposedly smashed the IC title belt across a steel cage and that's when they had the new one made or was that later?
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