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Old 07-13-2022, 10:58 PM   #401
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Old 07-14-2022, 03:34 AM   #402
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Yeah. Should have stuck with the gimmicked tampon.
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wait so Cora and Roxanne were teaming for less than a month, won the tag belts, and broke up a week later?

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Watched Great American Bash finally. Breakker vs. Grimes was good. I think Grimes deserves a run with the belt though. Jordan Devlin coming right into the championship scene is exciting. He's very, very talented.

I don't think I could watch this show every week any more though. All of the backstage vignettes were awful. Them breaking up Cora Jade and Roxanne after a week is ridiculous. The NXT Women's division was the best in the world a couple of years ago and a feud like that would have been a Takeover match with some excellent build and rightfully so.

Carmelo Hayes is always the standout on these shows for me. The Creeds are great wrestlers too. NXT overall right now is really a mixed bag.
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I get why they abandoned the original Triple H method. It was never going to be able to win over the hardcore audience away from AEW. I also understand why focusing on developmental guys with a main roster future makes sense. But there is definitely more of a middle ground than going all the way with green talent against green talent (most of the time).

There are plenty of veterans and player/coaches you can use. And you can get away with having top feuds between two wrestlers with years of experience in the business. The winning recipe could be pushing your Creeds and Cora Jades while also having matches between Timothy Thatcher and Oney Lorcan.
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I really wish more main roster guys would make the trip down more often. Natalya really seems like she would be an interesting player/coach down there. If you’re not using someone, let them work some stuff out down there.
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Old 07-19-2022, 09:50 AM   #409
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They toyed with that for a bit, then it just kinda fizzled out. Had Balor return, Samoa Joe, and AJ Styles at one point.




I've not tuned into NXT in ages, definitely not once since the "2.0" rebranding. My exposure to Bronn Breaker has been in clips from RAW.


It's more digestible watching once a month.
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They toyed with that for a bit, then it just kinda fizzled out. Had Balor return, Samoa Joe, and AJ Styles at one point.




I've not tuned into NXT in ages, definitely not once since the "2.0" rebranding. My exposure to Bronn Breaker has been in clips from RAW.


It's more digestible watching once a month.
Yeah, I was aware of the AJ Styles stuff. But I mean for more of a sustained run. Something closer to what Dolph Ziggler did recently, I guess.
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Old 07-27-2022, 11:41 PM   #411
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Saw clips of The Diamond Mine vs. The Family from NXT this week. Very clear they see big things in Julius Creed. Dude is a fucking freak. The whole DM looks really good. Would love to see an 8-Man Elimination Tag between those two sides at Takeover Returns.
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Julius Creed does a leap to the top rope superplex spot off his hot tag comeback. Dude’s a freak.
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The Creed Brothers, especially Brutus, really need to work on their striking though. Holy shit do some of the punches Brutus throw look horrible.

The athleticism on display in NXT is pretty amazing in general. If you’re a fan of guys tumbling and flipping around, the stuff you see is probably comparable to AEW. It’s not a high benchmark, but you could replace The Young Bucks with two NXT guys and it would be an improvement. The WWE going after A-grade college athletes and teaching them to do the indy stuff is probably going to edge out AEW in time.
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They toyed with that for a bit, then it just kinda fizzled out. Had Balor return, Samoa Joe, and AJ Styles at one point.




I've not tuned into NXT in ages, definitely not once since the "2.0" rebranding. My exposure to Bronn Breaker has been in clips from RAW.


It's more digestible watching once a month.
I can't even watch clips anymore. It's atrocious. I have a lot of problems with AEW, but theres at least a few things I enjoy about it every week. There is nothing here except Bron Breaker and even he's been dragged through the mud with all this Joe Gacy nonsense.
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Indeed. I will watch SummerSlam with my mother in law at her request. That's the only time I watch anymore.


I am kinda curious to see if/how things will slowly morph with HHH at the helm. I can only HOPE that things improve. A friend of mine hit me up outta nowhere asking to do wrasslin ppv parties again, and I deflated his excitement when I told him I don't watch anymore.
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I can't even watch clips anymore. It's atrocious. I have a lot of problems with AEW, but theres at least a few things I enjoy about it every week. There is nothing here except Bron Breaker and even he's been dragged through the mud with all this Joe Gacy nonsense.
100% agree, 2.0 is just weird.
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Giving 2.0 a chance this week too.

The women acts in NXT are green as hell. There’s so much awkward ass swivelling for no reason. It’s so fucking obnoxious and their ring style is so sloppy and too fast for them to keep up with. Toxic Attraction are too much. Katana Chance & Kayden Carter are obnoxious. Ivy Nile’s got something, but needs veterans to work with. Tatum Paxley cannot control her hair. The person who impressed me the most in the ring was Yulisa Leon. She’s fucking got something. Her partner, Valentina Feroz less so.

Triple H really needs to get in there and tighten this shit up. A lot of the women looked too rehearsed, too overwhelmed, were going too fast. It’d be the perfect time for a group of experienced women to come into NXT and try to “take it over.” They could all use some gimmick refinements. But he basically got it started with Paige, Emma and Summer Rae, etc.
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You can already tell the show is more disjointed than a Raw was under Triple H.
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I zoned out during Carmelo Hayes’ open challenge. I began thinking about a fly buzzing around the room. Not a good sign. Hayes and Williams were too rehearsed. Hayes reminds me of an X-Division act from TNA. Giovanni Vinci reminds me of what would happen if you gave Cesaro Chris Masters’ gimmick. It was kind of funny to see Nathan Frazer steal the slot from him.

The match itself was mindless flips and way too choreographed. This is the second match in a row that feels like it could be from AEW.

The crowd goes nuts for these people because they know them and are willing them forward. This was an issue going way back to the start of NXT. It gives a completely false read.

I will say that Trick Williams does his job well at ringside. He’ll probably pick up lots he can use from doing that.
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I think that Ben Buchanan’s gimmick is literally that he’s a virgin.

He’s got something there, but they need to stamp out that “I’m waiting to have sex” stuff.

The Dyad is fucking hilarious. I don’t know who the other two guys with Joe Gacy are, but they are perfect. They would fit on an episode of Always Sunny as incest siblings.
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JD McDonagh is a great performer. He reminds me of a better talking Finn Balor. He looks painfully small, but that seems to be his gimmick. There’s conviction in what he’s doing. The same with Bron Breakker. The drama around JD poking himself with a pen was accidentally comical though. Easily the best thing on the show so far though. They’ve kicked it up a notch.

McDonagh needs muscle in his corner. Trick Williams would actually be good. He could betray Hayes against Giovanni Vinci and then Hayes can move up and Vinci and McDonagh can have a loose alliance with Williams backing them up. Just throwing out ideas.
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Toxic Attraction are horrid. That’s a Vince/Bruce idea that needs to die. Mandy Rose is terrible in the ring. This match with Sarray sucks.

Mandy Rose should be a valet on the main roster for Alpha Academy. That would be a fine spot. She can work Raw house shows. Gigi Dolin can get a sexpot gimmick. Jacy Jayne can get something else. They all need to be refined so badly.
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Couldn’t finish the whole show, eh?
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Not yet. Got interrupted. It is exhausting. NXT needs a major overhaul. Raw is good so far, but looooong. I’m watching them without ads too.
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Did you switch to NXT halfway through Raw?
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Even if NXT sees the same changes that Raw is getting, it will take a lot longer for it to improve, due to the inexperience of its roster.
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There’s no reason they can’t switch in some more experienced talent. Young guys constantly facing young guys isn’t as exciting. And the moves are good. I’m not someone who really judges on that. It’s more that their sequences are so rehearsed. It’s not like they need to run more drills. They need to get better at organically working and making things look authentic.
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Mandy Rose is just…not compelling in the ring. She kinda looks like Trish Stratus at times, but she just isn’t dynamic. She should lose the belt to Zoey Stark and then move into a different role. I’d consider making her the valet of Alpha Academy, but you could split Toxic Attraction in NXT and try and have them feud.

The Creed Brothers are fucking great. Julius in particular gives me top star vibes. There’s something John Cena about him, except he’s got that amateur background. I can see him being a World Champion in WWE. Brutus Creed has got something too, but it’s more “character-based.” I can see him and Damon Kemp becoming a legendary team while their brothers are pushed more as singles. But they’ll all have great careers (I hope).

Can we please get Timothy Thatcher & Hideki Suzuki in to work with these teams?
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Duke Hudson has something. Wade Barrett said he was a future World Champion. You can see where he plucks that from. He does some “little things” right.

Axiom? Getting Sin Cara “please cheer for me” vibes. We’ll see how that goes.
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I really like Ben Buchanan. I don’t like the jorts, but he’s got something and is young as hell.

Joe Gacy is like if you got Kevin Owens and Bray Wyatt and smooshed them together with a Jehovah’s Witness gimmick. He’s not bad, but he reminds me too much of other people. He could legitimately be on the main roster as Kevin’s annoying brother.

I don’t know anything about who else is in The Dyad, but holy fuck are they amazing. Highlight of the night so far, outside Julius Creed’s wrestling has been a fan yelling “Gacy likes pineapple on pizza” after Gacy cuts his post-match promo into the camera and stares menacingly.
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Oh, The Dyad are James Drake & Zack Gibson. It’s kind of spooky how they’ve disappeared into this thing. Drake & Gibson were kind of spot monkeys when I saw them last, so I’m glad to see them develop this side, although it does seem like a dramatic change.
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This show is STILL going. Holy fuck.
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Do not care about Cora Jade or Roxanne Perez at all. Nor the Tony D’Angelo Family vs. Santos Escobar people. They’re not horrible — it’s just…ugh. Too many goofs not wearing wrestling gear.
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Holy shit, the Santos Escobar/Tony D’Angelo phone call just happened. Fucking horrible.

Alba Fyre is good. She carried Lash Legend here, who is a charisma vacuum. Every time I see someone with the fire motif, it makes me realize how much they protected that with Kane and reminds me of simpler times. But Alba could be part of a revamped Women’s Division alongside Yulise Leon.
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Solo Sikoa and Von Wagner are good, but the show is just so long and not high level enough to support them.
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I just want Meiko to get used outside of nxt uk. I don't care if its on nxt or main roster at this point.
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I’m not a fan of these women’s tag belts. It’s just so much clutter and it forces too many personalities into these boxes no one really cares about. If you’ve got a tag match people care about? Fine. Then you’ve got four different challengers coming out of it.
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I think the lack of interest in NXT is exemplified by the complete non reaction Io Shirai got on her entrance on Raw. 5 years ago, if a top NXT talent made their Raw debut, they'd get a pretty huge pop.
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