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Old 09-08-2022, 05:16 PM   #4361
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Over a million again for Dynamite I see.

Listened to Jerichos podcast with the Wrestlenomics guy the other day, it was an interesting listen that explained a little more how some of this stuff works. ,Whats relevant and whats not, a little about the impact of streaming etc.

Jerichos wrestling related podcasts are normally solid but this was pretty interesting in general terms.
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Old 09-08-2022, 05:28 PM   #4362
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Dude you didn’t need to listen to Jericho and some no-name marks from Wrestlenomics. Noid’s been doing pretty much weekly breakdowns of what advertisers and tv execs look for right here on TPDub.
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Old 09-08-2022, 05:52 PM   #4363
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What were Thurston’s sources? Other than “my best friend works for AEW and I’m on an AEW wrestler’s podcast?” A quick Google search will tell you everything you need to know about modern opinions on the demo.

-Cable is dying.

-Women are important.

-Wrestling is perceived as trashy.

-Advertisers are more aware of ethnicity, sexuality and other demographic factors.

-Economic and cultural factors have affected which demos are most desirable.

-AEW’s average fan is likely to be >34.

What am I wrong about?
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Old 09-08-2022, 06:14 PM   #4364
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Wow only 1.035 million. I thought it would have been much higher considering all the buzz.
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Dude you didn’t need to listen to Jericho and some no-name marks from Wrestlenomics. Noid’s been doing pretty much weekly breakdowns of what advertisers and tv execs look for right here on TPDub.
If I wanted to get info from an internet dream booker I would follow TK on twitter

Seriously though it was interesting just to hear it laid out as someone who really doesnt care to much about ratings or dug too deep into it, explaining how demos work and why they are valued over a total number was interesting for example.
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Wow only 1.035 million. I thought it would have been much higher considering all the buzz.
Holy shit, is that all it was?! And it dropped massively throughout the show again. I wonder if that’s because the show sucks or the 49 yr old audience fell into a cheese coma and leant on the remote forcing an irreversible channel change?
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Old 09-09-2022, 08:41 AM   #4367
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What were Thurston’s sources? Other than “my best friend works for AEW and I’m on an AEW wrestler’s podcast?” A quick Google search will tell you everything you need to know about modern opinions on the demo.

-Cable is dying.

-Women are important.

-Wrestling is perceived as trashy.

-Advertisers are more aware of ethnicity, sexuality and other demographic factors.

-Economic and cultural factors have affected which demos are most desirable.

-AEW’s average fan is likely to be >34.

What am I wrong about?

A Google search on opinion will yield whatever opinion you tell it to search. Also, being a nerd, Google's index only accounts for roughly 4% of the internet's traffic, a farcry from any majority.
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Old 09-09-2022, 08:41 AM   #4368
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Just saying that Google =/= a reliable source.
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Dunning-Kruger personified. It takes some serious stupidity to believe that reading Google search results will give you remotely equivalent (let alone superior) knowledge or expertise as people who are and have actually worked for decades in the field you're discussing.
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A Google search on opinion will yield whatever opinion you tell it to search. Also, being a nerd, Google's index only accounts for roughly 4% of the internet's traffic, a farcry from any majority.
You don’t need to stay on Google, lol. A search engine can be used to find information. It’s not really relevant that 91% of internet traffic is porn.

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Just saying that Google =/= a reliable source.
So use Google to find the reliable sources. The point is you don’t need to go deep to work this shit out.

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Dunning-Kruger personified. It takes some serious stupidity to believe that reading Google search results will give you remotely equivalent (let alone superior) knowledge or expertise as people who are and have actually worked for decades in the field you're discussing.
Lol, every single legal tidbit you’ve stirred up has been from Google. Because you’re fake. You’re also the moron who called someone a cocksucker because they didn’t immediately condemn NXT. Your opinion on what is reasonable has long been disqualified.

And yep, Chris Jericho = media analyst. Go back to the shadows because AEW sucks and not even you can deny it anymore.
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Old 09-09-2022, 01:21 PM   #4371
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No one actually disagreeing with my points either.
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RAW rating. Woof.
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Raw only getting 1.7 million against Monday Night Football is a direct shot at Dynamite struggling to even get 1 million against Real Housewives
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Yeah, looks like Football season will be tough for raw

1.71 is down from the 2 million of HHH's first month
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1.71 is down from the 2 million of HHH's first month
Down 300,000 is rough, they lost the entire Rampage audience
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AEW tends to have bad weeks when WWE has bad weeks. They’re off the PPV bump and any (if any) interest from the controversy. It was a fair guess that their number would already be down, but it is going to be interesting to see what their number is.
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All trash talk aside, that is a bizarrely good number. I think everyone had it dropping back under a million after last week’s chaos bump.
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Yeah, it is. I wonder why it had such a big bump? Thought for sure it'd either be the same or a touch lower after the hype died down from last week.
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Like if you told me that was the number for next week I wouldn't have been shocked. They'll do a good number then too. It'll be interesting to see if it goes back down after that though.
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I wanna jokingly say “MJF, man…”

But also… MJF, man…?
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Old 09-15-2022, 06:17 PM   #4388
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Could be people banding together to support the company during a hard time?
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Old 09-15-2022, 06:21 PM   #4389
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Alright. “All trash talk aside” aside…

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AEW tends to have bad weeks when WWE has bad weeks. They’re off the PPV bump and any (if any) interest from the controversy. It was a fair guess that their number would already be down, but it is going to be interesting to see what their number is.
How is Noid gonna spin this into shit?
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Sounds like after a year of Phil driving people away, the real fans are coming back now that his 0-2 embarrassing ass is gone!
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Sounds like after a year of Phil driving people away, the real fans are coming back now that his 0-2 embarrassing ass is gone!
0-1-1*
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:15 PM   #4392
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I wanna jokingly say “MJF, man…”

But also… MJF, man…?
I don't think he can get the credit here as much as I'd love to give it to him. If he was the driving force then wouldn't you have expected the ratings bump to come last week for his return to Dynamite after winning the chip? ESPECIALLY with the drama to boost last weeks ep too.
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:26 PM   #4393
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1. Weed is NOT a performing enhancing drug
2. He got legitimately tickled in the Octagon

He is more 0-2 than any fighter ever.
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:34 PM   #4394
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Apparently the quarter hour ratings never even dropped below a million. Barely below 1.1 million.
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Surprisingly not under 1 million. 1.175 is almost 1.2 million, which is almost 2.3 million.
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How is Noid gonna spin this into shit?
Straw man the shit out of it and ignore your previous post (and then probably bury all the evidence in a shitpost frenzy). A shocking method. I hope everyone bet against the odds.
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1. Weed is NOT a performing enhancing drug
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He is more 0-2 than any fighter ever.
No, he's actually 0-1-1. Record books don't lie, fella
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No, he's actually 0-1-1. Record books don't lie, fella
I saw the fight, that record book is lying
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No, he's actually 0-1-1. Record books don't lie, fella
thats false. His record officially is 0-1. The 2nd fight was retroactively ruled a no contest.

That doesnt go on the books as a draw its stricken. Dana ruled to over turn the unanimous decision officially on the grounds of unsportsmanlike conduct.

The reasoning was Jackson humiliated punk to such an extreme by choosing not to finish punk on multiple occasions and instead dragging the fight out, with mockery like tickling him, that the fight on paper never occured and barred Mike Jackson from the UFC for life.

Jackson argued that is was a mercy. He claims had he gone in the for the KO punks inability to protect himself would have led to punk taking severe damage possibly CTE. Despite Jacksons kindness Punk was still hospitalizated after the fight.
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