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Old 09-02-2018, 09:41 PM   #44921
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If they use an open challenge angle for Roman they are just doing it because that was the point where people stopped die hard hating Cena because he started having great matches ever week on tv. Not a bad plan if they can pull off quality matches, Roman is fully capable of that.
Problem is they already tried this tactic before with Reigns and the end result was them not changing their booking of him afterwards.

All this prestige building and "work horse" stuff is just going to get tossed away once WWE wants to move on to the next big thing for Reigns. Just like they did with the IC belt for Reigns and US belt with Cena both times.
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Old 09-02-2018, 10:40 PM   #44922
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Old 09-03-2018, 02:20 AM   #44923
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I recognize that WWE lists are going to be biased, but holy fucking shit
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Old 09-03-2018, 04:18 AM   #44924
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Old 09-03-2018, 04:19 AM   #44925
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Old 09-03-2018, 04:24 AM   #44926
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WWE teasing another match for Evolution contributing its trend towards "meh" and/or train wreck status for match quality.




Melina was good compared to the majority of Divas era wrestlers but Naomi is not a good fit. Naomi isn't terrible but she isn't that good either in the ring.


Meanwhile a rumored match going around the net involves Taker's wife having a singles match against:
SPOILER: show
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Old 09-03-2018, 04:30 AM   #44927
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What a hodge podge.
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Old 09-03-2018, 05:20 AM   #44928
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Fucking train wreck.
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:36 AM   #44929
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WWE teasing another match for Evolution contributing its trend towards "meh" and/or train wreck status for match quality.

Melina was good compared to the majority of Divas era wrestlers but Naomi is not a good fit. Naomi isn't terrible but she isn't that good either in the ring.


Meanwhile a rumored match going around the net involves Taker's wife having a singles match against:
SPOILER: show
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:36 AM   #44930
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I get the feeling I'm going to be using that image a lot from now until the PPV.
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:38 AM   #44931
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I'm sure even though a lot of us aren't really into the idea of most of the matches, I get the feeling most of us are going to watch the PPV anyway.
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I recognize that WWE lists are going to be biased, but holy fucking shit
Thank you for giving me a good laugh.

I really needed it today.
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Old 09-03-2018, 08:36 AM   #44933
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There is a very specific type of fan that is interested in the concept of the Evolution PPV. These matches seem completely tone-deaf to that fan's taste. I will say that it is probably going to be more interesting to see how the crowd reacts to Ruby Riott vs. Kelly Kelly than a decently booked show.
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Old 09-03-2018, 09:53 AM   #44934
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Lol Undisputed Era at 10. This is about as bad a WWE list as they've ever posted.
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:00 AM   #44935
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The New Day ahead of the hart foundation and the Shield #1. Good god.
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:07 AM   #44936
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It's funny that the three stables that should be considered greatest of all time both had prolonged runs that ruined the initial genius of their booking. The Horsemen, NWO and DX. I think that the Shield takes the cake as far as match quality though. That first year or so when they were having magic 6 man's all over the place was insane. I wouldn't put them in the top 3 but I'd have them in my top 10. I don't consider The Freebirds and New Day a "faction".
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:13 AM   #44937
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To me a faction is 4 or more people.
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Old 09-03-2018, 12:16 PM   #44938
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I don't even know how the Nexus made that list. The group started off hot but they were killed dead within two months. They never recovered after being Super Cena'd at SummerSlam.
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Old 09-03-2018, 12:26 PM   #44939
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Much as I loved the initial Nexus angle though, if you really break down the group with some objectivity, it was probably never going to succeed long-term. Wade Barrett and Skip Sheffield were the only two guys in that group who had any real chance to achieve stardom in that group, and the latter shattered his ankle two months in.

I've LOVED Heath Slater since pretty much 2012, once he dedicated himself to becoming a comedy dude, he's gold. But he looked fucking ridiculous having to act all serious as a heel.

Darren Young was another guy who looked ridiculous trying to act serious, and he wasn't all that good in the ring to boot.

Justin Gabriel was cool, but at his size there was only so far he was going to go. Nowadays there are dozens of guys who can do what he does better than him.

Michael Tarver at least had an imposing look, but could've never been anything more than a bodyguard type.

David Otunga is the double whammy - looked absurd playing a serious heel and also one of the worst wrestlers I've ever seen.
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I'm shocked they left the Corporation off the list
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It's actually kind of a shock to me that Ryback was allowed to wear a singlet. I'm 100% certain Vince has jacked off to a picture of Skip Sheffield.
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Hell, I'd put Camp Cornette in over at least two of those listed
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To me a faction is 4 or more people.
Same, I don't see New Day and The Shield as a faction.
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To me a faction is 4 or more people.
I generally agree but I consider Shield a faction where as I don't with The Freebirds and The New Day. Reason I think that way is because they weren't really focused as a tag team but as a trio.

For me my all time stables...

10. Los Boriquas
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Old 09-03-2018, 02:16 PM   #44948
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Yeah they're just six man tag teams.
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Old 09-03-2018, 03:10 PM   #44949
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I generally agree but I consider Shield a faction where as I don't with The Freebirds and The New Day. Reason I think that way is because they weren't really focused as a tag team but as a trio.

For me my all time stables...

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The Freebirds were pretty much focused as a trio feuding with David, Kevin and Kerry Von Erich, who if they are including the Freebirds, than its ridiculous not to have the Von Erich's too
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Old 09-03-2018, 03:27 PM   #44950
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The New Day ahead of the hart foundation and the Shield #1. Good god.
I don't think the New Day being ahead of the Hart Foundation is weird at all. They're probably the only modern faction that deserves to be on the list

They've had a much bigger impact than the Hart Foundation, and overall, their in ring work is better.
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Old 09-03-2018, 04:12 PM   #44951
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I don't think the New Day being ahead of the Hart Foundation is weird at all. They're probably the only modern faction that deserves to be on the list

They've had a much bigger impact than the Hart Foundation, and overall, their in ring work is better.
for shame.
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Old 09-03-2018, 05:05 PM   #44952
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I don't think the New Day being ahead of the Hart Foundation is weird at all. They're probably the only modern faction that deserves to be on the list

They've had a much bigger impact than the Hart Foundation, and overall, their in ring work is better.

hard to argue this. I remember when the three of them were just beginning and between the choir singing their theme song and the way they portrayed themselves in their entrance and how they were booked, I never thought in a million years they would be in the position they are today
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:04 PM   #44953
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The Freebirds were pretty much focused as a trio feuding with David, Kevin and Kerry Von Erich, who if they are including the Freebirds, than its ridiculous not to have the Von Erich's too
As much as I love to go back and enjoy rasslin' history World Class is tough for me, at least what's on The Network. I've never really gotten into Texas Rasslin so my exposure to The Birds and the Von Erich's is slightly more than introductory.
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:38 PM   #44954
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Only post-Attitude Era group I'd keep on that factions list would be Evolution.

Undisputed Era have been great in NXT but means nothing since they haven't been hit with main roster Creative treatment.

Nexus started off hot but fizzled really quickly as a group. Same for New Nexus and Corre never living up to their potential as factions.

New Day shouldn't belong since they are just a tag team albeit with 3 guys. Same could be said of the Freebirds.

The Shield shouldn't count similar to New Day and Freebirds due to them lacking numbers. Plus their first run as a group was really short even though it was also very good overall.
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:50 PM   #44955
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Old 09-03-2018, 08:22 PM   #44956
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I think it's fair to say Roman counts as two whole men or at least a man and a big dog. Right?
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Holy fucking shit @ that list. lol
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If that list were made a couple years ago, I have no doubt The League of Nations would have been top 5.
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If it were made in 2010, The Nexus would have been the clear #1.
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