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Old 09-14-2018, 03:14 AM   #45121
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:29 AM   #45122
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I got back into it when I saw Mankind and Undertaker fight in a Boiler Room Brawl and Paul Bearer turned on Taker.

Then I saw Bret/Austin at WM13 and was really hooked


We have a couple of important things in common to do with our love of wrestling timeline-wise. I feel a bit more connected to you and the history now.
The Mankind/Taker feud was something I saw a bit of in Canada and it helped me talk my dad into getting Sky(cable) TV.
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:30 AM   #45123
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:34 AM   #45124
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Old 09-14-2018, 05:24 AM   #45125
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Just thinking about Cesaro, someone who I love and have often felt should've gone further than he has before realizing he's actually right where he should be.

I think he's an absolutely world class performer but he's never had that intangible, the innate charisma and likeability that would have made him a truly top star.

One of the problems he has is that his best character work is done when he's a sort of smug, cocky, pretentious foreign star who knows exactly how good he is...but his best in-ring work is done when he's a fiery comeback babyface. So he's either a heel with a toned down style that's sort of boring or he's a face with no personality, so he never gets that top-level crowd reaction

I think he's found his niche in WWE as a tag performer, he's absolutely the best babyface hot tag house-on-fire in the business and when he's a heel, the current style of tag team wrestling helps him get away with being a bit more exciting in the ring. It's really the perfect spot for him.
I really love Cesaro -- I think he's brilliant in the ring, and he has the sort of "naturalistic charisma" I really like. It's not extroverted and it's not "innate." He just seems like a cool dude that is very confident and likable in life. That's without knowing the guy, of course. But that's not the charisma that gets you places in WWE.

They say they tried with him. I thought putting RVD into his program with Jack Swagger was a mistake. Just ride Cesaro's crowds reactions and let Cesaro outclass his former partner. I always thought Sheamus would have been a good opponent in Chicago (which is what they did), because Sheamus was a babyface (Cesaro was still a heel, just one with appeal to smart crowds) and you could have had Cesaro outclass him to a great pop. I was not really in on breaking up The Shield, so I think Money in the Bank should have gone to him.

What happened was that the Triple Threat distracted from Cesaro, they had to put Sheamus over Cesaro because he won the US Title inexplicably, and Seth was getting MITB. So Cesaro, this apparent world class competitor, lost a lot of steam from the booking too. It didn't help that Heyman was clearly getting notes that changed the directions of his promos from "Cesaro is going to be the guy" to "Cesaro is going to be a guy" to "Brock Lesnar, Brock Lesnar, Brock Lesnar." Ass.

So while there are clearly flaws with Cesaro's personality game, I don't think the booking helped him. They don't book to cover up weaknesses in WWE, and they don't book to fostered strengths either. As a result he has ended up valuable, but not someone that is easy to get enthused about.

Of course, he will probably get a push in about 5 years randomly and after everyone has totally believed there was any chance of it happening.
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Old 09-14-2018, 05:25 AM   #45126
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So apparently The Bellas are on both shows. Is there an explanation for that?
Remember last time how the brand split stopped having any rules or reason? It's that again.

The thing with this shit is that people who are genuinely engaged with the product are probably going to ask this sort of question. "Is Nikki a Raw girl or a SmackDown girl?" Because on the surface, they actually believe the brands matter, because that is what they were told. So there are probably a bunch of earnest people out there genuinely confused as to what the fuck is going on and having that engagement challenged. It's bad television filled with continuity errors and loose ends that never go explained. They actively make this hard for anyone who honestly wants to give them a go.

It might seem like a little thing, but shit like that matters. When you make rules, you need to follow them, or at least know how to break them. WWE does none of this. And they expect to win a fucking Emmy?
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Old 09-14-2018, 09:56 AM   #45127
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:34 AM   #45128
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Remember last time how the brand split stopped having any rules or reason? It's that again.

The thing with this shit is that people who are genuinely engaged with the product are probably going to ask this sort of question. "Is Nikki a Raw girl or a SmackDown girl?" Because on the surface, they actually believe the brands matter, because that is what they were told. So there are probably a bunch of earnest people out there genuinely confused as to what the fuck is going on and having that engagement challenged. It's bad television filled with continuity errors and loose ends that never go explained. They actively make this hard for anyone who honestly wants to give them a go.

It might seem like a little thing, but shit like that matters. When you make rules, you need to follow them, or at least know how to break them. WWE does none of this. And they expect to win a fucking Emmy?
i don't see how someone can talk so much about about something they don't even watch. just giant blocks of pointless text to pass by.
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:42 PM   #45129
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According to the Observer, both Pentagon Jr and Fenix are now expected to not be leaving the indies for the WWE till at least 2020.

Before they were rumored to be bolting next year to the WWE but now it seems they are starting to book indie dates again for 2019 after previously being non-committal towards them. MLW already locked them up for all their 2019 events while the situation in Mexico is very much in their favor for staying.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:43 PM   #45130
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i don't see how someone can talk so much about about something they don't even watch. just giant blocks of pointless text to pass by.
Well you clearly read that one. Pick a lane.
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Old 09-15-2018, 05:12 AM   #45131
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I'm just finding out about this now, but apparently the intro to Davari's theme in TNA was a plane crashing.



Jesus fucking christ, TNA.
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Old 09-15-2018, 06:03 AM   #45132
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According to the Observer, both Pentagon Jr and Fenix are now expected to not be leaving the indies for the WWE till at least 2020.

Before they were rumored to be bolting next year to the WWE but now it seems they are starting to book indie dates again for 2019 after previously being non-committal towards them. MLW already locked them up for all their 2019 events while the situation in Mexico is very much in their favor for staying.

These rumors have been giving me anxiety. They need to stay away.
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:51 AM   #45133
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I'm just finding out about this now, but apparently the intro to Davari's theme in TNA was a plane crashing.



Jesus fucking christ, TNA.
I have no recollection of this. What the fuck that's awful.
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:51 AM   #45134
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Penta and Fenix would be dumb as fuck if they went to WWE.
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Well you clearly read that one. Pick a lane.
yes, i read it and commented on it. you got me.

it helped confirm that you write pointless blocks of texts.
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yes, i read it and commented on it. you got me.

it helped confirm that you write pointless blocks of texts.
Don't travel the dark path my man. Noid's shenanigans know no bounds.
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but i haven't even picked a lane yet.

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but i haven't even picked a lane yet.

dealer's choice
lol. Actually I think you're equipped for Noid's idiocy. But be warned, he triggers easily. People bust his balls about his ramblings all the time and he just deflects because he lacks the ability to be even moderately self-reflective.
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Old 09-15-2018, 04:10 PM   #45143
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The WWE are showing a live stream of the cell being constructed for tomorrow and the cell is now red.

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205 Live got bumped again from its time slot on the WWE Network.

Similar to last time, the new season of Mixed Match Challenge is taking 205 Live's regular spot but unlike last time, new episodes of 205 Live will now air before NXT on Wednesdays.

Being rumored this might also be a permanent change and not just lasting till the end of MMC season 2.
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205 Live got bumped again from its time slot on the WWE Network.

Similar to last time, the new season of Mixed Match Challenge is taking 205 Live's regular spot but unlike last time, new episodes of 205 Live will now air before NXT on Wednesdays.

Being rumored this might also be a permanent change and not just lasting till the end of MMC season 2.
how are they going to do it live if they are going to do it wed, they need to take the live out of it and tape it like they do main event.
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Old 09-15-2018, 07:19 PM   #45151
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If it’s not going live they should record it before SmackDown to warm the crowd up, rather than having a burned out crowd post SDL
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The WWE are showing a live stream of the cell being constructed for tomorrow and the cell is now red.

Is it me or does it look smaller in terms of height? Doesn't look nearly as tall as the one Shane went flying off a while back, and that's without the ring being there for scale.
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:19 PM   #45153
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Height seems right to me.... I read online it was read a few minutes ago and thought I would hate it, but it doesn't look too bad....
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yeah with half the talent becoming managers I do not see the show lasting much longer.
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Old 09-16-2018, 11:50 AM   #45155
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In what should is no shock but also tragic news, Vince is said to be the one in charge of the Evolution PPV.

Put your money on the blondes.
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Old 09-16-2018, 02:35 PM   #45156
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I finally got around to doing my now usual "Sunday Thing" of watching Raw & SmackDown from 2002.

I was supposed to be watching Judgement Day 2002 today but I didn't have time to watch Raw & SmackDown last Sunday so I watched them today instead and will watch Judgement Day on Saturday so I can be all caught up for next Sunday.

There wasn't really much to point out or say about the two shows other than they were quite enjoyable.

I noticed a big difference in the episode of Raw I watched where Booker T was announced at the new member of The nWo and what Raw is like now, in that in the episode of Raw I watched, the audience was always being given a reason to stay and watch, be it title defenses, appearances from big names or the main one, who the new member of The nWo would be.

All the way through the show the audience were being teased with this reveal of who it could be and through the work of some good promos, that you could tell came straight from the minds of the wrestlers themselves, the audience at home were always being told to stay and watch the show.

Now, the audience get nothing like this and the WWE's reason nearly every week to watch Raw these days is basically them saying "Hey guys, Roman Reigns is on the show tonight and he's going to beat up all the bad guys, sometimes all at once!".

Raw doesn't even have regular title defenses/changes like they used to from around 2002.

Anyway, before this evolves into a post I would usually reply to Noid with, the usual bullet points of random thoughts:

Raw:

• I'm actually quite surprised that Shawn Stasiak had the amount of TV appearances that he did. I've always remembered him being in the WWE and I've always actually kinda liked him, but I can't really remember him appearing on Raw the amount of times he actually did.

This episode of Raw even show fans with Stasiak signs. Something that actually made me say "wow" to myself, as I couldn't remember seeing any Stasiak signs when I first watched Raw around that time as a kid.

I liked his little crazy quirks he used to do, like his twitching/face pulling that he was doing during his backstage segment with Eddie Guerrero where Guerrero asked him if he's on drugs. It's the little things like that that I didn't really pick up on as a kid. I remember how he use to talk and I always liked that but it's the little things like the twitching/face pulling that really helped and added to the gimmick.

• This Raw was the debut of the "A Day In The Life Of Tommy Dreamer" vignettes and those are vignettes I remember extremely vividly.

I loved them and I still do.

• It's probably because I was a kid at the time but I didn't realise how good Steven Richards looked back then. He looked to be in great shape and it's probably the best I've seen him look.

• Finally from Raw, here's a random SpongeBob sighting from the show.



SmackDown:

• Some random French-Canadian midget came bursting out of a cupboard brandishing a camera, only to tell Stacy Keibler that he was "here with Panasonic's new e-Wear AV Recorder". He kept emphasising the letter "E" and appeared and then disappeared yelling "EEEEEEEEEEEEE!" so I'm assuming he was a character from Panasonic's adverts for the device and that was his catchphrase or whatever?



That was obviously edited out when it was broadcast over here in the UK because it's an advertisement but I didn't know that something like that actually existed, so this was the first time I had ever seen it and I just watched it in complete bemusement.

• There was an almost ten minutes of constant cheering for Hogan as he stood in the ring, which when it ended, Hogan called the crowd "awesome" and I think that if that happened today, the crowd would have broken out into a five minute "We Are Awesome" chant.

• Finally, a sign during Rico's entrance that is one of many wrestling signs showing bad grammar:



(Just like last time, it's the difference between "Your" and "You're" that these sign makers seem to have a problem with)
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In what should is no shock but also tragic news, Vince is said to be the one in charge of the Evolution PPV.

Put your money on the blondes.
That would explain a lot about the direction and rumors for the card.
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It really is.

I'm still trying to figure out why the official poster has a tiny smiley face on Braun Strowman's right arm.
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It looks like it's not supposed to be there and if it isn't, then you would think they would have removed it.
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