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Old 12-21-2013, 02:37 AM   #441
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not as the swagger soaring eagle, but as Kerwin White
No. He HAS to be the Soaring Eagle.
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Old 12-21-2013, 02:47 AM   #442
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Old 12-21-2013, 02:56 AM   #443
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Bob Barnett's Hardcore Overload comp

-really interesting interview with Art Barr discussing a possible future run in ECW

Him and Eddy would've been amazing in ECW had Art lived.



1)Octagon/El Hijo Del Santo –vs- Art Barr/Eddy Guerrero (Clips from the “When Worlds Collide” AAA PPV)
Interview: Art Barr (A “shoot” interview from the locker room after Art & Eddy lost their Hair –vs- Mask match at the PPV. This turns out to be Barr’s final video interview as he would die soon afterwards.)
Interview: Vampiro (Another shoot, recorded just a few days after Art Barr’s death. Vampiro reflects on his lost friend.)
2)Sabu/Taz –vs- Joe Malenko/Dean Malenko (Clips from the 12/19/94 ECW Arena Show. 911, The Pitbulls & Public Enemy all get involved. Paul E. Dangerously is put through a table by the PE.)
3)Cactus Jack/Kevin Sullivan –vs- The Public Enemy (More footage from 12/19/94. This is a WILD brawl that sees Sullivan turn on Cactus. Sabu & Taz show up and Sabu gets revenge for Paul E. by Legdropping Johnny Grunge through a table. ****)
More assorted footage from AAA’s “When Worlds Collide”. Includes: Rey Misterio Jr. in action…Perro Aguyo blading…and Eddy Guerrero jawing with fans.
4)Al Snow –vs- Bobby Bradley (Clips)
5)Chris Benoit –vs- 2 Cold Scorpio (Great 4 star + indie match!)
Clip of Doink #11
6)“Dirty White Boy” Tony Anthony –vs- Scotty Flamingo (Clips – SMW – Interesting as this is just before Scotty would take on the Raven gimmick. Here he’s still doing a comedy role. Ref Mark Cutis showcases more offense than DWB, hiptossing Flamingo and dropkicking Jim Cornette. Funny stuff.)
7)Al Snow –vs- Devon Storm (Clips – They brawl up into the bleachers)
8)Tracy Smothers –vs- Chris Candido (SMW - Tammy Fytch is with Chris and looks great. Both guys work hard in front of the small Philly crowd.)
9)The Rock N’ Roll Express –vs- The Gangstas (Clips – SMW)
Interview: Fred The Elephant Boy…followed by clips of Fred winning a match (?) and becoming “ECW Bingo Champion”
10)The Bad Breed –vs- The Pitbulls (Clips – ECW)
911 & Paul E. Dangerously destroy ring announcer Bob Artese (ECW)
Brief clip of Sandman & Woman (“Woman Oh Woman, would you Marry me THEN!!”) (ECW)
Clip of Brian Pillman (who was subbing for Steve Austin) squaring off with Ron Simmons (ECW)
Clip of Shane Douglas beating up Sensational Sherri (ECW)
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Old 12-21-2013, 03:40 AM   #444
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I MUST watch that.

Art Barr seemed to get the business. I actually don't know the story behind him and Eddie Guerrero, or who was really the brains behind their amazing gimmick in Mexico, but they seemed to just get professional wrestling.

On the topic of the Guerreros, I could actually see Chavo returning as Kerwin White. The gimmick was sort of stuck on Heat most of the time, but it was just really starting when Eddie died and they figured it best to abandon it. But Chavo was never the guy they were going to have win the 2006 Royal Rumble anyway.

That being said, I'd like it if Vickie Guerrero brought Chavo back and have him some opportunities. The story can be that Chavo left the WWE to get some extra training and come back better than ever. The WWE like having top Hispanic stars, so while they are trying to build Sin Cara, Kalisto and/or Ricardo Rodriguez, or whatever, you can see how Chavo goes as "Hey! That guy's back! Wow, he's gotten really good!" I'm not saying put the World Title on him, or anything, but having him wrestle Alberto Del Rio at two PPVs wouldn't be too much of a stretch.
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Old 12-21-2013, 03:46 AM   #445
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Old 12-21-2013, 03:57 AM   #446
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One of the big issues with Art was that he also seemed to GET underaged girls. That's one of the things that killed his run as the Juicer in WCW. Well, that and he was the Juicer.
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Old 12-21-2013, 04:00 AM   #448
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I know there isn't much support for independent wrestling around these parts, but I just found out today that Johnny Gargano has been the Open the Freedom Gate Champion in Dragon Gate USA (booked by Gabe Sapolsky who booked Ring of Honor back when it was everybody's darling) for like two years. I haven't followed the promotion or anything, but I think that's kind of cool. Long title reigns like that aren't really done these days, and it must get tempting as a booker to switch the title to a new fresh face to keep things interesting. I admire what I believe Gabe is trying to do, and that's create a buzz for Gargano and for the eventual title change, while also giving fans of professional wrestling who like long title reigns exactly what they want.
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Old 12-21-2013, 04:01 AM   #449
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One of the big issues with Art was that he also seemed to GET underaged girls. That's one of the things that killed his run as the Juicer in WCW. Well, that and he was the Juicer.
Oh, well that's not okay. Everyone knows you need to be a musician to get away with the young girls thing.
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Old 12-21-2013, 04:01 AM   #450
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Damn it, now Kerwin White's theme is stuck in my head.
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Old 12-21-2013, 10:46 AM   #451
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All 3 of the Shield were on the Onnit podcast, host was completely baffled by the concept of a deathmatch and why the hell Ambrose would do those, while Reigns was being magnificent.
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Old 12-21-2013, 11:15 AM   #452
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I completely missed a mini Drew face run?
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Old 12-21-2013, 11:27 AM   #453
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I had no clue Robbie Brookside worked for the WWE now...
"works" is probably a bit strong, I believe he has Drew McDonald's old role, namely the guy they go to to recommend guys from over here for tryouts/dark matches etc during the UK/European tours. He'll have a business card (which shockingly consists of the WWE logo and a name) tell guys he'll be putting them forward for a tryout etc. No idea if he gets paid anything for it. His connections means his school is pretty much "the place" to go really if you have any sense for guys looking to train.
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Old 12-21-2013, 12:19 PM   #454
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I completely missed a mini Drew face run?
I think he was mainly appearing in NXT at the time and he was getting cheered there because he was feuding with Bo Dallas. Apparently this match happened the same week 3MB formed on Smackdown, so in canon it was a random one night only face turn I guess.
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I think he was mainly appearing in NXT at the time and he was getting cheered there because he was feuding with Bo Dallas. Apparently this match happened the same week 3MB formed on Smackdown, so in canon it was a random one night only face turn I guess.
Like a wise man once said, "you've gotta move with the movement or it's moving without you"
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such a great angle here with Butch Reed turning face

General Skandor Akbar made Buddy Landel a member of Devastation Incorporated on the basis he could get Butch Reed to join.

Reed however wanted no part of the nefarious Akbar and turns against Landel and Akbar
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From memory, Drew just randomly worked that match as a face. It was also taped the same week as 3MB formed on SmackDown.
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"works" is probably a bit strong, I believe he has Drew McDonald's old role, namely the guy they go to to recommend guys from over here for tryouts/dark matches etc during the UK/European tours. He'll have a business card (which shockingly consists of the WWE logo and a name) tell guys he'll be putting them forward for a tryout etc. No idea if he gets paid anything for it. His connections means his school is pretty much "the place" to go really if you have any sense for guys looking to train.
I think I botched my comment in the rep I sent you, but thanks for that. Cool info.
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Zack Ryder & Curt Hawkins would make great NXT Tag Team Champions. Kind of want to see them feud with The Ascension.
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I've heard a little bit of a buzz about New Japan Pro Wrestling lately. Apparently they've been putting on good shows and the like. Anyone else follow them? If I were to try and get into them, what would be the best way to go about it? Here is the card for their upcoming show:

* Hiroyoshi Tenzan, Tomoaki Honma, Captain New Japan & Bushi vs. Tiger Mask Jushin Liger, Manabu Nakanishi, Super Strong Machine


* Hirooki Goto vs. Katsuyori Shibata

* Kazushi Sakuraba and Yuji Nagata vs. Rolles and Daniel Gracie

* Toru Yano and The Great Muta vs. Minoru Suzuki & Shelton Benjamin

* King of Destroyers Match: Bad Luck Fale vs. Togi Makabe (match can only end via knockout, TKO or submission)

* NWA Title Match: Rob Conway © vs. Satoshi Kojima

* IWGP Tag Team Title Match: Davey Boy Smith Jr. & Lance Archer © vs. Karl Anderson and Doc Gallows

* IWGP Junior Tag Team Title Match: The Young Bucks © vs. Alex Shelley & KUSHIDA vs. Alex Koslov & Rocky Romero vs. Taichi & TAKA Michinoku

* IWGP Junior Heavyweight Title Match: Prince Devitt © vs. Kota Ibushi

* IWGP Heavyweight Title Match: Kazuchika Okada © vs. Tetsuya Naito

* IWGP Intercontinental Title Match: Shinsuke Nakamura © vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi
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And they also have it in orange, for some reason.



Regal himself doesn't seem to be a fan of it. The orange one in particular.
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I've heard a little bit of a buzz about New Japan Pro Wrestling lately. Apparently they've been putting on good shows and the like. Anyone else follow them? If I were to try and get into them, what would be the best way to go about it? Here is the card for their upcoming show:

* Hiroyoshi Tenzan, Tomoaki Honma, Captain New Japan & Bushi vs. Tiger Mask Jushin Liger, Manabu Nakanishi, Super Strong Machine


* Hirooki Goto vs. Katsuyori Shibata

* Kazushi Sakuraba and Yuji Nagata vs. Rolles and Daniel Gracie

* Toru Yano and The Great Muta vs. Minoru Suzuki & Shelton Benjamin

* King of Destroyers Match: Bad Luck Fale vs. Togi Makabe (match can only end via knockout, TKO or submission)

* NWA Title Match: Rob Conway © vs. Satoshi Kojima

* IWGP Tag Team Title Match: Davey Boy Smith Jr. & Lance Archer © vs. Karl Anderson and Doc Gallows

* IWGP Junior Tag Team Title Match: The Young Bucks © vs. Alex Shelley & KUSHIDA vs. Alex Koslov & Rocky Romero vs. Taichi & TAKA Michinoku

* IWGP Junior Heavyweight Title Match: Prince Devitt © vs. Kota Ibushi

* IWGP Heavyweight Title Match: Kazuchika Okada © vs. Tetsuya Naito

* IWGP Intercontinental Title Match: Shinsuke Nakamura © vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi
NJPW was trying to push Naito as their new golden star, but the crowd is still all about Tanahashi. They did a poll to see who the fans would rather see close the show, and they voted for the Intercontinental match.
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Also, Davey Boy is awesome over there now, he seems to have found himself.
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Luke Gallows/Doc/whatever you wanna call him teaming with Karl Anderson....that should be a sick match vs Killer Elite Squad.
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NJPW was trying to push Naito as their new golden star, but the crowd is still all about Tanahashi. They did a poll to see who the fans would rather see close the show, and they voted for the Intercontinental match.
That is interesting. I wonder if Tanahashi takes the IC Title in that match? I think it's meant to be one of their biggest ones, so that would make sense.

I always enjoyed David Hart Smith in the WWE. I think he struggled getting his personality across and seemed to not work well with restraints, but I'm sure he would be tearing it up in Japan. I'd be interested to see his team with Lance Archer. I had heard they were the NWA World Tag Team Champions, but I just read that they lost the titles to Rob Conway & Jax Dane. That means Conway is now the NWA World Heavyweight Champion and an NWA World Tag Team Champion at the same time. Good for him.

Luke Gallows is going to get so good working over in Japan. I can see the WWE giving him another crack in a year or two.
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As a youth I always liked the "international" feel of WCW. You had all these seemingly random Mexicans/Spanish/Latino rasslers who would feud with each other, and some Japanese dudes who would feud with each other.... they were never the main focus of the show or anything, but they were always good for "something different".
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I think he was mainly appearing in NXT at the time and he was getting cheered there because he was feuding with Bo Dallas. Apparently this match happened the same week 3MB formed on Smackdown, so in canon it was a random one night only face turn I guess.

Well, that and NXT is its own thing, even without the pre-taped "timing" issues. (Such as Seth Rollins being not only a face, but the top face of NXT and still debuting in full WWE as a heel). Big E Langston was a (pretty popular) face anytime he was on NXT as well, but was "the heavy" for Dolph Ziggler and AJ, making him a de facto heel on WWE TV (and also why his "I Need Five" theme makes no sense without the context of his NXT 5 count gimmick). Even after 3MB appeared on NXT, Drew still got cheers.

NXT is a strange microcosm. WWE cannon can bleed into it, but NXT cannon generally doesn't bleed into WWE (unless someone at the booth comments that they were "called up"). The only exception to this seems to be The Wyatt Family. They've pretty much remained as they were from NXT completly intact.
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