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Old 03-23-2019, 01:54 AM   #48401
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Could see Becky get the Bryan post-Mania 30 treatment in the sense they keep her in a top role till SummerSlam and then afterwards start pushing her off to the side in favor of Charlotte or whichever woman du jour Vince is interested in. Currently he's rumored to be interested the most in Lacey Evans for top star tier treatment once she gets over her ring phobia.
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Old 03-23-2019, 02:14 AM   #48402
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None of that would surprise me, but it honestly wouldn't surprise me if Charlotte walks out of Mania champion either.
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Old 03-23-2019, 02:47 AM   #48403
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Old 03-23-2019, 02:58 AM   #48404
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That's good for Becky.
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Old 03-23-2019, 08:08 AM   #48405
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Old 03-23-2019, 08:09 AM   #48406
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Old 03-23-2019, 11:47 AM   #48407
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Been watching WWE Network and I forgot I liked Jeff Jarrett in the late 90's.
Jeff Jarrett was awesome and I completely blanked that from my mind somehow...

I bet it's all the shit people write about him and his dad in their books.

Well I liked Double J. Beating women with guitars was a great heel gimmick.
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Old 03-23-2019, 12:26 PM   #48408
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Double J was the perfect midcard heel. He could garner a reaction, cut a promo and work. Perfect gate keeper.
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Old 03-23-2019, 12:36 PM   #48409
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Been watching WWE Network and I forgot I liked Jeff Jarrett in the late 90's.
Jeff Jarrett was awesome and I completely blanked that from my mind somehow...

I bet it's all the shit people write about him and his dad in their books.

Well I liked Double J. Beating women with guitars was a great heel gimmick.

I think it was a case of trying to use him as the top guy when he wasn't a top guy.
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Old 03-23-2019, 02:44 PM   #48410
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Jeff was a fine mid-card heel. Main event heel or babyface anywhere else on the card? Nope. He’s kind of like The Miz in that regard.
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Old 03-23-2019, 04:23 PM   #48411
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He was supposed to work with Austin in mid 99 but Austin vetoed it. People talk about HBK being a politician, but Austin was just as bad.
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Old 03-23-2019, 04:34 PM   #48412
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I think it was a case of trying to use him as the top guy when he wasn't a top guy.
I didn't see most of the WCW or any of the TNA stuff so watching Jarrett in attitude Era WWE just reminds me how great a heel he was.
I bet he could have worked at the top of the card as a heel when the smaller guys came to the top. Guys like Angle, Jericho, Benoit, Guerrero would struggle to have a bad match with Jeff Jarrett.
Putting him against the plethora of douchebags at the top of WCW probably didn't help build him as a Main Event but WWE knew how to handle their stars. I bet Vince was hurt to lose a great worker with legit heat on the mic.
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Old 03-23-2019, 04:37 PM   #48413
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He was supposed to work with Austin in mid 99 but Austin vetoed it. People talk about HBK being a politician, but Austin was just as bad.

I read something about this but I couldn't remember if it was about him or his dad.

Jarrett Vs Austin would have worked. Austin was so big in 99 that Jarrett would have been a top heel just via the Debra connection.
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Old 03-23-2019, 05:06 PM   #48414
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Jeff had the most heat around the time he left, No Mercy. If he would've stuck around I could have seen him getting a little higher on the card. But with Rock, Austin, and Triple H at the top I would likely struggle seeing him as equal. His character is like The Miz during his big championship run in a way.

When he returned at the end of 97 again The Undertaker at In Your House DX, that was the time to do something bigger. I remember hearing Jarrett was returning there I think in a WWF magazine and I was pumped. But they gave a bullshit finish and no program ever started.
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Old 03-23-2019, 05:17 PM   #48415
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Old 03-23-2019, 07:03 PM   #48416
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I read something about this but I couldn't remember if it was about him or his dad.

Jarrett Vs Austin would have worked. Austin was so big in 99 that Jarrett would have been a top heel just via the Debra connection.
Both I think.

Austin held a grudge against Jarrett's dad for pay issues during his time in Memphis and giving preferential treatment to his son so Jarrett never had to struggle to make money.

The grudge against Jarrett himself was due to several reasons. In Memphis, Austin held animosity towards Jarrett for the special treatment he got and Jarrett supposedly mocked Austin's pay at least on one occasion. In WWF, Austin was furious at a shoot promo from Jarrett where he verbally trashed the Stone Cold gimmick.
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Old 03-23-2019, 07:33 PM   #48417
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That's one way of saying it I suppose.
The words "shoot and" trashed" make it sound worse. Wasn't it around the time of those stupid worked shoot Russo fantasies that WWE abandoned very quickly? Either way the version I read was more about potentially riling up Christians against the 3:16 thing which to be honest Jeff Jarret could not be held accountable for.
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Old 03-23-2019, 08:14 PM   #48418
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Believe so.

Don't remember if Jake Roberts was upset at Austin mocking his religious beliefs but Jarrett took a personal offense to Austin's 3:16 promo and him being the symbol of the edgier direction wrestling was heading towards.

Everything after him insulting WWF and Vince in the promo was all unscripted stuff. Its why whatever big plans WWF had for Jarrett got quickly dropped and when those plans resumed in 1999, Austin remembered Jarrett's attempt to wreck his gimmick so he returned the favor by wrecking Jarrett's chance at a big push.
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I didn't see most of the WCW or any of the TNA stuff so watching Jarrett in attitude Era WWE just reminds me how great a heel he was.
I bet he could have worked at the top of the card as a heel when the smaller guys came to the top. Guys like Angle, Jericho, Benoit, Guerrero would struggle to have a bad match with Jeff Jarrett.
Putting him against the plethora of douchebags at the top of WCW probably didn't help build him as a Main Event but WWE knew how to handle their stars. I bet Vince was hurt to lose a great worker with legit heat on the mic.
Jarrett was solid, but he wasn’t that great that it was a major loss. Vince and JR offered Jarrett the same deal as his previous cycle. That sent a very clear message that once his heat with Austin had set in, there was no room for him to move up the card.

It would have been cool to see him work with Benoit, Jericho and Guerrero heading into 2000, but he wasn’t necessary.
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Old 03-24-2019, 12:37 AM   #48422
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No individual wrestler with the possible exception of Stone Cold was truly necessary to the WWE during the Attitude era.

What does that even mean anyway, necessary? Necessary for what? Pat Patterson and Gerry Brisco drew stupidly high ratings for a gimmick match so I find it hard to believe any individual was indispensable at that time. Austin was the only wrestler of the Attitude era that could have caused a huge ratings drop by leaving for WCW.

Jeff Jarrett was never necessary. I just liked his shtick and usually enjoyed his matches and I'm surprised I forgot that.

It's wrestling books that did it, they trash Jarrett and I'm sure Gary Hart called his dad a gay sex offender or something.
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Believe so.

Don't remember if Jake Roberts was upset at Austin mocking his religious beliefs but Jarrett took a personal offense to Austin's 3:16 promo and him being the symbol of the edgier direction wrestling was heading towards.

Everything after him insulting WWF and Vince in the promo was all unscripted stuff. Its why whatever big plans WWF had for Jarrett got quickly dropped and when those plans resumed in 1999, Austin remembered Jarrett's attempt to wreck his gimmick so he returned the favor by wrecking Jarrett's chance at a big push.

Sounds like a load of nonsense to me.

So stick that in your pipe and smoke it!
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Old 03-24-2019, 01:18 AM   #48424
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Fuckin love Jeff Jarrett.

That is all, slapnuts
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Old 03-24-2019, 01:28 AM   #48425
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Not only has JJ not drew a dime he lost WCW and TNA millions lol
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Old 03-24-2019, 03:17 AM   #48426
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No individual wrestler with the possible exception of Stone Cold was truly necessary to the WWE during the Attitude era.

What does that even mean anyway, necessary? Necessary for what? Pat Patterson and Gerry Brisco drew stupidly high ratings for a gimmick match so I find it hard to believe any individual was indispensable at that time. Austin was the only wrestler of the Attitude era that could have caused a huge ratings drop by leaving for WCW.

Jeff Jarrett was never necessary. I just liked his shtick and usually enjoyed his matches and I'm surprised I forgot that.

It's wrestling books that did it, they trash Jarrett and I'm sure Gary Hart called his dad a gay sex offender or something.
I just mean that when you say “Vince was probably gutted to see a guy with that heat go,” I think the answer is “Nah, they basically low-balled him out.” If Vince wanted to keep Jarrett, he wouldn’t have left for WCW at that point.
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Old 03-24-2019, 03:18 AM   #48427
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Jarrett’s early stuff in TNA did a lot to kill any potential interest in it as a product.
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Old 03-24-2019, 04:18 AM   #48428
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One of my earliest bits in TPDub, along the same lines as "Janella is Trash," was "Any promotion built around Jeff Jarrett deserves to fail." And I stand by that.
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Old 03-24-2019, 04:21 AM   #48429
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Old 03-24-2019, 04:39 AM   #48430
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It’s not a bad point. Jarrett was a ratings killer in the WWF at one point too. I think this was before the 1999 heel run people are mentioning.
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:13 AM   #48431
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Old 03-24-2019, 06:27 AM   #48432
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Old 03-24-2019, 06:45 AM   #48433
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Old 03-24-2019, 10:04 AM   #48434
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This is literally the worst wrestling television show Ive ever seen. California Championship Wrestling. Awful promotion
Lol you gotta check out the first 5 minutes of the video
Bump for those who missed the gold here.
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Old 03-24-2019, 10:08 AM   #48435
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Wait is Ripper a babyface? Fist he and his goons kill that woman then he comes out to Twisted Sister to babyface pop?!?
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LMAO Ripper tore something about 1 minute in and just leaves the match hahahahahahaa
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Old 03-24-2019, 10:11 AM   #48437
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Watch that video for the Vietnam explanation book for families commerical at 17 minutes in please, world history folks.

"Daddy, did we win the war?"
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LOL they used jobber Sammy Delgado in two matches with one segment between. LOL @ when your ref is taller than your monster heel "Goliath".

Love the commentary. Bell rings. "I don't know what that move was".
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Old 03-24-2019, 10:23 AM   #48439
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Randomly watching Armageddon '06... omg this ladder match is one of the most brutal matches of all time. Jesus.
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