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Old 08-14-2019, 07:34 PM   #51641
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It should get a sizeable bump once matches are finally announced but with ROH's track record this year, likely still going to end with somewhat empty arenas for these shows.
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:59 PM   #51642
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Is Performance Fighter the new Sports Entertainer?
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:02 PM   #51643
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:22 PM   #51644
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Saw people on Twitter complaining about prices for for tickets for first SDLive on FOX...sounds like 100 level seats might be up to $300 and floor seats might be $400
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:25 PM   #51645
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I could see WWE running a KOTR finals special on the WWE Network on Aug 31 opposite ALL OUT
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:38 PM   #51646
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I could see WWE running a KOTR finals special on the WWE Network on Aug 31 opposite ALL OUT
I imagine the finals will be at the clash
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:44 PM   #51647
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:51 PM   #51648
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I could see WWE running a KOTR finals special on the WWE Network on Aug 31 opposite ALL OUT
Doubt it since it would be another big show competing against NXT UK's TakeOver: Cardiff show in terms of focus and social media trends for the day.

Plus it would mean they'd be rushing the whole KotR tournament in a little over 2 weeks.

WWE caught a big break after New Japan announced Royal Quest won't air live on New Japan World so it likely won't be as impactful against NXT UK's show.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:30 PM   #51649
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You know... it has taken me several weeks/months of not watching WWE to really appreciate how "nauseating" their camera movements are. Before I guess maybe I was more "used to it" or "desensitized"..... but just watched the clip of Sasha Banks' return and when she was hitting Becky with the chair, and the camera is tilting up and down and zooming in and out, and shaking.... it literally hurt my eyes to look at.
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Old 08-15-2019, 10:16 AM   #51650
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I haven’t been excited about anything in the WWE for years, but The Fiend is amazing. So please forgive me in advance for the fantasy booking post:

Brock Lesnar goes on a complete tear in the fall and winter since losing the Universal Title. Very aggressive, nasty, and more vicious. He enters the Royal Rumble and is the favorite.

Meanwhile another entrant in the Rumble is Bray Wyatt (not The Fiend, since Bray has no idea that he is actually The Fiend). Bray enters himself into the Rumble and is motivated to be a winner and repent his sins that he committed as the former Bray Wyatt years ago. He wants to become WWE Champion to erase that memory.

During the Rumble, Brock is cleaning house and killing people. Shockingly, Bray eliminates Lesnar. Brock freaks out, a few chair shots and puts Bray through an announce table.

Soon after, Bray airs some FireFly Funhouse segments and the theme is how mean Brock is. He ends up challenging Brock to a one on one contest, so that he can prove that bullies and poor sportsmanship never win.

At the Elimination Chamber, Brock beats Bray in a few minutes. As Bray is getting to his feet, Brock comes back to the ring and absolutely destroys Bray. Coughing up blood, stretcher job (similar to the Rollins beatdown but worse).

A few weeks later, Bray comes back in the FireFly Funhouse, and he begins building The Fiend, and that The Fiend is coming for Brock at WrestleMania.

WrestleMania: The Fiend def Brock Lesnar

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Now back to reality. I really hope The Fiend has a good showing in the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal this year.
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Old 08-15-2019, 02:38 PM   #51651
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:02 PM   #51652
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Seems there might be a real chance for NJPW to ditch ROH in favor of AEW. Would come at the cost of losing CMLL as a partner but then gaining AAA as their new Mexican partner.

Observer reported that WWE had recent talks with CMLL in regards to a potential business relationship.
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:04 PM   #51653
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Also AAA might be ditching MSG as the location for their event next month in New York City.
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:12 PM   #51654
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Im fully expecting the Fiend to be a comedy gimmick eventually with R Truth.

Why? Because A Fiend is just missing an R to be a Friend
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Old 08-15-2019, 10:32 PM   #51655
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Old 08-15-2019, 10:57 PM   #51656
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Seems there might be a real chance for NJPW to ditch ROH in favor of AEW. Would come at the cost of losing CMLL as a partner but then gaining AAA as their new Mexican partner.

Observer reported that WWE had recent talks with CMLL in regards to a potential business relationship.
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Old 08-16-2019, 12:21 AM   #51657
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Pretty much the same thing that's been happening to Impact except their day one guys have gone to WWE as producers. With Anthem showing that they're not afraid to spend money for the promotion and Sinclair hardly doing anything for ROH, I think it'd be smart for the two to merge together.
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i was thinking the same thing the 2 merge and go on sinclairs tv may have to boot bubba though.
Plot Twist: ROH and Impact! fall under the NWA umbrella, and Corgan runs them both.
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Old 08-16-2019, 12:23 AM   #51658
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The term "Artistic Combat" still makes me think of WMAC. "Performance Fight", on the other hand, seems like it should refer to Battledome.
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Old 08-16-2019, 12:42 AM   #51659
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New WWE/FOX synergy perhaps?


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Old 08-16-2019, 07:53 AM   #51660
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Putting the replica mask they’re selling right next to the real thing was a mistake.
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:25 AM   #51661
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LOL that's pathetic although understandable because the real mask probably cost like 500 bucks.

Cant even imagine what the commercial version of the lantern would cost lol
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:53 AM   #51662
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Seems there might be a real chance for NJPW to ditch ROH in favor of AEW. Would come at the cost of losing CMLL as a partner but then gaining AAA as their new Mexican partner.

Observer reported that WWE had recent talks with CMLL in regards to a potential business relationship.
When AEW was announced, one of the weird and “dirty” Vince things I could see WWE doing was work with New Japan. I sort of gave up on that crazy idea, but with WWE having talks with CMLL, it would not completely astound me to hear that something happens there.

Cesaro and Seth Rollins in the G1. Daniel Bryan at Wrestle Kingdom. Okada at WrestleMania. That sort of thing.
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Old 08-16-2019, 11:39 AM   #51663
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Yeah I would imagine the NJPW and WWE alliance to be the more likely right now.
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Old 08-16-2019, 12:14 PM   #51664
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NJPW being dragged down by WWE would fucking devastate me
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Minimal crossover could be surprisingly good. I mean, Cesaro in the G1? Holy fucking shit. Daniel Bryan vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi? Those sorts of things have more interest to me than simply seeing Omega back.

Even something like Nakamura coming out to a Subconscious to do an IC Champion vs. IC Champion match with Naito would be really cool. Is Naito still doing that thing where he acts too big for the IC Title?
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Old 08-16-2019, 06:17 PM   #51666
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New WWE/FOX synergy perhaps?


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Old 08-16-2019, 06:18 PM   #51667
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Minimal crossover could be surprisingly good. I mean, Cesaro in the G1? Holy fucking shit. Daniel Bryan vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi? Those sorts of things have more interest to me than simply seeing Omega back.

Even something like Nakamura coming out to a Subconscious to do an IC Champion vs. IC Champion match with Naito would be really cool. Is Naito still doing that thing where he acts too big for the IC Title?
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Old 08-16-2019, 06:20 PM   #51668
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Yeah I would imagine the NJPW and WWE alliance to be the more likely right now.
Finn Balor, The Club, Nakamura all as a long term NJPW invasion angle
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Old 08-16-2019, 07:41 PM   #51669
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Guests from partner companies are not generally pushed in New Japan, even long tenured, liked & trusted guys like Dragon Lee aren't booked to run roughshod over the home talent.

Would WWE be fine sending Rollins in on a gruelling schedule where he's going to be exposed as not being on the level of the top New Japan guys just to have him pick up 4 wins and 5 losses? Why send a low card act like Cesaro? He might go over a Makabe, Kojima or a Fale and have some great matches with Ishii / Okada / Tanahashi / take your pick, but does that spot make any sense over the dozen New Japan exclusive guys who can't even get in the G1? What's even the end goal there? Cesaro just goes back to doing nothing matches at 25% of his ability?

Keep WWE as far away from New Japan as possible, thanks.
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Old 08-16-2019, 08:19 PM   #51670
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End goal for New Japan is to increase the number of people who hear about New Japan. Working with a bigger promotion does that. Would Okada look good on WWE television? I can understand the fear there, but that’s a different issue.

WWE’s goal would be to prevent a New Japan/AEW working agreement. It also allows them to get their talent exposed in a context that the AEW audience admires, creating potential fab movements around certain talent. Having WWE talent involved in the best critical matches gives them bragging rights and interrupts AEW momentum. Do I like it? Not from the perspective where I want AEW to succeed, but I don’t think WWE cares about that.
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Old 08-16-2019, 08:21 PM   #51671
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WWE book everyone 50/50 anyway. I don’t see why they would care if Seth Rollins lost to Tanahashi. It would probably give Seth a stiffy too. Morale boosting is another side effect. New Japan content on the WWE Network is good for both parties too.
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Old 08-16-2019, 08:44 PM   #51672
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New Japan having their own subscription service eaten by WWE would not be good for New Japan. WWE's own fuckboy Seth Rollins in the G1 would not be good for New Japan, its pure fan wank and you're not even a fan of either company.
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:16 PM   #51673
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Most likely WWE would demand one of their guys to win the G1 since Triple H revealed a while ago these partnership deals are not on equal terms.

Its pretty much you do whatever WWE wants and WWE has the right to make sudden changes whenever they want regardless if it hurts your own plans.

EVOLVE's 10th anniversary show had the NXT title as the main event instead of their own belt because WWE likely demanded it for the Network special.
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Guests from partner companies are not generally pushed in New Japan, even long tenured, liked & trusted guys like Dragon Lee aren't booked to run roughshod over the home talent.

Would WWE be fine sending Rollins in on a gruelling schedule where he's going to be exposed as not being on the level of the top New Japan guys just to have him pick up 4 wins and 5 losses? Why send a low card act like Cesaro? He might go over a Makabe, Kojima or a Fale and have some great matches with Ishii / Okada / Tanahashi / take your pick, but does that spot make any sense over the dozen New Japan exclusive guys who can't even get in the G1? What's even the end goal there? Cesaro just goes back to doing nothing matches at 25% of his ability?

Keep WWE as far away from New Japan as possible, thanks.
To be fair, how much difference is there in Rollins going 4-5 in a month period in the G1 vs. How WWE main eventers are currently booked anyways?
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