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Old 03-05-2019, 05:50 PM   #481
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Only way WWE is ever going to fix RAW's 3rd hour struggles is if they revamped their entire creative process for the show.

RAW has too much junk or useless filler going on and them losing the overrun hasn't lead to any real noticeable improvements for the 3rd hour.
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SD went up 10k viewers this week

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Old 03-06-2019, 06:32 PM   #483
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Old 03-12-2019, 05:30 PM   #484
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RAW up .5 from last week


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RAW had 2.82 million viewers

Hr 1 - 2.84
Hr 2 - 2.87
Hr 3 - 2.75

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HHH/Batista - 1.3 million

Seth saves Roman - 1.1 million

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Old 03-13-2019, 05:53 PM   #486
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SD bounces slightly up as well

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Old 03-19-2019, 05:48 PM   #487
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Slight drop this week

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2.69 million viewers

Hr 1 - 2.81
Hr 2 - 2.71
Hr 3 - 2.56

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What happened after RAW went off the air - 2.1 million
Drew/Brock - 833k
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Old 03-19-2019, 05:51 PM   #488
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For reference, Was a 3.31 last year this week

Down about 620,000 viewers
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:43 PM   #489
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Surprised 3rd hour wasn't lower considering it was pretty boring and meaningless even by RAW's standards.

WWE probably could have been averaging around that 3 million mark for RAW's Road to Mania had they not made a mess with RAW's hottest storyline (Becky-Ronda) and simply just took a page from Smackdown on how to build feuds that are actually interesting.
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Surprised 3rd hour wasn't lower considering it was pretty boring and meaningless even by RAW's standards.

WWE probably could have been averaging around that 3 million mark for RAW's Road to Mania had they not made a mess with RAW's hottest storyline (Becky-Ronda) and simply just took a page from Smackdown on how to build feuds that are actually interesting.
3 hours and literally nothing happened.
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:57 PM   #492
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RAW dropped 100k from last week

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RAW had 2.59 million viewers.

Hr 1 - 2.70
Hr 2 - 2.67
Hr 3 - 2.40

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770,000 less viewers than last year during this same week (last year was 3.36 million viewers at this time)
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Old 03-26-2019, 06:33 PM   #496
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Not surprised since outside of the Reigns return episode and maybe 1-2 other episodes at most, this year's Road to Mania wasn't interesting. Maybe the worst in years from how lazy WWE was.

Even with them having 2 ppvs to prevent burn out for Mania feuds, WWE still made a big mess with their biggest storylines and half-assed building up everything else for Mania.
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I wonder who Vince is gonna blame this time. Not like he can storyline wise blame the ratings on Baron Corbin again. That was a one time option that they could play, and within 2 months they pissed away the chance to actually make some changes. Instead they seem worse off to me now then when Corbin was the GM.

It's 12 days until Wrestlemania, multiple champs don't have a match, including the freaking WWE Champion. They overcomplicated the most interesting match they had so much it's insane.

Becky vs Ronda was the main event based on the build and fan excitement. In 2 short months they WWE'ed it up so much that the only justification for it to actually be the main event is because it's a historic first, not because it feels like the hottest thing going anymore.

I feel no excitement for Rollins and Brock, Finn vs Brock was far more exciting.

Either Seth wins and is a transitional champion for Drew to Roman, or Brock retains again because if there isn't a massive boost to the guy that beats him, then why beat him. Have him keep the belt and build somebody else to beat him at the next Saudi show.

Even Kofi, he is still super over, but they are really close to WWE'ing this one too. He got over naturally, and instead of just riding that wave, they had to make it about how Vince McMahon doesn't want a black champion without actually coming out and saying it, in a rehash of WWE doesn't want a small guy like Daniel Bryan as champion. 2014 = small, 2019 = black, and to WWE fans are too stupid to recognize that it's the same recycled storyline instead of simply letting it be about Kofi catching fire and becoming a star.

WWE has been nothing but incredibly lazy since they got their new TV deals. Either they are purposely in a holding pattern the last 12 months and will continue to be the next 6 months, wanting to make sure they have good TV for once their new deals start, or they got the new deals, saw their stock skyrocket, and just said "fuck it, we are super rich now and no longer have to put in any effort because who cares, we are set for years".
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Not surprised since outside of the Reigns return episode and maybe 1-2 other episodes at most, this year's Road to Mania wasn't interesting. Maybe the worst in years from how lazy WWE was.
WASN’T? That’s it? Is WrestleMania this weekend!?!
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Alright. Still one more week to go apparently. Still. Roman Reigns vs Drew McIntyre is a WrestleMania match. Holy shit, this is bad.
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Is Kofi vs Daniel Bryan official? I at least like the story behind that from what I’ve seen.

Obviously the mystique of WrestleMania has slowly been declining year after year for the past decade+ but this year it just jumped off a fucking cliff.
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Is Kofi vs Daniel Bryan official? I at least like the story behind that from what I’ve seen.

Obviously the mystique of WrestleMania has slowly been declining year after year for the past decade+ but this year it just jumped off a fucking cliff.
Not official yet but WWE spoiled the twist from last week's Smackdown ending by announcing it for Mania's card on their Instagram account yesterday.
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I wonder what the WWE Title match at the biggest show of the year was going to be if Kofi didn’t get it? All three challengers for the top title matches have come from freak accidents by the way. Specifically Kofi and Becky — they were never meant to be anything, but they accidentally got over with the bubble, and now they are telling you they are top stars. What about their stories appeals to anyone outside that bubble?

The ratings are apparently down 23% from last year. That’s larger than the TV industry drop. They aren’t going to go out of business, but they are bleeding, and there’s no guarantee this TV money train is going to last past the new contracts.
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I’ve gotten into an argument with people on here before about this, but I have no doubt that FOX and USA have it written in that if WWE underperforms they can opt out. They’re paying for a service, and that’s a predictable number of viewers to sell time to advertisers. If the advertisers hold because they are doing better than most things on television, it may not be an issue, but there is potential for a Jamie Kellner-like issue here, where WWE’s faster-than-the-industry trend of performing worse than TV, comparatively, becomes a bone of contention.
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You are absolutely correct @ Noid.

FOX did not sign a contract that says they have to pay a billion dollars over a handful of years if WWE underperforms. That's just not possible. It wouldn't make sense from a business stand-point. I am sure if they under-perform there is the chance of being sent to FOX SPORTS (which is in less homes than USA Network) at a lesser pay-scale.
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Old 03-27-2019, 11:47 AM   #505
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What is interesting to me, and I've mentioned here before, is if come October another 'shakeup' happens and magically most of the big names are on brand blue, since it will be in a prime position to have more viewers than RAW.

If Roman, Ronda, etc all go to SD then RAW will be left w/o the proven ratings go-getters. So SD going to FOX could actually cause RAW to drop in ratings. And of course, WWE fans have been programmed to treat RAW as the "A SHOW" for years, so will many migrate to Friday night to watch live, or just set their DVRs?
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Old 03-27-2019, 04:33 PM   #506
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we're finally seeing the result of years of bland programming, uninteresting stories, very basic scripts.....Oh and creating like 2 stars the last 15 years. They can't rely on the old guard to carry them anymore. There's just a lot more interesting media that attracts people these days and the WWE has been stale for years.

obviously WWe ain't going anywhere anytime soon, but this downward trend will hopefully motivate them to do things differently
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Old 03-27-2019, 05:45 PM   #507
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Jump up in ratings this week for SDLive, only 200k less viewers than RAW

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Old 04-02-2019, 06:03 PM   #509
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Not great ratings news for RAW on the last show before WrestleMania:
Up 70k from last week but down 700k from last year


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2.64 million viewers

Hr 1 - 2.75
Hr 2 - 2.79
Hr 3 - 2.37

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Ronda/Becky/Charlotte - 1.9 million
Seth/Brock - 1.5 million
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Old 04-03-2019, 06:26 PM   #510
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SD also dropped this week

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SDLive had 2.14 million live viewers this week, down 250k from last week

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Kofi signs contract - 585K
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Old 04-09-2019, 05:39 PM   #511
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RAW dropped 1 million live viewers from the post WM34 episode (3.92). Note this is often the most-watched RAW of the year.


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Hr 1 - 3.18
Hr 2 - 2.94
Hr 3 - 2.65

Avg - 2.92

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Dean leaves RAW - 4.8 million
Undertaker/Elias - 1.5 million
Kofi/Seth promo - 1.4 million
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Almost want to say that dean segment is having its numbers artificially inflated somehow.... That much more than taker and Kofi/Seth? Man I dunno about that.
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Old 04-09-2019, 05:43 PM   #513
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Raw gonna drop below 2 million regularly when the football season starts again, it seems
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Old 04-09-2019, 05:47 PM   #514
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Almost want to say that dean segment is having its numbers artificially inflated somehow.... That much more than taker and Kofi/Seth? Man I dunno about that.
The Dean segment is the weekly "here's what happened after RAW went off the air" and those always seem to do really well, better than anything actually on RAW for some reason. The Kofi/Seth segment was the opening promo btw, the match itself has half that amount.
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Ah I was thinking it was the dean segment from during the show, wasn't thinking about it being the dark segment. Makes more sense now.
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Old 04-09-2019, 07:28 PM   #516
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RAW dropped 1 million live viewers from the post WM34 episode (3.92). Note this is often the most-watched RAW of the year.
Pretty much WWE's ineptness and laziness with a Road to Mania finally came back to bite them big time.

For the past several years, they've been coasting on building up Mania properly but always got bailed out by the RAW After show. This year it didn't happen because of the 1-2 punch of them bungling the hottest storyline (Becky vs Ronda) and very little on the RAW side was interesting coming out of Mania.
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Old 04-09-2019, 09:05 PM   #517
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I think next week won't drop too bad via 'superstar shakeup'
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I dunno, Raw sounded really shit. What’s the point of a “shake up” when people appear wherever and whenever they want? But I guess the people watching have low standards. I think it will drop by about 300,000 on average.
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Old 04-10-2019, 05:47 PM   #519
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SD rose 50k viewers from last week but not a great number for post WM episode


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Most watched on YT:

Braun/Joe - 1 million
Kofi/The Bar - 655K
Becky/Lacey - 626K
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SD rose 50k viewers from last week but not a great number for post WM episode
I think Smackdown was about 900,000 less viewers than last year's post Mania show.

I know WWE took the gas off the pedal after the new TV deals, probably thinking they could turn it up as soon as the new deals kicked in, but that is a pretty large number of viewers they are going to have to attract/win back.

Fox bought a show that has lost around 30% of its audience since the deal was inked. I have argued that ratings aren't anywhere near the level of importance they used to be, but that doesn't mean the old thinking is completely gone.

A show getting 3 million viewers vs a show getting 2 million is a big difference.
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