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Old 07-07-2021, 01:39 AM   #5201
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Have they stopped with the counting wins/losses things already?
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Old 07-07-2021, 02:07 AM   #5202
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The appeal is to try to get new fans/lapsed fans who don't want to commit to watching something every week but would happily binge watch a season of whatever if it got good reviews.

The weekly format will only ever draw the current niche market, which continues to shrink.
I don’t think it’ll work like you think it works. Wrestling doesn’t function well in seasons. It defeats the purpose and I see it as being less accessible rather than more.
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Old 07-07-2021, 02:07 AM   #5203
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Have they stopped with the counting wins/losses things already?
I think they keep it up, but the idiots worked out that they need to deliberately book guys under to keep them from being #1 Contender for the World Title, so they only acknowledge it when they want to. Like TNA.
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Old 07-07-2021, 02:08 AM   #5204
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Why is Tony Khan bragging about how he got a refund for the exploding deathmatch botch??

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...at-revolution/

Besides, didnt they already tell us it was Kenny's fault

Seriously, Khan seems like such a Self Mark Doofus that he will just spill the behind the scenes details to anybody in order to appear cool.

“I was trying to be too safe and I let the professionals handle the stuff and they are guys who don’t understand wrestling,” Khan said. “It was professional pyrotechnic guys. They totally s--t the bed, these guys. I ended up not paying them. It was like $100,000 they ended up refunding for all the expenses of the match. So I didn’t end up paying for the (exploding) barbed wire deathmatch, which I shouldn’t have. They screwed up royally. We put together something great. Kenny and Jon worked their asses off and all they had to do was set up the final explosion. This is because we used professional pyrotechnic people who are supposed to know.”
What an absolute asshole.

Yep. Try using unprofessional pyro guys next time, you fuckwit. Here’s a scoop: It was a bullshit idea on the surface of it.
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Old 07-07-2021, 02:10 AM   #5205
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It was hard to listen to khan's appearance on busted open. Like, I was legitimately embarrassed for him.

He completely dodged Bubba calling him out on the false promises of wins and losses counting and the sports style presentation. Those being my biggest disappointments with aew.
He can’t handle criticism well. And it’s not like there is actually a good retort for it. They simply lied to the fans.
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Old 07-07-2021, 02:47 AM   #5206
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I don’t think it’ll work like you think it works. Wrestling doesn’t function well in seasons. It defeats the purpose and I see it as being less accessible rather than more.
I mean I guess I'm the guy who has also been going around suggesting a rassling show with no rassling on it, so what do I know....

I just think that there needs to be a "drastic evolution"/"shift" in presentation and delivery if there is any chance of expanding beyond the shrinking niche market.

Need someone who just thinks completely differently than the "norm"
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Old 07-07-2021, 03:44 AM   #5207
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I mean I guess I'm the guy who has also been going around suggesting a rassling show with no rassling on it, so what do I know....

I just think that there needs to be a "drastic evolution"/"shift" in presentation and delivery if there is any chance of expanding beyond the shrinking niche market.

Need someone who just thinks completely differently than the "norm"
I wasn’t saying that in a dismissive way or anything — I agree with your overall point there. I think streaming would be the golden feather in a promotion’s cap. Unless it exposes them to lots of ridicule, lol. I definitely think presentation and formatting needs to be re-thought. Not “revolutionized,” per se — but just tidied up and smartened up.

That being said, as much as people may not want to admit this: Vince McMahon has actually been at the forefront of this. I mean, I don’t like the sterilized aesthetic of his shows. And his formatting doesn’t retain live viewers on TV that well. But the guy sells 1-hr versions of his show to markets that also by the 3-hr version. He creates a tedious product and then makes people pay for a more exciting one.

I’d rather someone other than Vince be at the forefront. The completionist in me would like to see a wrestling product I can engulf myself in entirely each week. But that is probably not going to happen unless one of those outside influences takes hold. The other option is that WWE expands to the point that Vince cannot control it anymore and accidental good takes place under his umbrella that is sort of self-contained (in a way that even NXT isn’t now).
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Old 07-07-2021, 09:07 AM   #5208
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I mean I guess I'm the guy who has also been going around suggesting a rassling show with no rassling on it, so what do I know....

I just think that there needs to be a "drastic evolution"/"shift" in presentation and delivery if there is any chance of expanding beyond the shrinking niche market.

Need someone who just thinks completely differently than the "norm"
Has anyone even tried rasslin in a seasonal format?

I never watched Lucha Underground. Is that a thing they did? DaveWadding would know.
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Old 07-07-2021, 09:08 AM   #5209
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Also again: I would 100p watch your non-rasslin rasslin show, Lock Jaw.
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Old 07-07-2021, 09:27 AM   #5210
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Has anyone even tried rasslin in a seasonal format?

I never watched Lucha Underground. Is that a thing they did? DaveWadding would know.
Yeah LU was seasonal. And more narrative with cinematic scenes and stories. It was very good. Also it seemed that they were able to highlight all the workers to make them look their best similar but better than ECW.

For example, El Texano came off like one of the most bad ass workers in the world. Like a Mexican Stan Hansen.

Angelico was like an evolved Jeff Hardy.

John Morrison came off like HBK 2.0.

Ricochet was easily one of the best in the world.
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Old 07-07-2021, 09:38 AM   #5211
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Yeah LU was seasonal. And more narrative with cinematic scenes and stories. It was very good. Also it seemed that they were able to highlight all the workers to make them look their best similar but better than ECW.

For example, El Texano came off like one of the most bad ass workers in the world. Like a Mexican Stan Hansen.

Angelico was like an evolved Jeff Hardy.

John Morrison came off like HBK 2.0.

Ricochet was easily one of the best in the world.
that was bad for the wrestler when the 4th season was slow to come out and the wrestlers could not work other places. till impact was able to make a deal with them.
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Old 07-07-2021, 10:32 AM   #5212
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Have they stopped with the counting wins/losses things already?
No but there's a difference between keeping track of them and have them actually mean something.

Having guys go on a tear on aew dark whenever you need them to challenge for a title does not give any weight to wins and losses.
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Old 07-07-2021, 12:15 PM   #5213
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Old 07-07-2021, 12:51 PM   #5214
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Tomm End/ Aleister / Malakai Blacks perhaps AEW bound...





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guess i got to dvr aew and impact big bro is about to start pisses me off that they are not on wwe nights.
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Old 07-07-2021, 02:28 PM   #5216
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Tomm End/ Aleister / Malakai Blacks perhaps AEW bound...





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I can’t watch that video, but if he is calling himself Malakai Blacks and cutting promos that contain that quote underneath, then the WWE really wasn’t the problem there.
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:14 AM   #5217
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Basically all wrestling shows are going to be sold out for a little while. It’s no achievement right now.

Latest rating was a pretty big flop from AEW.
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Old 07-09-2021, 08:30 AM   #5221
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I don't think that it was a flop, not that it was great but it was average. Also it was a great show top to bottom which is more than you can say for WWE. The shows WWE produce are so bad that they are getting the lowest ratings they ever had since 93. I mean WWE is absolute shit from an ass and AEW is either "meh" or really fuggin good. The "meh" absolutely comes from the lack of fans and overuse of Jacksonville. Meanwhile WWE had been touring before live crowds for years and have been total shit from an ass.
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I don't think that it was a flop, not that it was great but it was average. Also it was a great show top to bottom which is more than you can say for WWE. The shows WWE produce are so bad that they are getting the lowest ratings they ever had since 93. I mean WWE is absolute shit from an ass and AEW is either "meh" or really fuggin good. The "meh" absolutely comes from the lack of fans and overuse of Jacksonville. Meanwhile WWE had been touring before live crowds for years and have been total shit from an ass.
AEW has the lowest ratings anyone with that sort of platform has had ever. You’re allowed to enjoy it, but “really fuggin good” is entirely subjective. What isn’t subjective is whether the show makes sense and whether it draws an audience. WWE’s creative issues are an unrelated issue, honestly. They could be great or horrible and AEW still sucks in its own vacuum.

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"Nah you're all wrong, it sucks, stop having fun" - Noid
Well, I didn’t say stop having fun. That’s just a lie to make yourself seem like a victim, but at least you got the first two parts right. White noise, arrested development, nonsensical and unartistic crap. It is also unappealing to most wrestling fans, evidently. TPWW is usually wrong.
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Old 07-09-2021, 01:47 PM   #5226
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Old 07-09-2021, 01:52 PM   #5227
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Damn. Fat Bastard rejected by both sides. A man without a home. Expect to see him lurking in the rafters at future AEW shows. “Crow Bastard”.
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Old 07-09-2021, 02:08 PM   #5230
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Old 07-09-2021, 03:51 PM   #5231
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Is he threatening to "make Wrestling unsafe"?
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Old 07-09-2021, 03:55 PM   #5232
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This is going to become a thing now.

I remember when WCW had a bunch of fans hitting the ring because they had "plants" doing it before.
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Old 07-09-2021, 07:18 PM   #5233
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Is he threatening to "make Wrestling unsafe"?
He should sign up and join their mid-card if that’s his goal.
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Old 07-09-2021, 07:19 PM   #5234
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This is going to become a thing now.

I remember when WCW had a bunch of fans hitting the ring because they had "plants" doing it before.
I was thinking about this earlier, lol. It’ll be interesting to see if that happens, but wrestling promotions do kind of generate the fans they deserve.
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Old 07-09-2021, 08:49 PM   #5235
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That guy seems like he has like 95% the same personality and interests as you
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Old 07-09-2021, 10:21 PM   #5236
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Why did Tony Khan agree to go on Bully Ray's show if he was going to spaz out and not answer any questions??? What a manchild
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Old 07-09-2021, 10:43 PM   #5237
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Lol, I would never buy a ticket to go and see an AEW show. Swing and a miss.

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Why did Tony Khan agree to go on Bully Ray's show if he was going to spaz out and not answer any questions??? What a manchild
He lives in the bubble. He either thinks his show is great or thinks that everyone else outside the Cornette sphere thinks his show is great. Mark Henry is/was a host on that show, wasn’t he? He probably thought he had more free advertising. He wasn’t expecting a guy to ask logical questions in response to the product.
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Old 07-09-2021, 10:54 PM   #5238
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That guy seems like he has like 95% the same personality and interests as you
"Fat Bastard" has some severe issues that at least begin with delusions. He claims that William Patrick Corgan bailed him out of jail. I find that hard to believe. Someone should probably actually check to see if this dude has guns. Because he is a threat to society.

Noid, for all his faults, isn't an overt mental case. He's closer to 40 tweet fanfic promo than rush the ring and threaten to do it again.
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Have xrod and Noid 69’d yet?
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"Fat Bastard" has some severe issues that at least begin with delusions. He claims that William Patrick Corgan bailed him out of jail. I find that hard to believe. Someone should probably actually check to see if this dude has guns. Because he is a threat to society.

Noid, for all his faults, isn't an overt mental case. He's closer to 40 tweet fanfic promo than rush the ring and threaten to do it again.
Just another attempt to slam me as a person from someone who tries to get mean because they don’t have the substance to form actual points.

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Have xrod and Noid 69’d yet?
Lol, shades of “69 me, Don!” Classic comedy that. Because it’s a sex act. And sex is funny.
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