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Old 10-30-2019, 12:50 PM   #52681
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Is it bad that John Tenta has a way better dropkick than me?
He was actually known for having one of the better dropkicks in wrestling pre-WWF when he wrestled in All Japan.
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Old 10-30-2019, 01:09 PM   #52682
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He looked like he was 45 for his entire adult life but he only lived to 42...
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Old 10-30-2019, 02:05 PM   #52683
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I'm actually interested to see crowd reactions from the women's match at Blood Money 4
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Jeez look how great and quick Andre was.
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Old 10-30-2019, 06:26 PM   #52686
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It'd be really interesting to see what the buy rates would be at the moment if they'd never started the network. December to Dismember would be looking like a megashow.
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Old 10-31-2019, 06:29 AM   #52687
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I just got done with Impact from Tuesday

The only interesting thing from the whole 2 hours was Sami winning the Title and Tessa coming out and staring at his face which I guess he had thick spit on his face which was very unfortunate looking
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Old 10-31-2019, 12:00 PM   #52688
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I tried watching it recently but that idiot was doing a promo from his car and his idea of intensity sounded a lot like a fat constipated guy trying to dig shit out of his ass with a spoon
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If you think he's great there, you gotta check this out.
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Old 10-31-2019, 02:47 PM   #52690
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Old 10-31-2019, 06:30 PM   #52691
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WWE released their fiscal report earlier today and their stocks took a big hit as a result. Getting very close to hitting half of its value from the high it had last year.

Also the Network numbers going down also hurts NXT based on the assumption they have a big chunk of viewers who only watch the weekly show when its uploaded to the Network. Since NXT have yet to grow in any week, can't count on those lost subs shifting over as potential live viewers.
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Old 10-31-2019, 07:40 PM   #52692
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According to PWI, WWE is currently considering the idea of holding a War Games match at next month's Survivor Series event.

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Considering NXT is holding their War Games event the night prior with two of those matches, seems a bit of an overkill to have that many in one weekend. Also if the rumored one at Survivor Series involves NXT, its likely going to just be the same people from the night prior.
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:15 PM   #52693
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WWE letting its developmental system and its main shows become close enough to where a “war of the worlds” between the two on one of their biggest yearly events isn’t COMPLETELY batshit crazy is very telling.

This company doesn’t know what the fuck they’re doing even at the most basic level. It’s quantity over quality at every stop.
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Old 10-31-2019, 10:17 PM   #52694
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You need blood to have a War Game match
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Old 10-31-2019, 11:43 PM   #52695
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Pro Wrestling Illustrated released their Top 100 Women rankings for the year with Becky taking the #1 spot.



Like with their yearly lists, the system they use for rankings slants very heavy towards WWE and their titles which is why someone like Natty managed to be #7 and Lacey Evans took #23.
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Old 11-01-2019, 12:18 AM   #52696
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WWE letting its developmental system and its main shows become close enough to where a “war of the worlds” between the two on one of their biggest yearly events isn’t COMPLETELY batshit crazy is very telling.

This company doesn’t know what the fuck they’re doing even at the most basic level. It’s quantity over quality at every stop.
Quantity over quality has ultimately been the problem for essentially 10+ years now, it's just only become more of a larger, and more often or recurring, issue the longer it's continued.
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Old 11-01-2019, 04:49 PM   #52697
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[NXT Spoilers] That move combination looks very familiar Bro...
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Old 11-01-2019, 05:30 PM   #52698
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According to the Observer Newsletter, the $3.5 million loss in house show revenues for the last fiscal quarter was the first time WWE ever lost that much money for house shows in company history.

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Old 11-01-2019, 06:02 PM   #52699
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Seems ROH lied about Joey Mercury's recent departure from the company being "mutual" since he's been airing a lot of dirt on the company's management.

Biggest allegations are the unsafe workplace environment in regards to the lack of medical staff and security for shows, as well as providing improper care for talent after they suffered injuries.

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Mercury accuses ROH of providing an unsafe working environment for talent, pointing out "No security, no medical staff, no women on creative, worst looking wrestling on or off TV" ...

- Accuses Gilleland of not taking proper care of Jay Lethal after his arm was broken during the Honor United tour ...

- Calls out Gilleland and ROH for not implementing proper concussion protocol and accuses of Gilleland of allowing Kelly Klein to travel to South Africa to wrestle despite having a "brain injury."

- Recalls treating Flip Gordon's elbow dislocation with the help of Bandido and Brody King instead of ROH providing proper care.
More complaints in the link: https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/j...alent-and-more
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Old 11-01-2019, 07:39 PM   #52700
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The Rock just moved 8 minutes away from me.

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Random buzzed thought....Aleister Black is the one to beat the fiend. His backstory would blend the best, and it's a new star in the making. (Though we already know...) I dunno just popd in my head.
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Old 11-02-2019, 12:32 AM   #52702
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Fuck ROH.
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Old 11-02-2019, 12:35 AM   #52703
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Hang on, how does Network subscribers being down mean that NXT must be doing significantly worse? Like, was the assertion ever that people were buying the WWE Network exclusively for NXT? Isn’t it possible that a number of people watch the show on the Network, some on USA but numbers have still dropped because of PPV and the shift to USA? I don’t think anyone expected subscribers to go up.
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Old 11-02-2019, 12:44 AM   #52704
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I think it's more to do with them not establishing NXT UK enough to be a replacement on the network for NXT. Yeah if you just used the WWE Network for NXT you'd be dumb not to cancel it.
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Hang on, how does Network subscribers being down mean that NXT must be doing significantly worse? Like, was the assertion ever that people were buying the WWE Network exclusively for NXT? Isn’t it possible that a number of people watch the show on the Network, some on USA but numbers have still dropped because of PPV and the shift to USA? I don’t think anyone expected subscribers to go up.
Mostly in regards to the idea that NXT has a very sizable amount of viewers who don't watch live and instead on the Network. Network subs have started to trend downwards meaning that pool of potential viewers has been shrinking.

If NXT starts to increase in live viewers then that could be a sign those who are dropping their subs switched over but if it doesn't, then those are lost viewers for NXT and maybe even WWE in general.

Likely won't really know until the next fiscal quarter report since by then enough weeks would have passed to figure out that viewership situation. The one WWE recently released doesn't cover October.

Not sure if its going to remain the case but until NXT's move to cable tv, PPVs and NXT were the biggest drivers for subs for the Network. NXT was also among the biggest in terms of enticing people to keep their subs after the free month.
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Mostly in regards to the idea that NXT has a very sizable amount of viewers who don't watch live and instead on the Network. Network subs have started to trend downwards meaning that pool of potential viewers has been shrinking.

If NXT starts to increase in live viewers then that could be a sign those who are dropping their subs switched over but if it doesn't, then those are lost viewers for NXT and maybe even WWE in general.

Likely won't really know until the next fiscal quarter report since by then enough weeks would have passed to figure out that viewership situation. The one WWE recently released doesn't cover October.

Not sure if its going to remain the case but until NXT's move to cable tv, PPVs and NXT were the biggest drivers for subs for the Network. NXT was also among the biggest in terms of enticing people to keep their subs after the free month.
Yeah, I get all that, but why does a 9% drop mean that people aren’t watching NXT on the Network? How do we know how many of them now watch on USA versus how many still watch on the Network? WWE don’t release numbers for that, do they?

If 500,000 people used to watch on the Network, 400,000 could still watch now. Or less. Or even more.
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Yeah I don't see how they don't correlate the move to USA into the Network drop.
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Yeah, I get all that, but why does a 9% drop mean that people aren’t watching NXT on the Network? How do we know how many of them now watch on USA versus how many still watch on the Network? WWE don’t release numbers for that, do they?

If 500,000 people used to watch on the Network, 400,000 could still watch now. Or less. Or even more.
I'm just saying that the more the Network subs shrink, the smaller the pool of viewers NXT has available. It doesn't mean all 9% were former NXT Network viewers but its possible a noticeable percentage were and might not be switching over as live viewers since NXT hasn't grown in viewership.

No, WWE doesn't release viewership numbers and instead minutes per sub since that is tied into executive bonuses.
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Yeah I don't see how they don't correlate the move to USA into the Network drop.
This fiscal quarter will probably show how much of an effect USA has on the Network since WWE expects another sizable drop.

If NXT's tv viewership goes up this quarter while Network subs go down as expected, then you could make a strong case of a switch happening. If NXT tv keeps going down or levels out, then you could make a case NXT might also be losing viewers on the Network since its consistently been one of the main reasons to have a sub.
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Except with the NXT vs Raw/Smackdown thing they are most likely trying to boost NXT viewership with a main roster cross over. That might push the numbers up a bit but once it's done they'll more than likely level out again.
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Yeah these next 2-3 weeks are going to be the toughest direct competition for AEW since NXT has both the build for War Games and Survivor Series going on at the same time to drive interest.

If AEW still manages to stay on top during those weeks, it should act as a wake up call to WWE that their plans for NXT are not working and should have left the brand alone instead of getting too hands-on with changes and rushing things for tv.
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Pro Wrestling Illustrated released their Top 100 Women rankings for the year with Becky taking the #1 spot.



Like with their yearly lists, the system they use for rankings slants very heavy towards WWE and their titles which is why someone like Natty managed to be #7 and Lacey Evans took #23.
The least they could do is get Shayna Baszlers first name right
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I'm just saying that the more the Network subs shrink, the smaller the pool of viewers NXT has available. It doesn't mean all 9% were former NXT Network viewers but its possible a noticeable percentage were and might not be switching over as live viewers since NXT hasn't grown in viewership.

No, WWE doesn't release viewership numbers and instead minutes per sub since that is tied into executive bonuses.
I get what you’re saying, but there are just too many things that could affect the Network to heap it all onto NXT. Or even if viewers have gone down (which makes sense), it’s not necessarily enough to say “Well, they all watch on USA now.” A sizeable amount no doubt do, but it doesn’t mean that there isn’t a large chunk that still do.

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Except with the NXT vs Raw/Smackdown thing they are most likely trying to boost NXT viewership with a main roster cross over. That might push the numbers up a bit but once it's done they'll more than likely level out again.
I’m not sure they will dial back. I think WWE have been very deliberate in holding off with this push and have been waiting to really hit the NXT button really hard. I guarantee there are Raw viewers who have no clue what NXT actually is. They’re not going to introduce them to that, and I think they will achieve a new level for the show.

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How would Sid fare today in WWE?
The whole mindset behind wrestling is different. He’d be entirely different, doing flips and shit, or he’d never have gotten into it.

Guys like Sid should be who they things with the 24/7 Title with. Let him Powerbomb a jobber and then hold the belt for a few weeks. Wrestling could use some Sid.
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