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Old 12-20-2019, 11:55 AM   #53361
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Reportedly this was planned, and the company is transitioning The Revival into a comedy team spoof of the Fabulous Ones.

The idea being to try to kill their image before their contracts are up and likely head to AEW for the years-long rumored Bucks feud.
A Fabs spoof complete with music video would be amazing.
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Old 12-20-2019, 12:24 PM   #53362
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Was chatting w a source who told me two matches WWE is considering for WM 36....


Tyson Fury vs. Brock Lesnar

Rey / Dominick / Cain Velasquez vs. Seth /AOP
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Old 12-20-2019, 12:27 PM   #53363
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Reportedly this was planned, and the company is transitioning The Revival into a comedy team spoof of the Fabulous Ones.

The idea being to try to kill their image before their contracts are up and likely head to AEW for the years-long rumored Bucks feud.
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Old 12-20-2019, 12:33 PM   #53364
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Old 12-20-2019, 03:54 PM   #53365
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Old 12-20-2019, 05:03 PM   #53366
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Old 12-20-2019, 06:21 PM   #53367
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It pays to have a good lawyer.... USSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not guilty.

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Old 12-20-2019, 06:29 PM   #53368
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Apparently some sales numbers for the WWE 2K series were recently revealed as part of an on-going lawsuit involving copyright infringement claims regarding Randy Orton's tattoos in the games.

WWE 2K16, 2K17, and 2K18 averaged around 3.38 million copies sold while 2K20 is currently well below that pace.

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In a lawsuit by the guy who did Orton’s tattoos, which were used in the WWE video games and he wanted a cut, it came out that between the 2016, 2017 and 2018 games, they sold a combined 10,143,602 units and grossed $418,692,256. That’s a per year average of 3.38 million units and $139,564,000 in total revenue. The numbers are way down this year due to the issues with this year’s game, but that shows the value of the WWE franchise in that market.
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Old 12-20-2019, 07:22 PM   #53369
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So does WWE make its money from everything other than actual wrestling at this point?
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Old 12-20-2019, 08:00 PM   #53370
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Pretty much. TV deals and other rights deals have been carrying the company financially for a long while now.

Take out both and WWE probably is a lot closer to death of WCW range or upper indies range like NXT but without WWE's money subsidizing it.
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Old 12-20-2019, 09:27 PM   #53371
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The guy that did Orton's tattoos is going to ruin wrestlers getting tattoos. Vince ain't going to pay every tattoo artist that tattoos wrestlers

The tattoo guy also wasn't thinking big enough..he should be asking for a cut of ppv sales and network money

WWE have to go back and blur up Orton on the network like the wwf logo
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Old 12-21-2019, 03:59 AM   #53372
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Randomly wondered onto an ROH show. Its Dinastia Munoz (RUSH & Dragon Lee) vs the Briscoes in a 60 man Iron Man match. Really excellent last 5 minutes.
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Old 12-21-2019, 04:29 AM   #53373
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Have this vague memory of Ashley Massaro managing Londrick during their reign as WWE Tag Team Champions and the trio making their entrance to her music. This is closest thing I've been able to find.
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Old 12-21-2019, 04:34 AM   #53374
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Old 12-21-2019, 08:35 AM   #53375
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The guy that did Orton's tattoos is going to ruin wrestlers getting tattoos. Vince ain't going to pay every tattoo artist that tattoos wrestlers

The tattoo guy also wasn't thinking big enough..he should be asking for a cut of ppv sales and network money

WWE have to go back and blur up Orton on the network like the wwf logo
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Old 12-21-2019, 10:51 AM   #53376
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Old 12-21-2019, 02:47 PM   #53377
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That's what happens when you learn flips instead of fundamentals

Lol could you imagine that happening in Mid-South with Bill Watts
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Old 12-21-2019, 06:31 PM   #53378
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Old 12-21-2019, 08:03 PM   #53379
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When Ric Flair debuted Meltzer said people said Flair was ruining the bizness bc they were used to the boring stuff like headlocks and hammerlocks and thought Flair's wrestling style was 'over the top/cartoonish'.

Now Flair is the gold standard for many. Wouldn't surprise me if Ricochet and others who flip/kick often are not the gold standard in the future for many.
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Old 12-21-2019, 08:03 PM   #53380
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Old 12-21-2019, 08:17 PM   #53381
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That's what happens when you learn flips instead of fundamentals

Lol could you imagine that happening in Mid-South with Bill Watts
I picture Orange Cassidy lasting 2 weeks in Mid-South. One week being his in ring funeral. Buzz Sawyer would eat him alive.
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Old 12-21-2019, 08:53 PM   #53382
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David Bixenspan going hard after PWInsider after they once again joined in on the WWE dog pile against AEW and also for some recent digs they made towards Ryan Satin.

PWI in recent times have really become the Vince McMahon and/or WWE of wrestling journalism in terms of their pettiness and spitfulnessl towards others for even the smallest issues.
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Old 12-21-2019, 09:02 PM   #53383
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Like when Meltzer is petty towards someone its either due to him arguing over some of the dumbest things possible or being goated by trolls to start arguments.

Satin can be pretty bad at times as well with stuff like that and even Fightful's Sapp but none of them compare to PWI's growing pettiness during the past year or two. Only reason PWI gets less backlash for their antics is due to them not really doing it on social media and instead mostly on their pay shows and terribly designed website.
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Old 12-21-2019, 09:38 PM   #53384
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I picture Orange Cassidy lasting 2 weeks in Mid-South. One week being his in ring funeral. Buzz Sawyer would eat him alive.
Buzz Sawyer was also a piece of dog shit and not really someone that should be a shining example of anything. I’ll take orange Cassidy over that fucking crook any day of the week.
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Old 12-21-2019, 09:40 PM   #53385
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Yep, him and Punk are coming back as a tag team.
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Old 12-21-2019, 10:26 PM   #53386
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Lol could you imagine that happening in Mid-South with Bill Watts

Good rasslin in Mid South.

Real bad sexual politics though...
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Buzz Sawyer was also a piece of dog shit and not really someone that should be a shining example of anything. I’ll take orange Cassidy over that fucking crook any day of the week.
You are not wrong. He would eat him alive BECAUSE he's a piece of dogshit. I just didn't want to put him at a Butch Reed level.
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Old 12-22-2019, 01:13 PM   #53388
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This just got posted on YouTube and holy fuck! I had no idea this was even a thing. Two of the bigger themes of the decade came from this. So cool!
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Old 12-22-2019, 11:25 PM   #53390
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David Bixenspan going hard after PWInsider after they once again joined in on the WWE dog pile against AEW and also for some recent digs they made towards Ryan Satin.

PWI in recent times have really become the Vince McMahon and/or WWE of wrestling journalism in terms of their pettiness and spitfulnessl towards others for even the smallest issues.

I honestly have no clue how that malware kingdom of a website is still even around at this point. I know Mike Johnson is good @ WWE scoops, though I get a kick out of him taking credit for all of them (I've never heard of him crediting Meltzer, Satin, Sapp, anyone else).


There's no way PWIinsider's base is anything but the plus 50 crowd who dominates WWE ratings.
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Old 12-22-2019, 11:54 PM   #53391
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Supposedly the lack of sourcing is due to PWI viewing themselves as being above dirtsheet reporters and also being very stubborn when it comes to reporting news they can't break first. Also some real jealously and resentment towards the Observer and Meltzer that has gotten a lot worse over the past year or two.

Also wouldn't be surprised if they don't really have that many insider sources that are wrestler or Creative-based outside whatever WWE approves. The Saudi travel issue might have exposed that problem since they hesitated on reporting details and when they did, it was mostly just WWE's PR stance while also blaming wrestlers for "spreading rumors" which was Corey Graves stance on his podcast show.
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Old 12-23-2019, 12:26 AM   #53392
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Nathan Jones is playing Shao Kahn in the new Mortal Kombat movie
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Wasn't he in Mad Max: Fury Road? He's appeared in Indian movies as well.
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He was also in Troy, The Condemned and I think Ong Bak. He beats up an elephant in it.
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That's a pretty big role for the dude.
Even bigger than getting his ass kicked by Michael Jai White in a movie. One of those Never Back Down flicks, I think. Or that other one where he got beat up by Donnie Yen. *

Pretty big step up from some Korean movie where he's a gentile giant, but suddenly can kick copious amounts of ass when he eats spicy food.


*Correction: It was Jet Li. I wasn't being racist, I thought I was thinking of a scene from one of the Ip Man movies, and I was thinking of Fearless. A quick minute of internet sleuthing cleared that up. Also, Nathan''s been in more movies than I thought. Good for him.
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Old 12-23-2019, 12:32 AM   #53393
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They muted Ambrose’s name. Typical.
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So they mute his wwe character name but keep him in the video....wut? Might have made sense had he been using his real name but he wasn't.
Which makes even less sense considering they dropped him into the name generator specifically so they can use the name Dean Ambrose with impunity. Why did they even bother?
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Old 12-23-2019, 12:42 AM   #53394
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Reportedly this was planned, and the company is transitioning The Revival into a comedy team spoof of the Fabulous Ones.

The idea being to try to kill their image before their contracts are up and likely head to AEW for the years-long rumored Bucks feud.
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"Hey Scott... I fell!!!"



No, the sad thing is that WWE would be very likely to try to force this as a thing instead of a one-off accidental goof.
Eh. Your revelation actually makes that worse.

And hilarously, they could scrub themselves clean with a trip to NWA or Japan. In fact, Japan with Mox would be a fantasy that lends credence to the assertion of the New Japan video package that insinuates that "Death Riders" being an actual group Moxley is a part of. And you add in his Japanese son to the mix, and you have... well, I was going to say four horsemen, but not in the trademarked throw your fingers up way, but in the "behold a pale rider..." way.
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Old 12-23-2019, 12:47 AM   #53395
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The "we both banged Lita and Beth Phoenix bros".

Viking Raiders better watch out!
That would make them "weiner cousins" (thanks, Todd n Tyler), and they should be referred to as kayfabe cousins as such... much like the three Hollys.

Wouldn't really be able to make that into a team name, though. Well, not one they could use. Then again, WWE did try to start a women's stable called "Submission Sorority" without doing like 30 seconds of investigation as to why that would be a very, very bad idea.
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Old 12-23-2019, 12:52 AM   #53396
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This just got posted on YouTube and holy fuck! I had no idea this was even a thing. Two of the bigger themes of the decade came from this. So cool!
Personally, I wasn't a huge fan of "Grab Them Cakes". I was one of those that was wondering what happened to him coming out to "Another One Bites The Dust". I was way too young to understand copyrights and whatnot back then.
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Old 12-23-2019, 01:19 AM   #53397
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I agree. Another One Bites The Dust was WAY better.

Grab Them Cakes made him too cartoony
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That would make them "weiner cousins" (thanks, Todd n Tyler), and they should be referred to as kayfabe cousins as such... much like the three Hollys.

Wouldn't really be able to make that into a team name, though. Well, not one they could use. Then again, WWE did try to start a women's stable called "Submission Sorority" without doing like 30 seconds of investigation as to why that would be a very, very bad idea.
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Reminiscing some of Vince McMahon's terrible decisions from 2019. From announcing the Wild Card rule and immediately breaking the rules within the next hour of the show to the "no wrestling during commercials" shtick which led to a few weeks of "2-out-of-3" falls matches. Completely butchering Ambrose's heel turn from last year, stunting Seth Rollins' progress as a baby face champion and unnecessarily shoving Wyatt into the Universal title picture. It's also sad that Drew McIntyre hasn't won a major championship since the NXT world title.
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Reminiscing some of Vince McMahon's terrible decisions from 2019. From announcing the Wild Card rule and immediately breaking the rules within the next hour of the show to the "no wrestling during commercials" shtick which led to a few weeks of "2-out-of-3" falls matches. Completely butchering Ambrose's heel turn from last year, stunting Seth Rollins' progress as a baby face champion and unnecessarily shoving Wyatt into the Universal title picture. It's also sad that Drew McIntyre hasn't won a major championship since the NXT world title.
Drew is sadly a perfect example of time and place not jiving. When he first got hired, Vince pushed him until he got bored. Then, he was left to languish. He became comedic jobber fodder. He got released. He was reborn in the fire of the indies... which made WWE come a-callin' again. Looked like he was getting a rocket up his ass. Now, he's just part of the toy collection.

Kinda wish he were on his release resurgence like now. It was fine when he was helping the European wrestling renaissance, but now? The man could be a hot ticket item for AEW or NJPW or NWA. Hell, I honestly even could see him as someone who could honestly be a helpful piece of the RoH roster to slow their apparent crumbling. Instead, WWE does what WWE does, and takes any interest and excitement and momentum built either by outside circumstance or even A PUSH THEY THEMSELVES START and just let the guy become background again in short order.
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