TPWW Forums  

Go Back   TPWW Forums > o f f t o p i c > entertainment forum
Reload this Page Star Wars - SPOILERS INSIDE
Register Members List

Reply
Page 14 of 36 « First 45678910111213 14 15161718192021222324 Last »
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-27-2015, 11:15 PM   #521
wwe2222
 
wwe2222's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,398
wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)
TFA Stormtroopers were much more of a threat than in the original movies as far as their ground combat
wwe2222 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2015, 11:19 PM   #522
Fignuts
Hey Mister!
 
Fignuts's Avatar
 
Posts: 54,947
Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Snoke says "There's been an awakening" all ominous and stuff. He's not talking about the light side in general, as luke is still out there. I took it to mean there is a person out there awakening their abilities in the force that has incredible potential and that person is Rey.

That and Kylo's battered body and psyche was enough to make rey's victory believable for me.

If this was a standalone film you could have a case for calling her overpiwered, but we know this is just the first chapter and we've got a long way to go. Bitch's bloodstream could be made of midichlorians for all we know.
Fignuts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2015, 11:23 PM   #523
Ol Dirty Dastard
boop/bop/beep
 
Ol Dirty Dastard's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,430
Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Yeah I don't think it'll be overlooked how this girl is just a crazy badass off the get go.
Ol Dirty Dastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2015, 11:25 PM   #524
Ol Dirty Dastard
boop/bop/beep
 
Ol Dirty Dastard's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,430
Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
In fact, I found that a welcome change in direction. We've already see the long hard grind to even really be able to do anything force related. If she's the super powerful badass motherfucker, I like the idea that she's some kind of force savant.

And this would obviously drive Kylo mad because he'd be trying so hard to be a conquerer but this girl is coming in and stealing his thunder. It's a new wrinkle and I like it.
Ol Dirty Dastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 12:46 AM   #525
Kalyx triaD
Raw Video Footage
 
Kalyx triaD's Avatar
 
Posts: 45,950
Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by wwe2222 View Post
While yes she is overpowered, i don't really see the criticisms not this. Characters like Batman and Superman are too, yet are still popular among fans and critics. Either the character works for you or doesn't.
Nobody at all is talking about if it works or not. Premise one was recognizing that she was OP. That is it.
Kalyx triaD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 01:12 AM   #526
Fignuts
Hey Mister!
 
Fignuts's Avatar
 
Posts: 54,947
Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Fignuts makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
She's only overpowered if there is never an explanation as to why she's so powerful. It's a story about space wizards. They have carte blanche to make anyone as powerful as they want, even if tje reason is that she's a random prodigy. It would be consistant with the rest of the saga as there have never been any specifically clear rules on how the force does or doesn't work.

I honestly don't even see the point in debating this. Like I said, we've only seen the first part of the story, and it was meant as a setup. If further films don't deliver a satisfying answer to Rey's power , then you can say she's ovwrpowered, but right now its too early, and there are too many delibrately unanswered questions to make that call.
Fignuts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 02:39 AM   #527
Ol Dirty Dastard
boop/bop/beep
 
Ol Dirty Dastard's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,430
Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fignuts HD Edition View Post

I honestly don't even see the point in debating this.
yep. that's about right.
Ol Dirty Dastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 03:07 AM   #528
Kalyx triaD
Raw Video Footage
 
Kalyx triaD's Avatar
 
Posts: 45,950
Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
There was no debate. No variation of viewpoints. I was explaining how Rey is a Mary Sue.
Kalyx triaD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 03:17 AM   #529
SlickyTrickyDamon
Quark is Less Impressed.
 
SlickyTrickyDamon's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,371
SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD View Post
There was no debate. No variation of viewpoints. I was explaining how Rey is a Mary Sue.
Doesn't the three male writers disqualify that? A Mary Sue puts the super-perfect version of herself into the story.
SlickyTrickyDamon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 03:24 AM   #530
Kalyx triaD
Raw Video Footage
 
Kalyx triaD's Avatar
 
Posts: 45,950
Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Mary Sue is used today as any infallible or otherwise 'perfect' characters. This is why I mentioned author appeals so much. Alice in the RE movies is regarded as a Mary Sue despite not being written by a woman. People have accused Gail Simone as making Nightwing her Gary Stu, even as she was very open about how much she connected with Barbara Gordon.

It's no longer contingent on the writer inserting his or herself.
Kalyx triaD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 04:28 AM   #531
The Rogerer
 
The Rogerer's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,631
The Rogerer makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)The Rogerer makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)The Rogerer makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)The Rogerer makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)The Rogerer makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)The Rogerer makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)The Rogerer makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)The Rogerer makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)The Rogerer makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)The Rogerer makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)The Rogerer makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)The Rogerer makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)The Rogerer makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by wwe2222 View Post
While yes she is overpowered, i don't really see the criticisms not this. Characters like Batman and Superman are too, yet are still popular among fans and critics. Either the character works for you or doesn't.
Superman is a character who has struggled for relevance because of his lack of vulnerability at times. He is also intentionally designed to be amazingly exceptional because of magical powers.

Batman, again, is a wealthy man who dedicated his life to training himself.

Rey is playing the role of the young hero from obscurity, but she knows everything and achieves everything. Part of this is lazy writing because the audience already knows so much, why bother having the protagonist have to learn it too? They also want to compensate for a lack of capable women in past Star Wars stuff so they go out of their way to make her beyond capable.

It's not 'too early' to address anything. The film is out. Writing some other detail two years from now doesn't change what this film is.
The Rogerer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 04:36 AM   #532
SlickyTrickyDamon
Quark is Less Impressed.
 
SlickyTrickyDamon's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,371
SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)SlickyTrickyDamon makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
just 514 days.
SlickyTrickyDamon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 04:54 AM   #533
Tom Guycott
Wrestling Marks Rejoice!
 
Tom Guycott's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,156
Tom Guycott makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Tom Guycott makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Tom Guycott makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Tom Guycott makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Tom Guycott makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Tom Guycott makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Tom Guycott makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Tom Guycott makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Tom Guycott makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Tom Guycott makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Tom Guycott makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Tom Guycott makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Tom Guycott makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Here's a thought: what if the intention of her being so intuitive and "OP" with no prior training is to set *her* up as the eventual surprise big bad? She seems like she'd be easily seduceable with becoming uber powerful very quickly and intending to help people, but becoming cocky and petty... coming from nothing but scrounging a living to, almost overnight, being a bigger badass than (her possible granddad) Vader is a possible road to follow, if not flirt with for two more movies.

I know she is set up for the trilogy hero role, but she might swerve everyone and go all Sephiroth. She seems the perfect candidate for eventual arrogance and someone having to put her down. And *then* the argument would shift from her being "OP", to "why did the girl have to die?" or somesuch. Or maybe she even is initially blind to her descent, like Luke seemed to be, and also eventually loses a limb. Maybe a leg, though. Make it different.
Tom Guycott is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 06:45 AM   #534
Kalyx triaD
Raw Video Footage
 
Kalyx triaD's Avatar
 
Posts: 45,950
Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
It is very unlikely they would do something that bold with their only female hero. Just like John Cena, there's some meta-marketing here with Rey being the female face of Star Wars. She'll be tantamount to a Disney Princess, and no way in hell will they run blind into a minefield making her a villain down the line.
Kalyx triaD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 06:59 AM   #535
wwe2222
 
wwe2222's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,398
wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)
I guess I just don't see the big deal in being a Mary Sue or whatever. Just like I don't care if the movie passes the Bechdel test. Daisy Ridley was engaging and great in her role. I think it fits the story perfectly fine. You guys can keep debating this non issue.

Im the meantime I'm going to see the movie again and enjoy it just like I did the first time.

I'm all for debating points of the film but I don't care for debating invented terms like this devised solely to invent criticism in films. I'll leave that to you experts.
wwe2222 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 07:25 AM   #536
Kalyx triaD
Raw Video Footage
 
Kalyx triaD's Avatar
 
Posts: 45,950
Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
There was no debate.
Kalyx triaD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 10:05 AM   #537
Big Vic
( ._.)
 
Big Vic's Avatar
 
Posts: 14,042
Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
So Rey is Roman Reigns?
Big Vic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 11:05 AM   #538
Blonde Moment
It's all Bullshit
 
Blonde Moment's Avatar
 
Posts: 6,924
Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Guycott View Post
Here's a thought: what if the intention of her being so intuitive and "OP" with no prior training is to set *her* up as the eventual surprise big bad? She seems like she'd be easily seduceable with becoming uber powerful very quickly and intending to help people, but becoming cocky and petty... coming from nothing but scrounging a living to, almost overnight, being a bigger badass than (her possible granddad) Vader is a possible road to follow, if not flirt with for two more movies.

I know she is set up for the trilogy hero role, but she might swerve everyone and go all Sephiroth. She seems the perfect candidate for eventual arrogance and someone having to put her down. And *then* the argument would shift from her being "OP", to "why did the girl have to die?" or somesuch. Or maybe she even is initially blind to her descent, like Luke seemed to be, and also eventually loses a limb. Maybe a leg, though. Make it different.
I think she will be Kylo's redemption when all is said and done and both will start a New Jedi Academy. If this trilogy is to mirror the original in certain aspects than some bad things are bound to happen leaving it up to Kylo, Finn, Chewie ( if he makes it through 8 ) and Poe to save the day and Rey in Episode 9.
Blonde Moment is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 11:08 AM   #539
Blonde Moment
It's all Bullshit
 
Blonde Moment's Avatar
 
Posts: 6,924
Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I do find it interesting that Lor San Tekka ended up on the same planet Rey was Abandoned.
Blonde Moment is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 11:27 AM   #540
Big Vic
( ._.)
 
Big Vic's Avatar
 
Posts: 14,042
Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Big Vic makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
since its mirroring the original trilogy you think we will get another Christmas special?
Big Vic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 11:32 AM   #541
Blonde Moment
It's all Bullshit
 
Blonde Moment's Avatar
 
Posts: 6,924
Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Blonde Moment makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Vic View Post
since its mirroring the original trilogy you think we will get another Christmas special?
Dear God no.
Blonde Moment is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 11:32 AM   #542
Ol Dirty Dastard
boop/bop/beep
 
Ol Dirty Dastard's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,430
Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by wwe2222 View Post
I guess I just don't see the big deal in being a Mary Sue or whatever. Just like I don't care if the movie passes the Bechdel test. Daisy Ridley was engaging and great in her role. I think it fits the story perfectly fine. You guys can keep debating this non issue.

Im the meantime I'm going to see the movie again and enjoy it just like I did the first time.

I'm all for debating points of the film but I don't care for debating invented terms like this devised solely to invent criticism in films. I'll leave that to you experts.
Marry Me.
Ol Dirty Dastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 12:52 PM   #543
Simple Fan
Let me talk to ya
 
Simple Fan's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,749
Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I don't know if it is but I kind of got the feeling that Kylo Ren might have known who Rey was. When he takes off his helmet in front of her its like he's waiting for her to recognize him and she doesn't. Like said I don't think she was mind wiped but just to young to really remember anyone in her real family. He might not know her at all but that's just the feeling I got from the scene.
Simple Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 01:01 PM   #544
wwe2222
 
wwe2222's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,398
wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simple Fan View Post
I don't know if it is but I kind of got the feeling that Kylo Ren might have known who Rey was. When he takes off his helmet in front of her its like he's waiting for her to recognize him and she doesn't. Like said I don't think she was mind wiped but just to young to really remember anyone in her real family. He might not know her at all but that's just the feeling I got from the scene.
I dont think he knows her. He takes off the helmet after she makes some comment about him being a monster or something.
wwe2222 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 01:01 PM   #545
Ol Dirty Dastard
boop/bop/beep
 
Ol Dirty Dastard's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,430
Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
same
Ol Dirty Dastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 01:04 PM   #546
Simple Fan
Let me talk to ya
 
Simple Fan's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,749
Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Yeah that might be its just a feeling I got from the scene but I could be totally wrong.
Simple Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 01:22 PM   #547
Ol Dirty Dastard
boop/bop/beep
 
Ol Dirty Dastard's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,430
Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Usually in movies if you get the feeling, it's what they're going for. I think it's why he was so eager on training her.
Ol Dirty Dastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 01:25 PM   #548
Ol Dirty Dastard
boop/bop/beep
 
Ol Dirty Dastard's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,430
Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
remember in Episode 6, how Luke immediately realizes Leia is his sister and then Leia goes "I always knew" when he tells her.

I dont know if he's going to "know" it flat out, but the knowlege of it is at the very least an intuition he has because of the force.
Ol Dirty Dastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 02:13 PM   #549
wwe2222
 
wwe2222's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,398
wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)wwe2222 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)
I think that was after he took the mask off and tried to read her mind though
wwe2222 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 02:42 PM   #550
Reavant
Donkey Punch Elite
 
Reavant's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,910
Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon View Post
We don't know enough about her past upbringing to know what she knew beforehand about the Jedi to judge.
yes we do... she thought they were myths.
Reavant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 02:42 PM   #551
Ol Dirty Dastard
boop/bop/beep
 
Ol Dirty Dastard's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,430
Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ol Dirty Dastard makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
something something something Mary Sue OP
Ol Dirty Dastard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 04:52 PM   #552
Kalyx triaD
Raw Video Footage
 
Kalyx triaD's Avatar
 
Posts: 45,950
Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Too bad they ruled out any shot of her in a space bikini.
Kalyx triaD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 05:00 PM   #553
KIRA
Celestia's Left Hand
 
KIRA's Avatar
 
Posts: 17,359
KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)KIRA makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Vic View Post
since its mirroring the original trilogy you think we will get another Christmas special?
KIRA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 07:08 PM   #554
Reavant
Donkey Punch Elite
 
Reavant's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,910
Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Reavant has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Who thinks they will actually do a love story with fin and ray?
Reavant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 07:15 PM   #555
Simple Fan
Let me talk to ya
 
Simple Fan's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,749
Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
That seems like the way their going. I could see Fin being killed by Kylo Ren though to.
Simple Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 08:18 PM   #556
Ermaximus
It's High Noon!
 
Ermaximus's Avatar
 
Posts: 15,703
Ermaximus makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ermaximus makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ermaximus makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ermaximus makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ermaximus makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ermaximus makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ermaximus makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ermaximus makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ermaximus makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ermaximus makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ermaximus makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ermaximus makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ermaximus makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
So, if he is a goner, wouldn't having Lando come back to help avenge him make sense?

"Hey Ben you piece of shit, Chewie and I are here to make your ass pay. Then we're gonna drink some Colt .45 and piss on your grave you fucking emo little shit."
Ermaximus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 08:42 PM   #557
Simple Fan
Let me talk to ya
 
Simple Fan's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,749
Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Simple Fan makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
If he's Lando's kid I guess it would. He could live and find his parents if they are still alive to have his own little story.
Simple Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 08:53 PM   #558
Optimus Bone 69
One Shall Stand One Shall
 
Optimus Bone 69's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,271
Optimus Bone 69 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Optimus Bone 69 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Optimus Bone 69 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Optimus Bone 69 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Optimus Bone 69 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)Optimus Bone 69 has a good deal of rep (10,000+)
Never been that into Star Wars but enjoyed this only negative was that i watched episode 1,2 and 3 as a result
Optimus Bone 69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 09:53 PM   #559
Kalyx triaD
Raw Video Footage
 
Kalyx triaD's Avatar
 
Posts: 45,950
Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kalyx triaD makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
If they kill Finn I will pull a Kylo on the nearest computer.
Kalyx triaD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2015, 10:24 PM   #560
Ruien
MVP Mark
 
Posts: 16,451
Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Ruien makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Can't see them killing any of the 3 new babyfaces.
Ruien is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 14 of 36 « First 45678910111213 14 15161718192021222324 Last »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:40 PM.

Forums Home - TPWW - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin®