08-27-2020, 06:49 PM | #57001 |
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He reduced his punishment to a fine, and his main problem wasn't necessarily that they they were a face and heel hanging out together, but rather a face and heel who are currently in a program together hanging out.
Even then, his main issue wasn't that they were doing it, but rather it was found out that they were doing it. I don't think he even blamed Sonya and Mandy for it, as it was mentioned The Sheik used to hang out with faces occasionally. But no matter the circumstances, if a face was caught fraternizing with a heel in the old days, they were fined or fired. It's an old school mentality that isn't relevant today. I agree with cornette on how the actual wrestling programming should be done to make the viewer forget that it's scripted and lose themselves in the story, but wrestlers adhering to kayfabe outside the ring isn't going to bring any of the "magic" wrestling had, back. That toothpaste is never going back in the bottle no matter what you do, so I don't expect wrestlers to live their lives by those old standards. Within reason of course. I don't care about faces and heels hanging out or doing podcasts, but stuff like Jericho and Omega doing a podcast about their match literally the day afterwards is a bit much. |
08-27-2020, 06:54 PM | #57002 | |
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The transcript for that episode mentioned him first saying WWE should have fined them and then changing his mind saying they should have been fired instead.
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08-27-2020, 06:58 PM | #57003 | |
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Again, as I've said many times, the Women's Revolution doesn't really work because they don't have the depth ton the roster to make it work. You've got a handful of good to great workers, and the rest are anywhere from tolerable to the drizzling shits. And they seem to really like pushing the ones who are the drizzling shits. What I don't agree with cornette is WHO can work. He doesn't seem to like any of the japanese women, for instance, whereas I'd argue they're the most polished female workers there. Hell, most people would agree Asuka and Kairi, were the most entertaining act for a while on Raw and Smackdown. Meanwhile, he fawns over Rhea Ripley who is certainly talented, but also still green as grass. I like her, and I think she'll eventually join that handful of great workers, but as of right now, I don't get perticularly hyped for her matches. |
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08-27-2020, 06:59 PM | #57004 |
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08-27-2020, 07:03 PM | #57005 |
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Either way, I'm not agreeing with him or anything. Just saying his opinion on it is more because of the time he worked in the business and how it would have played out then, as opposed to hm just being a terrible person or anything like that.
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08-27-2020, 07:25 PM | #57006 |
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Flair with what looks like a wwf tag team belt. Must have been after he sent the proper belt back. |
08-27-2020, 07:36 PM | #57007 | |
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I'd also argue that WWE does have the depth needed to make it be a real game changer but have been constantly stunting its true potential because they simply can't get away from their bad habits. NXT has already shown that when you take away WWE's bad approach to things, a women's division can easily thrive and be just as successful in carrying a brand as their men's division. Like only WWE could take something as monumental as women main eventing Mania for the first time and instead of using that as the springboard of the next big phase, they quickly squander all of that momentum because they never actually cared about it to begin with. That showed big time once Ronda left. |
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08-27-2020, 08:52 PM | #57008 |
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I don't really like women's wrestling. Women's MMA is different but I'm just not into women's wrestling beyond the greats.
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08-27-2020, 08:57 PM | #57009 |
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This is sooooooo fucking cool
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08-28-2020, 12:00 AM | #57010 |
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"Bullet" Bob Armstrong passed away today.
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08-28-2020, 12:06 AM | #57011 |
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So sad. One tough morherfucker.
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08-28-2020, 03:00 PM | #57012 |
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Damn, he looked stronger than all of his sons even in the 90's.
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08-28-2020, 03:01 PM | #57013 |
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His SMW shit was great. Might have to watch some tonight.
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08-28-2020, 03:53 PM | #57014 |
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Beau James told a story where Bob had a 180 dumbbell fell on his face because the weight bench broke. Completely crushed his face and almost died. Dude was wrestling again within a month or so.
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08-28-2020, 03:55 PM | #57015 |
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Armstrong was lying on a bench, doing two-arm pullovers with about 180 pounds when his world turned upside down. “The bench wasn’t nailed down or bolted down. It was my fault completely,” he said. “I had just started to pull it over when the bench slid and broke and all the weight came down on my face. It tore my nose off and broke every bone in my face
His son Brad, Ronnie Garvin, and Pez Whatley helped him get emergency treatment. “My face was just about gone. It turned black, blue, and yellow with no nose. We put a sheet over my head so that people wouldn’t scream. They put me back together but it took a while and I lost about 30 pounds, maybe more" |
08-28-2020, 04:03 PM | #57016 |
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Yeah the truth behind The Bullet gimmick is some Ed Leslie level shit.
It sounds quite funny/gross until you actually hear the details and then it's not funny anymore. |
08-28-2020, 05:02 PM | #57017 |
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Meltzer had an interesting lengthy story in this week's Observer Newsletter and reposted in the Sheets thread about Armstrong's career in Georgia Championship Wrestling and a big feud with Roddy Rowdy Piper he had back in the early 80s.
Basically that feud managed to generate the first ever million viewers shows for cable TV wrestling in the US but because of a poor booking decision by Ole Anderson, it also killed a potential big money maker feud and Piper as a big draw for the company. Owner of GCW wanted Piper to win while Ole Anderson refused since he didn't want an outsider to beat one of his stars and as a result quickly deflated both the feud's drawing power and Piper's star power during his time there. |
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08-28-2020, 07:52 PM | #57019 | |
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He 100% said they should be fired, backed down to saying a fine and/or 6 month "cool off" period all in the name of kayfabe
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08-28-2020, 08:40 PM | #57020 |
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apologist!? poppycock. he's not running for re-election or something
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08-28-2020, 09:02 PM | #57021 | |
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08-28-2020, 09:15 PM | #57022 |
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No different than his thoughts on HBK during the Curtain Call.
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08-29-2020, 01:30 AM | #57023 |
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08-29-2020, 02:22 AM | #57024 |
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08-29-2020, 03:56 AM | #57025 |
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08-29-2020, 10:38 AM | #57026 |
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08-29-2020, 10:39 AM | #57027 |
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08-29-2020, 11:29 AM | #57028 |
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08-29-2020, 12:38 PM | #57029 |
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The Omega thing speaks to how Twitter is some weird, imaginary world. People going bonkers over this. It fucking means nothing...Omega literally just messing around, maybe creating a bit of buzz. Yet, you read the responses, it's this whole "thing." Jesus.
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08-29-2020, 12:54 PM | #57030 |
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Everything is SERIOUS BUSINESS to wrestling Twitter, it's all life or death
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08-29-2020, 02:32 PM | #57031 |
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Actually, it's not just wrestling Twitter, it's all of Twitter.
I've seen people get attacked for posting BEFORE and AFTER pictures of weight loss/muscle gain bc they are "Fat Phobic" and 'Fat Shaming" |
08-29-2020, 02:59 PM | #57032 |
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If you're posting Tweets please do a quick synopsis for those of us that loath clicking unsatisfying links to idiotic opinions.
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08-29-2020, 03:47 PM | #57033 |
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PWI really named Moxley wrestler of the year?!?!? Based on what, like 15 matches and the same exact promo for a year straight?
Just wow. Not even thinking about outside feds, Jericho and Cody both blew what Mox has done of of the water. |
08-29-2020, 05:29 PM | #57034 |
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There’s nothing to defend. I just didn’t remember him saying it. I must have zoned out. He’s not wrong. Wrestling is way better when people stick to kayfabe. It should be part of the job. If Sonya and Mandy are feuding, they shouldn’t be going to get their nails done together or whatever.
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08-29-2020, 05:31 PM | #57035 | |
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08-29-2020, 07:18 PM | #57036 | |
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AEW taking the top spot with Moxley either means PWI now recognizes AEW and their World title being equal to WWE and their WWE title or just felt Moxley's top star status and lengthy AEW title reign was enough to surpass anyone from WWE for rankings. Adam Cole pretty much took WWE's highest spot at #2 due to his top star status in NXT and record setting NXT title reign despite the belt being lower in prestige than WWE's top belts. |
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08-29-2020, 07:39 PM | #57037 | |
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08-29-2020, 07:54 PM | #57038 | |
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In PWI's eyes, him being AEW's current top star and his lengthy current AEW title reign outweighs Cody's status and TNT title reign. Same for him supplanting Jericho in terms of star status.
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08-29-2020, 08:01 PM | #57039 |
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Moxley has also had a very good run in NJPW. Capturing the US title twice and having a great run in the G-1. He probably wouldn’t be my pick but I get why he might be someone else’s.
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08-29-2020, 08:14 PM | #57040 | |
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And that’s really all they can do. Put on a product that captures the fans emotions, and makes them forget for a little while what they already know. But as far as recapturing the “magic” that wrestling once had, well that’s gone forever. The genie is out of the bottle, and no amount of adhering to kayfabe outside of the workplace, no matter how strict, will ever get it back in. And again, I say all this within reason. No one should be outright throwing away kayfabe in the fans faces like the previously mentioned omega/Jericho podcast. |
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