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Old 10-08-2020, 06:53 AM   #57641
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Old 10-08-2020, 01:38 PM   #57643
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Whatever happened to Dalton Castle? I remember he was like the talk of wrestling for a while.
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Old 10-08-2020, 02:01 PM   #57644
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According to Braun, the syringe is for B12 shots since his body has an issue processing caffeine. He didn't answer the mystery of the toiler paper under his door though.
I immediately think that's a closet/pantry for towels where he sticks his extra rolls of tp and he maybe has a cat that likes to fuck with it....
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Old 10-08-2020, 02:19 PM   #57645
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Old 10-08-2020, 02:50 PM   #57646
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Whatever happened to Dalton Castle? I remember he was like the talk of wrestling for a while.
He's still in ROH.

Speaking of which, ROH is getting some buzz right now. They've reinvented their presentation to be a pure sports style production. Even the wrestling itself is supposedly a bit slowed down from the usual indy stuff. I might get honor club for a month to check it out.
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Old 10-08-2020, 03:28 PM   #57647
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Does he still do the same gimmick? I remember it was Dalton Castle and his Boys
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Old 10-08-2020, 04:01 PM   #57648
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Not sure, but I think he has the same gimmick, just toned sown a bit.
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Old 10-08-2020, 05:50 PM   #57649
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According to Fightful, WWE has been holding talks for the past year regarding the idea of NXT getting a second weekly TV show.

These talks went as far as reaching the planning stage prior to WWE's recent outbreak and its currently not known if WWE is still going ahead with these plans.

The show itself had a tentative name of "NXT Underground" and would feature unused talent and their recent EVOLVE signings.

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There could be more NXT content on the way soon. Fightful has learned that a once-pitched NXT product was at least in the planning stages in September, before the most recent outbreak.

Once pitched as "NXT Underground" well before "Raw Underground" happened, but it wasn't to be anything like the Raw Underground we see today, outside of having peers watch the show. The idea was floated around last year, but not everyone was on board with the idea, which was tabled. There was a pilot for the event shot at the WWE Performance Center in Summer 2019, which would have been the setting of the event. We're told it has long been a Ryan Katz project.

The latest we've heard is that some unused NXT talent and new EVOLVE signings were tentatively planned for the show. Again, we are unsure of how the recent COVID outbreak have affected this.
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Old 10-08-2020, 06:49 PM   #57650
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:13 PM   #57652
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AEW's home network TNT is about to get hit with a huge wave of layoffs as part of WarnerMedia's current restructuring plans that are massive in scale.

Main reason is WarnerMedia has been getting hammered in revenues in several key areas during the coronavirus pandemic and their HBO Max streaming service being a big bust in terms of expectations and revenues since its launch.

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The company is implementing the cuts due to the decline in revenue from cable subscriptions, television ad revenue and movie ticket sales. The company noted that "an acceleration in shifting consumer behavior, especially in the way content is being viewed" is responsible for much of the decline.

"Like the rest of the entertainment industry, we have not been immune to the significant impact of the pandemic," a WarnerMedia spokesperson said in a statement. "That includes an acceleration in shifting consumer behavior, especially in the way content is being viewed. We shared with our employees recently that the organization will be restructured to respond to those changes and prioritize growth opportunities, with an emphasis on direct-to-consumer. We are in the midst of that process and it will involve increased investments in priority areas and, unfortunately, reductions in others."

This is the second round of layoffs for WarnerMedia as they cut 500 jobs in August at Warner Bros. Both NBCU and WarnerMedia have implemented layoffs recently as they pivot towards streaming. While WarnerMedia's HBO Max service has only garnered 4.1 million subscriptions since it launched in May, overall HBO subscriptions, which includes viewers watching it on premium channel bundles, rose to 36 million. It was noted that the increase in subscriptions "hasn't offset deeper declines at the commercial entertainment cable networks TNT, TBS and TruTV."
The huge hit in ad revenues probably going to get worse for WarnerMedia and the TV industry in general since that was a huge fear experts had with the coronavirus pandemic if it didn't ease up prior to the Fall sweeps.

AEW got extremely lucky with the timing of their modified TV deal with TNT since they would be hurting just as badly if the only real money coming in was from their share of ad revenues.
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Finns jaw broken in 2 places.
The NXT title seems cursed all of a sudden.

Kross Separated his shoulder winning it and Finn broke his jaw in his first defense.
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Old 10-09-2020, 12:53 AM   #57654
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WWE got named in a $40 million civil lawsuit filed against Matt Riddle and others in regards to the sexual abuse allegations surrounding him.

Among the allegations in this lawsuit includes Riddle bragged about sexually abusing Candy Cartwright to EVOLVE's owner and he did nothing about it and Riddle playing a major role in getting her bookings with WWE and EVOLVE earlier this year to be dropped because she wouldn't continue performing sexual acts on him.

The lawsuit does have some issues though in regards to getting a date wrong about Riddle's signing with WWE and how it portrays the partnership between WWE and EVOLVE since the inclusion of WWE as a defendant is the shakiest out of the group listed.

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According to Fightful, WWE has been holding talks for the past year regarding the idea of NXT getting a second weekly TV show.

These talks went as far as reaching the planning stage prior to WWE's recent outbreak and its currently not known if WWE is still going ahead with these plans.

The show itself had a tentative name of "NXT Underground" and would feature unused talent and their recent EVOLVE signings.
Yeah, no shit. This is why they put NXT on unopposed for a few weeks without AEW around. Not because they “wanted the jump,” which doesn’t make any fucking sense.

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AEW's home network TNT is about to get hit with a huge wave of layoffs as part of WarnerMedia's current restructuring plans that are massive in scale.

Main reason is WarnerMedia has been getting hammered in revenues in several key areas during the coronavirus pandemic and their HBO Max streaming service being a big bust in terms of expectations and revenues since its launch.



The huge hit in ad revenues probably going to get worse for WarnerMedia and the TV industry in general since that was a huge fear experts had with the coronavirus pandemic if it didn't ease up prior to the Fall sweeps.

AEW got extremely lucky with the timing of their modified TV deal with TNT since they would be hurting just as badly if the only real money coming in was from their share of ad revenues.
Hopefully they just cut AEW. They wouldn’t be getting anywhere near the ad revenue of a show that has that many viewers, especially with the 50/50 split. It’s probably performing at no better than 40% of what a show with that number of people watching should. Smart money would be to scrap that and start their own promotion or give the spot to someone else for less money and possibly more viewers.

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WWE got named in a $40 million civil lawsuit filed against Matt Riddle and others in regards to the sexual abuse allegations surrounding him.

Among the allegations in this lawsuit includes Riddle bragged about sexually abusing Candy Cartwright to EVOLVE's owner and he did nothing about it and Riddle playing a major role in getting her bookings with WWE and EVOLVE earlier this year to be dropped because she wouldn't continue performing sexual acts on him.

The lawsuit does have some issues though in regards to getting a date wrong about Riddle's signing with WWE and how it portrays the partnership between WWE and EVOLVE since the inclusion of WWE as a defendant is the shakiest out of the group listed.

https://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/c...-evolve-322136
Sounds like the Kyros concussion lawsuit.
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The Cartwright lawsuit is barely anything like the Kyros lawsuit since what doomed that concussion lawsuit was it being way too ambiguous with the claims being made against WWE and Kyros having a history of filing frivolous lawsuits and acting very unprofessional on the job.

The reason WWE is the shakiest is due to them being a lot tougher challenger to prove against since the basis of her claims of them being complacent in Riddle's sexual abuse revolves around the weakest and easiest part of her lawsuit to take apart on WWE's end. Even if an amended lawsuit fixes and/or strengthens the EVOLVE connection, still going to be tough to beat WWE's legal machine. The dates in question are the easiest to resolve in an amended lawsuit since they are only off by a bit.

Had Riddle not filed a civil lawsuit against her, I doubt she would have even filed this one against Riddle and others. Riddle's prior legal case involving the restraining order against her got torn to pieces by her lawyer and the general feeling was had Riddle gone to court over it, he was going to lose badly.
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Why would WarnerMedia or TNT even consider dumping AEW since both have been praising the company a lot for the numbers and consistent high rankings they've been giving to the network compared to what TNT used to get on Wednesdays during that time slot.

Also WarnerMedia already mentioned they have long term expansion plans in place for AEW with their other properties.

Just because you hate AEW doesn't mean what you suggested is a bright idea. If anything, probably would just hurt TNT way more since your asking for them to spend a lot of money to start up their own promotion when ITV already proved that's not a wise idea for a network to do or assume they can even find another company that would produce similar results as AEW when that's less likely to happen.
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Why would WarnerMedia or TNT even consider dumping AEW since both have been praising the company a lot for the numbers and consistent high rankings they've been giving to the network compared to what TNT used to get on Wednesdays during that time slot.

Also WarnerMedia already mentioned they have long term expansion plans in place for AEW with their other properties.

Just because you hate AEW doesn't mean what you suggested is a bright idea. If anything, probably would just hurt TNT way more since your asking for them to spend a lot of money to start up their own promotion when ITV already proved that's not a wise idea for a network to do or assume they can even find another company that would produce similar results as AEW when that's less likely to happen.
The answer was in my last post. Because they're probably doing utter shit when it comes to ad revenue. Companies don't usually come out and say that shit, but there's no actual evidence that they are genuinely happy (other than people interpreting PR talk and spin the way they like) or that AEW is actually doing that well.

Being "top five" means shit if you're not making the network mint.

Let's say they licensed some ROH content off Sinclair for $20 million a year. They'd save $25 million on rights and could also keep twice as much ad revenue. Get Sinclair to front the costs for Brock Lesnar, CM Punk and Ronda Rousey (in a few months). How does that hurt them? Because they don't have Silly Billy Chris Jericho on their show anymore? Pfft. He'd jump ship if given the chance anyway.

WarnerMedia can announce expansion plans all they want. They announced expansion plans and then they announced they are culling their fucking ranks.
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So your bright idea is for TNT to replace AEW with an even more niche of a company and get a notorious penny pinching owner to spend millions on a few part-timers that won't help the company in the long run. That's assuming Sinclair can even get two of those 3 since I seriously doubt WWE would let a rival easily snag Lesnar and Rousey.

Whatever savings they get from ad revenues splits is going to evaporate afterwards if ROH doesn't maintain what AEW had been doing for TV numbers.
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Going to watch just Janela's Spring Break 4 and Bloodsport 3 shows from the Collective set of shows.
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So your bright idea is for TNT to replace AEW with an even more niche of a company and get a notorious penny pinching owner to spend millions on a few part-timers that won't help the company in the long run. That's assuming Sinclair can even get two of those 3 since I seriously doubt WWE would let a rival easily snag Lesnar and Rousey.

Whatever savings they get from ad revenues splits is going to evaporate afterwards if ROH doesn't maintain what AEW had been doing for TV numbers.
It’s only “more niche” because it doesn’t have the exposure. AEW doesn’t scrape 850k viewers because it is good content. It’s because the Khans’ capital bought their way to #2. You’re entire premise of the criticism is flawed, but nice try.

Brock Lesnar, CM Punk and Ronda Rousey wouldn’t help a company long-term? You’ve been smoking the Meltzer plant for too long. Of course they would fucking help. You put Brock Lesnar vs. anybody, CM Punk vs. anybody and Ronda Rousey vs. anybody on a PPV and you’ve made three stars bigger than anyone in AEW overnight. And you know that. You’re just a mark for the smark snark.

Any wrestling product would draw as well (or as badly) as AEW. It would probably be smarter to replace it with something that isn’t wrestling, because you’d get more ad revenue out of it in the first place.
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Maybe The Rock could bankroll this company with Lesnar, Punk, and Rousey. Maybe they could get Jacob Fatu in (is he still in your/Cornette’s good graces?) and they could take over the world?
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Even for The Rock, Lesnar might be way too pricey of a talent to get for a new promotion. Based on some numbers that floated around, Lesnar got somewhere around $12 million just from his last year with WWE. Based on reports of how he does business dealings, not going to get him for any cheaper than what he's been getting paid by WWE.

For some comparison, Noid once suggested for NJPW to hire Lesnar to a contract despite Lesnar making around a third of what NJPW makes in an entire year for net revenues.
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Lol, yeah. Silly me, predicting that The Rock might get into the live entertainment. It's not like he then went on to buy a currently defunct football league or anything.

Brock Lesnar has a WWE asking price. I'd have a very high asking price too if I had to go out and perform in such a boring environment. New Japan absolutely could have made an offer to Brock. The increase you could potentially see in business could provide future dividends. Sinclair are a multi-billion dollar entity. If they wanted to, they could offer Brock every bit of $12 million to appear for a few PPVs and use that to segue into a cable TV deal that blows AEW out of the water. Those rights fees can add revenue streams while they don't actually have to lose what ROH already brings them (in fact, it'd likely become more popular).

MLW don't have much capital themselves, but they are connected to entities that desperately want (in some cases, need to expand). Signing wrestling stars to perform on their wrestling properties so they can increase their revenue from their wrestling makes sense. If DAZN and BeIN Sports split the costs of a few Lesnar dates between them, having Brock on their content could potentially allow a network deal of even just $25 million to be made, which covers Brock and allows MLW to make the big plays to future talent to also draw people in. This goes to DAZN's specials and the BeIN ratings too.

There is definitely room in the world for a new default #2 promotion. AEW is only there because the Khans had the money and the connections to sign Jericho and JR and get the TNT deal before any content was actually produced. Tell me I'm lying, lol. Since then, they've signed NO real stars (Luke Harper, Matt Hardy and The Revival don't really count as being on that level). It's been a bust in terms of the potential. If anything else comes along, it's got a real good shot at supplanting AEW, as long as it actually has the platform to compete. If TNT wants wrestling, they'd probably prefer that wrestling over #3. I just cut out the middle-man there.

Rock puts $7 million into a wrestling promotion and you don't think there is anyone with money out there that isn't going to cover the rest of the bases to get something off the ground? And you don't think Dwayne fucking Johnson -- the biggest star in Hollywood right now, and the guy who turned ripped people hitting watermelons with hammers or whatever into a 3 million viewer hit on NBC -- isn't going to be able to walk out of an interview with some TV executives with a giant sack of TV rights money? It's literally a license to print thanks to where television is right now.

May 2021. That's the ideal announcement time. Because that's when Ronda Rousey gets out of her WWE deal (which they could possibly elongate because of her time off if they know in advance). It's also sweeps time and upfronts. Imagine The Rock showing up at one with Ronda and showing a promo for his new wrestling promotion to launch over the summer or whatever. Instant storm of attention.

ROH and MLW getting major cash flow injections is the other. Sinclair and DAZN want to play. You need to pay to play. But any of these things pisses all over the vanity project on TNT.
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I got the whole package. Atticus Cogar almost got his ear cut off by a light tube earlier in the main event of the first show.

Also had a syringe put through his neck...
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Yikes. Did they stop the match to attend to his ear injury or he just went ahead with things as is?

Stuff like syringes and blade boards are the things I like the least about deathmatches and indie style hardcore matches. With syringes, its mostly because I don't like needles in general.
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The ref held Colby corino back a little bit longer than normal but other than that nothing.

SUP show was really good and prob should've opened the day. Lee Moriarty vs Daniel Makabe was a really good move for move technical contest
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Alex Shelley vs lee moriarty vs Tre Lamar from aiw is match of the weekend so far. One of the best 3 ways in recent times
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AIW show from the collective was a banger. The no rope barbed wire match was insane. I think Matthew justice got legit knocked out by a chair shot to the head. Awesome stuff, new favorite match of the weekend.

Fell asleep before For The Culture, watching it now. So far its an Indy spotfest show.
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For the culture was a good 3 matches. Ach vs lee moriartt was match of the show
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