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Old 01-21-2021, 09:40 AM   #58761
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Of course, he apparently didn't criticize the booking. Just the wrestlers.
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Old 01-21-2021, 09:42 AM   #58762
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Could you imagine 1997/1998 Steve Austin fanboying over 2021 Steve Austin and taking a stunner?

Okay that sounds ridiculous. But imagine Greg Valentine came back for a legend's night back in 1998, and Steve Austin bumped for him.

That's pretty much main problem with WWE. Obviously, it's a symptom. But they book their guys like a bunch of simps for the company. While I understand how some wrestlers "loving wrestling" growing up is cool, but not everyone should be like that. There should be some nasty dudes who do it for a paycheck. Some guys who don't care about history and want to be the best. And none of them should be intimidated by 87-year-old Undertaker.
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Old 01-21-2021, 10:18 AM   #58763
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That's because Vince doesn't want to run the risk of anybody ever becoming bigger than the brand ever again.
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Old 01-21-2021, 10:20 AM   #58764
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I get that. And it has some amount of logic to it, I guess, in a twisted way.

But there's got to be another way of doing it besides making everyone the punkest of bitches. I guess at least Roman seems cool now.
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Old 01-21-2021, 12:14 PM   #58765
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It took them long enough with Roman. This is what people have wanted for ages. Trying to force him through as a white meat babyface was cringe.
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Old 01-21-2021, 12:24 PM   #58766
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Old 01-21-2021, 12:41 PM   #58767
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Sure as fuck isn't wrong!
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:17 PM   #58768
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He is very right. They are missing most of their true maulers, that's for sure. Braun out, Brock not signed, Joe announcing. Neither Drew or Roman are working that style. They need like 4 more Sheamus clones like from Multiplicity to really ramp it up.
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:18 PM   #58769
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Taker also said he used to roid up
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:40 PM   #58770
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DSOTR doing an episode on Kanyon this season reportedly.
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Old 01-21-2021, 03:18 PM   #58771
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Old 01-21-2021, 03:18 PM   #58772
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There's a lot I don't know about Kanyon so I'm interested in that.
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Old 01-21-2021, 03:36 PM   #58773
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Old 01-21-2021, 03:46 PM   #58774
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No surprise there. Imagine what HGH would have/could do for his body.
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Old 01-21-2021, 04:00 PM   #58775
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There's a lot I don't know about Kanyon so I'm interested in that.
It's a really sad story. I won't spoil anything.
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Old 01-21-2021, 04:42 PM   #58776
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I haven't listened much yet but I'll never forget that chair shot Taker gave him on that episode of Smackdown.
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Old 01-21-2021, 05:29 PM   #58777
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He fucking crushed him with that shot
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Old 01-21-2021, 05:51 PM   #58778
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Will never forget Heyman standing by the Smackdown set and saying "He's a human being!"
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Old 01-21-2021, 06:05 PM   #58779
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The chair shot was because Kanyon had finally come out to the locker room right? He wanted to go public with it and WWE said no and then booked Taker to beat the shit out of him?
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Old 01-21-2021, 06:16 PM   #58780
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That can’t be true.
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Old 01-21-2021, 06:29 PM   #58781
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Here’s how David Bixenspan describes it from his review of Kanyon’s book:

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After years of desperately trying to stay closeted (aside from confiding in his best friend, Jim Mitchell), Kanyon decided in late 2001 to come out within wrestling and pitched an angle where he'd essentially be himself, a non-stereotypical, openly gay wrestler. His friends liked the idea, but it got no support from the WWE creative team.

After a series of injuries sidelined him, he got back into ring shape in WWE developmental territory (OVW) and was set to return on the February 15th, 2003 episode of SmackDown. When he got to the TV taping, he learned that he would be returning in an in-ring segment as part of the feud between The Undertaker and the Big Show.

As a "gift" from Big Show, Kanyon would come out of a giant box (closet?) dressed as Boy George, sing "Do You Really Want To Hurt Me?" to Undertaker and get beaten up by him. Kanyon had his qualms, especially since it came off as a vote of no confidence for his idea for a gay gimmick, but felt he had to go along with the angle.

If it was bad enough that the segment was seemingly designed to embarrass him and put him in his place, but it got worse—much worse. While he was the long-time "locker room leader" of WWE and ostensibly a safe veteran wrestler, The Undertaker was clearly reckless in beating Kanyon with the chair, concussing him with the hardest shot to the head you'll ever see.
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I guess it could be coincidental. But I dunno it sure sounds like it. Maybe I’m reading too much into it.
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Bix tends to read too much into things
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Old 01-21-2021, 06:55 PM   #58783
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Also I about shat myself that Ryan Clark wrote Kanyon’s book

But it’s not that Ryan Clark. It’s a better one.
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The chair shot was because Kanyon had finally come out to the locker room right? He wanted to go public with it and WWE said no and then booked Taker to beat the shit out of him?
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Old 01-22-2021, 12:39 AM   #58786
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This seems big potentially

Do NHL or Nascar run on Monday nights?
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Super rare does NASCAR run on a weekday. Usually due to a weather delay or something.

NHL is everyday.
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Old 01-22-2021, 04:31 PM   #58791
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Interesting.

I could see NXT getting bumped from time to time but I have to think USA Network would be hesitant to bump RAW.
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Old 01-22-2021, 06:55 PM   #58792
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Fuuuuuuuuuuck. The Premier League on NBC Sports was the best sports broadcast in America
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nhl may but nascar is sunday and sat, thats big for usa getting nascar, but i bet the big races will stay on the big nbc.
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OTIS needs to appear on NASCAR to cross promote
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more likely drivers will appear on raw kind of like when kyle petty was in the nwo
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Didn't some NASCAR guys guest host RAW a few times?
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