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Old 07-14-2021, 04:59 AM   #60481
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Old 07-14-2021, 08:16 AM   #60482
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Old 07-14-2021, 04:50 PM   #60483
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Old 07-14-2021, 04:54 PM   #60484
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Lmaooo yes let’s blame the fans. Sound logic.
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Old 07-14-2021, 05:59 PM   #60485
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Lol Im pretty sure Destor is part of the “blame the fans” crowd based on past conversations. He’d be a good person to grill about that logic.
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Old 07-14-2021, 06:31 PM   #60486
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If WWE listened to fans, indie darlings like Kyle O'Reilly and Cesaro would be multi time champions. There's a reason they do not heed the masses.
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AEW "listens to the fans" and that's why their numbers are stagnant. They cater to their fans.

Fucking Zack Ryder would be 5x world champ if the WWE did that.
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Old 07-14-2021, 08:53 PM   #60488
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WWE does listen to fans. They just half-ass it. And that’s why their numbers are falling. Kofi Kingston is a former world champion.

I’d respect them more if they just committed to saying “Fuck the hardcores. We’re focusing on mainstream appeal.”

Instead they try to appeal to everyone at any given time and it ends up appealing to no one.
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Old 07-14-2021, 09:13 PM   #60489
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AEW "listens to the fans" and that's why their numbers are stagnant. They cater to their fans.

Fucking Zack Ryder would be 5x world champ if the WWE did that.
I'd rather sit through 10 Triple H reigns of terror.
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Old 07-14-2021, 09:25 PM   #60490
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WWE does listen to fans. They just half-ass it. And that’s why their numbers are falling. Kofi Kingston is a former world champion.

I’d respect them more if they just committed to saying “Fuck the hardcores. We’re focusing on mainstream appeal.”

Instead they try to appeal to everyone at any given time and it ends up appealing to no one.

Kofi's ascension wasn't entirely organic. Fans weren't clamoring for a Kofi Kingston title run until he was chosen to replace Ali in the elimination chamber match. The push began in February and culminated in April when he won the belt. It's not even in the same league as that of Daniel Bryan's rise. There was no sustained uproar after Kingston lost the title to Brock. The fans like to pretend that they care. It was merely a business decision for an obvious reason. Just like the smackdown women's championship match at this year's Wrestlemania event.
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Old 07-15-2021, 05:39 AM   #60491
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I think this is pretty true, no wrestling fan wants WWE to put on a bad show and it's generally frustrating they've been so all over the place for the last decade.
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Old 07-15-2021, 07:35 AM   #60492
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Welcome to about 5 years ago. Fans say that and they want to see themselves as honest, but the truth is they have really fucked up ideas about what works and doesn’t work. They still have markish responses to the product that they think they are smarter than, and they react as contrarians to a lot of shit.

It doesn’t absolve WWE if their more egregious shit. They’re largely responsible for this climate, where voices that just want to enjoy wrestling are drowned out by people who think that their opinions are good or developed enough to warrant being heard. They ran off normal fans. But fans are not these unbiased arbiters of quality either. They will choose Zack Ryder over John Cena like it’s a good idea. They will lie about how over something is or isn’t. They want a product for their obsessive ego. You kind of have to move past that fan and the people in that circle who empower these really zonkers dispositions.
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Old 07-15-2021, 01:04 PM   #60493
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Laughing Virgil created the NWO guys....
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“I think I made Hulk Hogan’s whole career,” Virgil expressed. “Ted Turner and I put together the nWo. I got paid all day. I was like a moving reindeer. It was Too Sweet Meatsauce week. Olive Garden gave me a special order with Eric Bischoff because they love me that much. They put out a restraining order on Eric Bischoff because he followed me to Olive Garden. I guess he wanted a bunch more meatsauce or something. He’s obsessed with me because I’m the Meatsauce King.”


Virgil continued, “I was the original member coming in. It was Hulk, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Ted DiBiase, myself and X-Pac.”


Before joining WCW, Virgil spent nearly a decade in the WWF. He revealed a move that a future WWE Hall of Famer would be known for throughout their career.


“I kicked Alex Wright’s ass in a dance off in a parking garage, and I put my foot up in his ass,” Virgil recalled. “He was talking s**t like he could out dance me. I had the dance off, and I shoved my foot up his ass. I invented the dance called the Spinaroonee. Disco Inferno had a spin off. He spun on the ground like a donkey, and then I spanked his ass.”


Virgil then went on to talk about his new mobile game “Meatsauce Madness”. Discussing what fans can expect from the game.


“I’m the prototype. I played it for hours,” Virgil said. “I went into a food coma playing. I went to Olive Garden playing it.


Fans can expect all of it when you guzzle the beef. I think you might have been guzzling some beef. Look at you. [Virgil does a horse impression]. I guzzled so much I got garlic nipples. I’m a unicorn. All the game is my favorite part, from the platform to the end. I love it all.”

it's a real game Meatsauce Madness
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Old 07-15-2021, 02:47 PM   #60494
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Old 07-15-2021, 03:12 PM   #60495
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What's amazing is the fookin meatsauce! MOAR SAUCE!
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Old 07-15-2021, 03:52 PM   #60496
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There's still loads of tickets for the MSG SmackDown, which is actually being billed as a "SuperShow" with Raw.

I would normally laugh at the Garden not being an instant sellout but just looking at the obscene prices it's not particularly surprising.
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Old 07-15-2021, 06:07 PM   #60497
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People can make all the excuses they want but any wrestling show outdrawing WWE in any demo on any night of the week is a testament to how badly WWE has sat on the ball and butchered their monopoly on the business. They should be so far ahead that this shouldn’t even be a discussion.

People who say AEW viewers are a niche audience whose only fans are the nerdiest of wrestling nerds are exactly right... And that’s why WWE should be embarrassed. They won a war and then took 20 years off and it’s showing.
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Plans have apparently changed big time for SummerSlam

SPOILER: show


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Plans have apparently changed big time for SummerSlam

SPOILER: show


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And to think I was mildly interested in a Lashley match at summer slam. Yawn.
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I love the promo even though no way it flies under the radar today
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Coach was a great character
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He really was. I loved his rivalry with the Rock. Coach was perfect as the constantly failing foil.
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Old 07-15-2021, 10:40 PM   #60508
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Loved him with Bischoff
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Old 07-15-2021, 10:53 PM   #60509
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Coach was the sports anchor on my local ABC station before WWE and I remember being really shocked when WWE hired him bc he was really bland...but then he had so much more personality in WWE than he ever did doing local sports.
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Old 07-16-2021, 08:30 AM   #60510
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Wrestling Twitter: talk themselves into the final MITB participant being Becky, Sasha, or Sonya

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Old 07-16-2021, 08:42 AM   #60511
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Admittedly I've only watched SD since Mania so I have no idea what's happening on RAW or NXT right now. But who besides Asuka could believably win that?
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Old 07-16-2021, 08:43 AM   #60512
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I guess it doesn't have to be believable. But a lot of times with these matches I think "there's no way this person is winning."

With that lineup I can say that about almost all of them lol
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Old 07-16-2021, 09:46 AM   #60513
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Admittedly I've only watched SD since Mania so I have no idea what's happening on RAW or NXT right now. But who besides Asuka could believably win that?
Carmella, Liv Morgan, Alexa, Nikki A.S.H. ("Almost a Super Hero"...yeah, I don't know why they're doing the gimmick either but she's been on a win streak for a while now, so...).
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Old 07-16-2021, 10:05 AM   #60514
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Given her gimmick, Alexa Bliss should be able to hypnotize everyone and win the match effortlessly but that won’t happen because reasons.
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Old 07-16-2021, 11:00 AM   #60515
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First look at new SD set, looks like it will be a big tron, ala WM35, but arena-sized
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Old 07-16-2021, 11:45 AM   #60516
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Goldberg is now the age Terry Funk was when he was a crazy old man in 1998. Bobby Lashley is the same age Bob Backlund was when he was a crazy old man in 1995.
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Old 07-16-2021, 11:47 AM   #60517
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I wonder what happened here

No reschedule date and Georgia is (obviously) a very good market for wrestling
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Old 07-16-2021, 12:11 PM   #60518
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USA Network...hmmm

Chucky going to do some promo work on RAW perhaps?
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Old 07-16-2021, 12:39 PM   #60519
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RAW being down 35% overall and 44% in 18-49 *should* be alarming to WWE...
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I wonder what happened here

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can't even sell out smackdown in atlanta that is bad
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