07-14-2021, 04:59 AM | #60481 |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,781
|
|
07-14-2021, 08:16 AM | #60482 |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,781
|
|
07-14-2021, 04:50 PM | #60483 |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,781
|
|
07-14-2021, 04:54 PM | #60484 |
Posts: 10,642
|
Lmaooo yes let’s blame the fans. Sound logic.
|
07-14-2021, 05:59 PM | #60485 |
Resident drug enabler
Posts: 45,473
|
Lol Im pretty sure Destor is part of the “blame the fans” crowd based on past conversations. He’d be a good person to grill about that logic.
|
07-14-2021, 06:31 PM | #60486 |
wrestling forum account
Posts: 290
|
If WWE listened to fans, indie darlings like Kyle O'Reilly and Cesaro would be multi time champions. There's a reason they do not heed the masses.
|
07-14-2021, 08:19 PM | #60487 |
Best Poster
Posts: 56,950
|
AEW "listens to the fans" and that's why their numbers are stagnant. They cater to their fans.
Fucking Zack Ryder would be 5x world champ if the WWE did that. |
07-14-2021, 08:53 PM | #60488 |
Resident drug enabler
Posts: 45,473
|
WWE does listen to fans. They just half-ass it. And that’s why their numbers are falling. Kofi Kingston is a former world champion.
I’d respect them more if they just committed to saying “Fuck the hardcores. We’re focusing on mainstream appeal.” Instead they try to appeal to everyone at any given time and it ends up appealing to no one. |
07-14-2021, 09:13 PM | #60489 |
wrestling forum account
Posts: 290
|
|
07-14-2021, 09:25 PM | #60490 | |
wrestling forum account
Posts: 290
|
Quote:
Kofi's ascension wasn't entirely organic. Fans weren't clamoring for a Kofi Kingston title run until he was chosen to replace Ali in the elimination chamber match. The push began in February and culminated in April when he won the belt. It's not even in the same league as that of Daniel Bryan's rise. There was no sustained uproar after Kingston lost the title to Brock. The fans like to pretend that they care. It was merely a business decision for an obvious reason. Just like the smackdown women's championship match at this year's Wrestlemania event. |
|
07-15-2021, 05:39 AM | #60491 |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,781
|
I think this is pretty true, no wrestling fan wants WWE to put on a bad show and it's generally frustrating they've been so all over the place for the last decade.
|
07-15-2021, 07:35 AM | #60492 |
Posts: 61,119
|
Welcome to about 5 years ago. Fans say that and they want to see themselves as honest, but the truth is they have really fucked up ideas about what works and doesn’t work. They still have markish responses to the product that they think they are smarter than, and they react as contrarians to a lot of shit.
It doesn’t absolve WWE if their more egregious shit. They’re largely responsible for this climate, where voices that just want to enjoy wrestling are drowned out by people who think that their opinions are good or developed enough to warrant being heard. They ran off normal fans. But fans are not these unbiased arbiters of quality either. They will choose Zack Ryder over John Cena like it’s a good idea. They will lie about how over something is or isn’t. They want a product for their obsessive ego. You kind of have to move past that fan and the people in that circle who empower these really zonkers dispositions. |
07-15-2021, 01:04 PM | #60493 | |
In His hands...
Posts: 25,281
|
Virgil created the NWO guys....
Quote:
it's a real game Meatsauce Madness |
|
07-15-2021, 02:47 PM | #60494 |
Hey Mister!
Posts: 54,947
|
lol amazing
|
07-15-2021, 03:12 PM | #60495 |
In His hands...
Posts: 25,281
|
What's amazing is the fookin meatsauce! MOAR SAUCE!
|
07-15-2021, 03:52 PM | #60496 |
President of Freedonia
Posts: 58,215
|
There's still loads of tickets for the MSG SmackDown, which is actually being billed as a "SuperShow" with Raw.
I would normally laugh at the Garden not being an instant sellout but just looking at the obscene prices it's not particularly surprising. |
07-15-2021, 06:07 PM | #60497 |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,781
|
|
07-15-2021, 06:24 PM | #60498 |
Resident drug enabler
Posts: 45,473
|
People can make all the excuses they want but any wrestling show outdrawing WWE in any demo on any night of the week is a testament to how badly WWE has sat on the ball and butchered their monopoly on the business. They should be so far ahead that this shouldn’t even be a discussion.
People who say AEW viewers are a niche audience whose only fans are the nerdiest of wrestling nerds are exactly right... And that’s why WWE should be embarrassed. They won a war and then took 20 years off and it’s showing. |
07-15-2021, 07:05 PM | #60500 |
wrestling forum account
Posts: 290
|
98 years
|
07-15-2021, 07:14 PM | #60502 |
Tongue my Fartbox
Posts: 5,363
|
|
07-15-2021, 08:17 PM | #60503 |
Posts: 10,642
|
I love the promo even though no way it flies under the radar today
|
07-15-2021, 08:35 PM | #60504 |
wrestling forum account
Posts: 290
|
|
07-15-2021, 09:03 PM | #60505 |
Posts: 10,642
|
The Rock selling that clothesline like he was shot out of a cannon
|
07-15-2021, 09:22 PM | #60506 |
Best Poster
Posts: 56,950
|
Coach was a great character
|
07-15-2021, 09:48 PM | #60507 |
Posts: 10,642
|
He really was. I loved his rivalry with the Rock. Coach was perfect as the constantly failing foil.
|
07-15-2021, 10:40 PM | #60508 |
Best Poster
Posts: 56,950
|
Loved him with Bischoff
|
07-15-2021, 10:53 PM | #60509 |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,781
|
Coach was the sports anchor on my local ABC station before WWE and I remember being really shocked when WWE hired him bc he was really bland...but then he had so much more personality in WWE than he ever did doing local sports.
|
07-16-2021, 08:30 AM | #60510 |
President of Freedonia
Posts: 58,215
|
Wrestling Twitter: talk themselves into the final MITB participant being Becky, Sasha, or Sonya
WWE:
|
07-16-2021, 08:42 AM | #60511 |
Shelly Martinez = Ratings
Posts: 23,588
|
Admittedly I've only watched SD since Mania so I have no idea what's happening on RAW or NXT right now. But who besides Asuka could believably win that?
|
07-16-2021, 08:43 AM | #60512 |
Shelly Martinez = Ratings
Posts: 23,588
|
I guess it doesn't have to be believable. But a lot of times with these matches I think "there's no way this person is winning."
With that lineup I can say that about almost all of them lol |
07-16-2021, 09:46 AM | #60513 |
#R.I.P.U.S.A.
Posts: 35,439
|
Carmella, Liv Morgan, Alexa, Nikki A.S.H. ("Almost a Super Hero"...yeah, I don't know why they're doing the gimmick either but she's been on a win streak for a while now, so...).
|
07-16-2021, 10:05 AM | #60514 |
President of Freedonia
Posts: 58,215
|
Given her gimmick, Alexa Bliss should be able to hypnotize everyone and win the match effortlessly but that won’t happen because reasons.
|
07-16-2021, 11:00 AM | #60515 |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,781
|
First look at new SD set, looks like it will be a big tron, ala WM35, but arena-sized
|
07-16-2021, 11:45 AM | #60516 |
President of Freedonia
Posts: 58,215
|
Goldberg is now the age Terry Funk was when he was a crazy old man in 1998. Bobby Lashley is the same age Bob Backlund was when he was a crazy old man in 1995.
|
07-16-2021, 11:47 AM | #60517 |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,781
|
I wonder what happened here
No reschedule date and Georgia is (obviously) a very good market for wrestling
|
07-16-2021, 12:11 PM | #60518 |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,781
|
USA Network...hmmm
Chucky going to do some promo work on RAW perhaps?
|
07-16-2021, 12:39 PM | #60519 |
Trickster Demon
Posts: 59,781
|
RAW being down 35% overall and 44% in 18-49 *should* be alarming to WWE...
|
07-16-2021, 12:41 PM | #60520 | |
king of sucks
Posts: 4,414
|
Quote:
|
|