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Old 11-29-2021, 09:20 PM   #62281
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Well he didn't win the main NXT title.
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Old 11-29-2021, 10:09 PM   #62282
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Old 11-30-2021, 10:10 AM   #62283
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Old 11-30-2021, 11:45 AM   #62284
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New Jarrett Pro Wrestling could easily be a sleeper hit of a company if they are able to get their hooks into some kind of legit distribution deal.

WWF back when they ran 5 PPV's and all their shows were pre taped had about 40-50 wrestlers signed at any given time on average.

There is so much viable recognizable talent out there it's silly not to give it a go.

I'm not totally certain there is anyway another company would oud draw WWE and AEW in live gates and ratings but if the new company was just looking to be a profitable wrestling buisness then I can see it potentially working.

Funny saying this as ROH is dying and Impact is smaller than ever in every way and seemingly knocking on deaths door (as always).

Those brands have ruined themselves and I don't think they have any chance of revival. It's gotta be new. I keep thinking Jarrett could run the old Memphis circuit but modified with research and potentially build an audience for a promotion, but those days are so far behind I don't think redoing a territory 100% would connect with a lot of people.
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Old 11-30-2021, 12:59 PM   #62285
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if the new company was just looking to be a profitable wrestling buisness then I can see it potentially working.
So the opposite of AEW then
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Old 11-30-2021, 02:14 PM   #62286
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We don't really know what AEW's profit margin is, only speculation. AEW definitely went into FULL GEAR when they got the TV extension, hoping to bring a REVOLUTION to the wrestling buisness. Latley they are hiring many stars and truly going ALL OUT to make as big of a splash as possible. You could even say that it will be DOUBLE OR NOTHING once the latest TV deal starts renegotiations.
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We don't really know what AEW's profit margin is, only speculation. AEW definitely went into FULL GEAR when they got the TV extension, hoping to bring a REVOLUTION to the wrestling buisness. Latley they are hiring many stars and truly going ALL OUT to make as big of a splash as possible. You could even say that it will be DOUBLE OR NOTHING once the latest TV deal starts renegotiations.
Naw, by 2024 their average aged fan will be older than the demo. How valuable will they be drawing 900,000 viewers with a low demo?
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Old 11-30-2021, 04:12 PM   #62288
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Impact with an all-time low viewership of 48,000 viewers and a .01 in 18 to 49 (13,000 viewers)
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So they can quadruple Dynamite's ratings instead of triple?
And somehow Raw will still be the one failing and needing help, while AEW is on its way to the moon.

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Naw, by 2024 their average aged fan will be older than the demo. How valuable will they be drawing 900,000 viewers with a low demo?
Lol, this is actually a very good point. They are actually going to have a lot of viewers slip into the older demo. I’ve been critical of the idea of putting so much weight on the demos for cable in this era, but the only thing AEW really has to “brag” about is that demo. When you take that strength away and you’ve got a lot more people in a still weak 50+ and a slimmer 18-49, and still don’t have any women, what good are you?

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Wrestling is drying the fuck up. With AEW coming along, there are three more hours of wrestling on national television a week, plus the countless they do for Dark and Elevation. You also had NXT go national. That’s another hour or two, depending on whether or not you count the previously established hour.

This is not good for wrestling. I’ve been saying that since the start as people yell at me for not seeing how TK has been anything but a bonus for wrestling and wrestling fans.

If the product was good, it could be a thing where all tides rise, and help the genre’s popularity overall. Like when a style of music catches on, or superhero films become trendy. But the thing is, the evidence states that this stuff is not demonstrably a hit when it comes to creating new fans. It is stretching the current fan-base as far as it can go, beyond dedication and sustainability. And the products cool off, due to exposure and an inconsequential context to their content, and they fans themselves have less and less investment.

ROH took a major blow. Impact Wrestling is scraping scary new lows. AEW is not growing, no matter how anybody lies to you. WWE is even hitting new lows. Throwing new wrestling into the mix is going to run into the problem it has to compete with so much. And the established stuff needs to compete with it. But the hope would be that something good could stand out, strike hot, make fans en masse take notice and really demonstrate what other promotions haven’t been doing.

My concern is that I’m not actually sure the star power is out there if you remove AEW from the equation. I’ve assumed that AEW wrestlers could just ask for a release and get it, but would they? Danielson and Punk signed with this company in the first place. The best chance was recently when Danielson, Punk, Lesnar and Samoa Joe were free agents. Before that, it was that 2018/2019 period where AEW was starting up, and Danielson, Punk, Mysterio, Steen, Orton, Usos, Styles, Nakamura, Moxley and a few others were either initially free or had their deals come up. Right now, who do you really have? Adam Scherr and Windham Rotunda? John Hennigan? I guess Styles, Nakamura and Steen are about to have their deals come up.

And let’s just say you can poach Danielson, Punk, MJF, FTR, JR, etc. Are hardcore fans going to get excited about the new product or deride it for being predatory? You could let talent work AEW still (for a while), but that becomes an obstacle. In some ways, the best time to start up a new wrestling thing might be in 2024, or something. Depending on when Punk and Danielson’s deals are up. And MJF’s too. Is that when Jacob Fatu’s MLW thing is up too? Not that that would be too hard to get out of.

I dunno. I’m not even trying to be cynical. I’m the guy who was the most excited for AEW when it started. I’m the guy who was hoping that The Rock would start his own wrestling promotion, even before he bought the XFL. I’m not actually a negative person. But I am an honest person. And I don’t see how anyone can look at the landscape of wrestling right now and say “This is good!” If you love wrestling, I just think you should want it to be better, instead of making excuses for it when it is clearly not working.
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Old 11-30-2021, 09:07 PM   #62291
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As a fan, I've never had this much variety. There's something for everyone. It's fun to pick and choose. I'm no longer restricted to WWE programming.
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Old 12-01-2021, 11:32 AM   #62293
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I liked it when The Headhunters we're in WWF for a short time.

Since everyone is up in arms about NJPW did you guys see that Jarrett is now an owner of a minor league baseball team in a small Illinois city? Part of the deal is that he has to help fill the stadium on the 300 off days for the team. It was said he will promote carnivals, music and of course rasslin.

R A S S L I N that's rasslin. Maybe we can call it New Jarrett Pro Rasslin going forward.

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@Gertner - your tape trading may become insanely more valuable..... as WWE DVDs will no longer be a thing in 2022.




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It’s with a very heavy heart we must pass on the news to our readers that WWE DVDs and Blu-rays will no longer be offered in the United States beginning 2022.
WWE Home Video has had a physical media presence with DVDs since 1999, dating back further with VHS since 1985 (taking into account Coliseum Video). Over the years WWF/E would release their content on physical media via several formats; VHS, Betamax, Laserdisc, DVD, Blu-ray and even UMD.
The update sadly means 2021 will have been the last year for WWE Home Video in the home market, which includes Canada too since those releases were closely aligned with the US.
As for reasoning behind the move, while specifics haven’t been stated to us, the why is probably the obvious and in the end will boil down to revenue, coupled with the company putting less emphasis on DVD and Blu-ray in recent years and more of a focus on new content for the WWE Network and Peacock, whereby WWE content is streamed online.
The final releases

The first WWE DVDs ever released were WrestleMania 15 and one on Stone Cold Steve Austin.
As it stands now, Survivor Series 2021 will be the final US WWE DVD release, which will be available on December 28th. Drew McIntyre’s DVD is also still to come this month, which will mark the last Superstar-themed DVD release in the US, scheduled for December 14th.
Australia

Unfortunately, no more US offerings means the same for fans in Australia. Like Canada, the Australian WWE DVDs closely followed the US; WWE in the US produced assets and carried out authoring for both the domestic and Australian DVDs, which we hear will not be taken on by the Australian licensee.
Madman.com.au will be releasing the remaining PPV DVDs of 2021 though — Extreme Rules in December, Crown Jewel in February and Survivor Series, Australia’s final DVD, in March.
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There is a glimmer of hope in this otherwise not-so-festive December update — the UK appears to be carrying on alone with new WWE DVD titles in 2022, until March at least.
As we’ve reported, Fremantle have new PPV DVDs scheduled beyond Survivor Series, including Day 1 and Royal Rumble. That hasn’t changed. It’s unclear what happens after those, but potentially due to better performance of WWE DVDs in the UK and Europe, we may be seeing a situation whereby WWE Home Video actually continues on in that region (at least this is the hope).
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one thing they should consider is limited runs. sell them as collectors items by taking preorders for the large shows and only producing the quantity thats was prepaid and you could do that at a premium over the current price.
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I think they should consider VHS.

Recorded on EP.

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@Gertner - your tape trading may become insanely more valuable..... as WWE DVDs will no longer be a thing in 2022.
Haha I don't have any actual tapes. Just footage on an external hard drive. Lots and lots of footage.
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Aside from the Kevin Owens one, there hasn't been a single original DVD release in the almost 8 years since the WWE Network launched. It's either just a DVD of a doc that already aired on the Network, or just some random compilation of somebody's matches.

I wish they would just add more old docs to the Network.
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Brisco and Bradshaw's podcast might be the most enjoyable wrestling podcast around. Just listening to the Honky Tonk Man episode. What a fun listen.
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I read some of the talking points and skimmed through the episode. Truth be told, I don't think it's good for the wrestling podcast industry. Quite frankly it is undoing years of progress and pushing the industry back a few decades.
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Fandango has joined the NWA. Teaming with JTG it seems. Not a bad-sounding tag team but hopefully it’s just a stepping stone on his climb to being the face of the company he should have been a decade ago.
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Bring on the cocaine and steroids! Wooooo!!!!
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