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Old 04-25-2022, 05:41 PM   #64481
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Particularly O’Haire. He had everything and then they landed on those devils advocate skits. They wouldn’t have even been difficult to write for either. They could have had him cause friction in a tag team by getting in the ear of one of them and tempting him to go solo. So many possibilities with a gimmick like that and a very easy way to creat feuds and further other ones.

Then they threw him with Piper and made him dress in some sort of leather gimpsuit. It’s baffling even today. They were vignettes that you can remember vividly even today.
Cornette has spoken about this in the past. He’s said that if you see the vignettes you’d think you’re looking at one of the biggest stars in the wrestling industry. But when it came to his antics outside the ring, he just couldn’t get them under control. Cornette mentioned a brother “whose name is almost Sean” who would mouth off and constantly get Sean into trouble.

Plus, if you think about it, it’s hard to think of an actually good O’Haire or Jindrak match. They had that athleticism and they make for fun gifs now, but they both were pretty much just there on their best days.
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Old 04-25-2022, 05:59 PM   #64482
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How did WWE fuck those guys up?
Super easy, barely an inconvenience.
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Old 04-25-2022, 06:02 PM   #64483
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Considering how much of the roster is just tiny “flippy shit” athletic guys, O’Haire having that athletic ability PLUS size, PLUS some personality should have been a lock for at least a good stint in the upper midcard.
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Old 04-25-2022, 06:08 PM   #64484
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Just gonna casually ignore that thekrow stole our beloved Curtis's gimmick???


The KOTF should not stand for this treachery.......
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Old 04-25-2022, 06:11 PM   #64485
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Curtis isn’t around. I’ll allow it as a loving tribute.
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Old 04-25-2022, 06:19 PM   #64486
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Old 04-25-2022, 07:00 PM   #64487
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Old 04-25-2022, 07:03 PM   #64488
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I enjoyed that krow post but I got excited that Curtis was back
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Old 04-25-2022, 07:04 PM   #64489
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Old 04-25-2022, 07:08 PM   #64490
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Old 04-25-2022, 07:16 PM   #64491
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Old 04-25-2022, 07:33 PM   #64492
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Eric Bischoff then discussed people who compare the ratings online. In his opinion, the people that do that are just creating stats for a specific narrative. That is something he called Tony Khan out for, as Eric doesn’t see how AEW is competitive with WWE.
This is true. They will focus on archaic demos that work for them and ignore demos that don’t. They will ignore the stigma of wrestling, the global appeal of one product over another, and its content rating and how that affects ad rates. It’s Meltzer talk so he always had something for his newsletter on slow news weeks, and was largely used to trash WWE to sell those letters to disgruntled WWE fans — the ones you will find angry online looking to buy content outside WWE’s purview.

He’s carried the narrative into AEW, ignoring that their audience is largely going to age out of the “desirable” 18-49 demo by the time TV contract negotiations are through, and to focus on ways he can twist AEW into being a success when it’s just not as popular as the other product. Period.
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Old 04-25-2022, 07:38 PM   #64493
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Orange Cassidy is one of the main eventers on AEW.
He’s a true ratings mover. Who else gets spikes of a couple of thousand people? And we all know attention = approval.
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Old 04-25-2022, 09:55 PM   #64494
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Curtis sucked
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Old 04-25-2022, 09:58 PM   #64495
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you may be in constant contention for my favorite poster but i WILL put you on ignore and brag about it over this
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Old 04-25-2022, 09:59 PM   #64496
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I CAN JUST START FOLLOWING WCW DEEP CUTS MYSELF BUDDY
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Old 04-25-2022, 10:06 PM   #64497
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Lmfao I love both of you and will put you on ignore just to feel like I belong
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Old 04-25-2022, 10:19 PM   #64498
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Old 04-25-2022, 10:27 PM   #64501
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Old 04-25-2022, 11:02 PM   #64510
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Old 04-25-2022, 11:03 PM   #64511
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Old 04-25-2022, 11:22 PM   #64515
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Old 04-26-2022, 08:51 AM   #64518
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Cornette has spoken about this in the past. He’s said that if you see the vignettes you’d think you’re looking at one of the biggest stars in the wrestling industry. But when it came to his antics outside the ring, he just couldn’t get them under control. Cornette mentioned a brother “whose name is almost Sean” who would mouth off and constantly get Sean into trouble.

Plus, if you think about it, it’s hard to think of an actually good O’Haire or Jindrak match. They had that athleticism and they make for fun gifs now, but they both were pretty much just there on their best days.
It’s not as if guys with substance abuse issues weren’t pushed in the past in spite of that. But yeah, maybe it was just too great a burden in his case.

Like most guys in late WCW, he was just given his name and told to work. The vignettes suddenly gave a charismatic, athletic guy with a great look, direction and a catch. The vignettes were attention grabbing because he had real charisma too. There was definitely star power there.

It’s just sad that he wasn’t given the opportunity to debut the character as it was. I think it could have been so intriguing and he could have been a massive star.
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It’s not as if guys with substance abuse issues weren’t pushed in the past in spite of that. But yeah, maybe it was just too great a burden in his case.

Like most guys in late WCW, he was just given his name and told to work. The vignettes suddenly gave a charismatic, athletic guy with a great look, direction and a catch. The vignettes were attention grabbing because he had real charisma too. There was definitely star power there.

It’s just sad that he wasn’t given the opportunity to debut the character as it was. I think it could have been so intriguing and he could have been a massive star.
With O’Haire, I think it was more the violence and arrests. Or the situations that could have been arrests but someone things got smoothed over/covered up.

I get what you’re saying. I liked the vignettes too and got swept up in everyone thinking they were good too. But the guy couldn’t take it to actual live promos or his ring work. If he was destined to be such a big star, they would have found a way to make way more money off him. Heyman was behind these vignettes, yeah? This is like outside the myth that the WWE fucked everything up. Sean O’Haire was a guy with a look and a kind of presence in certain contexts that couldn’t deliver overall.
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Old 04-26-2022, 01:12 PM   #64520
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O'Haire, with the right work, could have been huge. He could work in the ring and showed he had charisma, and a great look.

If I recall, the first great big moment of his gimmick was convincing Spanky to streak through the arena. Then they teamed him up with Piper which just made him seem like a bitch.

He might have benefitted more in WWE by being teamed up with Jindrak again for a while until both developed more fleshed-out personalities. Aw well...
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