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Old 07-21-2022, 12:21 PM   #65681
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Murdoch vs. Murdoch.

What’s the deal with Aldis?
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Old 07-21-2022, 12:25 PM   #65682
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I hope this is just an angle. It would be nice to put Murdoch over in St. Louis, so hopefully they are just spreading the wealth and delaying Murdoch vs. Aldis.

Murdoch is so good. I didn’t appreciate him enough when he was in WWE. Real solid fucking talent. Not a bad choice for their World Champion. He’s missing something (credibility with indy nerds?), but I really like that it’s back on him.
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how are the briscos going to work for roh if thet are not going to be on tbs unless they have a tv deal somewhere else
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Old 07-21-2022, 04:17 PM   #65684
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how are the briscos going to work for roh if thet are not going to be on tbs unless they have a tv deal somewhere else

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The rumor is that Warner Bros Discovery want nothing to do with The Briscoes because of homophobic comments Jay made 10 years ago. If that is/was true, the idea of The Briscoes being involved with ROH going forward should it become featured on a WBD platform is unlikely. It’s possibly problematic even if ROH ends up elsewhere. You want to keep your lords and masters happy.

It’s possible that The Bucks were just jealous and didn’t want The Briscoes involved with AEW. There’s rumors they’re the ones behind Jay’s comments being brought to WBD in the first place.
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Old 07-21-2022, 11:45 PM   #65687
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The rumor is that Warner Bros Discovery want nothing to do with The Briscoes because of homophobic comments Jay made 10 years ago. If that is/was true, the idea of The Briscoes being involved with ROH going forward should it become featured on a WBD platform is unlikely. It’s possibly problematic even if ROH ends up elsewhere. You want to keep your lords and masters happy.

It’s possible that The Bucks were just jealous and didn’t want The Briscoes involved with AEW. There’s rumors they’re the ones behind Jay’s comments being brought to WBD in the first place.
I liked my theory better: Someone googled the Briscoes, found a recent promo where 80% of the content was the word "Fuck," and was like "Nope." But, it could also be the Bucks.
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There’s a good chance that has something to do with it. TBS and TNT are still television — aesthetics play a big part. All the swearing and “authenticity” might have been a turn-off. But I do wonder why they’d Google The Briscoes in the first place.
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So The Briscoes are apparently signed to ROH? It’s a good get for ROH, provided that the product doesn’t completely suck overall. I do not trust Tony Khan one bit, lol.

Briscoes vs. FTR and Claudio vs. Gresham should be top tier pro-wrestling. Should be. We’ll see.
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Old 07-22-2022, 12:28 AM   #65690
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The Righteous vs. Dalton Castle & The Boys has been added to DBD. I dunno. I’ve only see Bateman from The Righteous. He was…eh. Dalton Castle has a great entrance the first time you see it. But at least he’s an ROH guy that has been signed.
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I’m *pretty* sure MJF is going to be at Death Before Dishonor. I think Tony will want to have great wrestling matches (maybe a few MOTY candidates) and at least one great promo. MJF joining the ROH roster could be that.
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So The Briscoes are apparently signed to ROH? It’s a good get for ROH, provided that the product doesn’t completely suck overall. I do not trust Tony Khan one bit, lol.

Briscoes vs. FTR and Claudio vs. Gresham should be top tier pro-wrestling. Should be. We’ll see.
yeah you might like the new roh. i want to see what cornett has to say. they will tape there shows at universal, might be where the impact zone was, then get them put on the hbo max app
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Oh Vince Russo. You and your overbooked messes
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I was thinking about starting a thread discussing classic puroresu. Maybe what your favorite match is, or who your favorite/underrated wrestler is and why. I’ve been trying to watch a joshi match a night and extend that to watching something classic from somewhere to expand my cultural tastes.

I just watched Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Genichiro Tenryu from June 5, 1989. Absolutely brilliant how the match builds. I’ve loved what I’ve seen from Tenryu. He’s a name I’ve probably slept on because I’ve been more historically interested in the Four Pillars era of All Japan. So much I love about Tenryu. Even how he stands out by wearing the yellow trimming on his boots. It’s simple and not bombastic, but still makes him stand out.

Can everyone using a Powerbomb as a finish please take note from Tenryu? The way he has the move countered in his matches just makes you want to see it more. Of course his opponents avoid it like the plague. It just makes it the forbidden fruit of the match. The pop Tenryu gets when he hits one on Tsuruta in this match is huge. Lots of wrestlers have taken the idea of hitting multiple finishers in their “epic” matches. Not many have taken how important it is to build and that if you hit one of your finishers, you better get a heightened reaction for two or three.

The way Tsuruta and Tenryu make you want to see what they’re showing you. Brilliant. And when something works for a guy in the match, they try it again. It doesn’t feel repetitive so much as it feels like a guy exploiting the same weakness he perceives his opponent to have. I love it when a guy hits a move and if it doesn’t finish the match, his mentality is like “Well let’s see if you can take another one.” Too many guys get cute with arranging their matches to be these set pieces of counters to counters to counters that don’t come organically from what kayfabe strategy and moments the wrestlers find themselves in.

A hidden highlight of this sort of style, when I feel it is done right, is when the “flow” of the match kind of breaks because a guy is just clubbing the other guy because he hasn’t been beaten yet, so he’s got to come up with his next big move. It feels like their strategy has kind of been thrown out, and it all feels very organic. It’s all got that mentality of the guys are trying to win, and they’re selling just how tough the other guy is. And they will make mistakes and go the long way about doing things sometimes, which is a great in-built excuse for losing, if that’s the way the booking goes.

Absolutely sublime pro-wrestling.
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I love the post-match between those guys too.

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After Tenryu beats Tsuruta with the second Powerbomb — which is just brilliant — Tsuruta is right up in Tenryu’s face like he wants to shake hands after the loss. I love this because it’s what an egomaniacal top star probably would find themselves doing to try and take over a moment having lost. It’s like a kayfabe version of Hogan stealing the spotlight from Warrior at WrestleMania VI. It may be where Hogan got the idea from.
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Sascha and Bayley spotted together in Boston. SD is there tonight. Hmmmm.
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If there’s going to be a creative overhaul with Vince gone, Triple H has probably got the best chance of reaching out to Sasha and smoothing things over.
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There’s something about watching those All Japan women that works way better than so much other allegedly good pro-wrestling.
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Old 07-24-2022, 09:23 PM   #65710
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Old 07-25-2022, 05:31 AM   #65711
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Happy 42nd Birthday to Finn Balor.

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That would make an interesting retrospective look. Wrestlers who gave visual clues to them being pissed off. The Boo-Boo Face Collection.
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Old 07-25-2022, 02:14 PM   #65715
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That would make an interesting retrospective look. Wrestlers who gave visual clues to them being pissed off. The Boo-Boo Face Collection.
Eddie at One Night Stand for sure
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Old 07-25-2022, 02:41 PM   #65716
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Yeah Eddie jumps out. He'd just had a serious heel turn and now here he was having to work a show that, at the time, was viewed as mostly non-canon.

Made worse by the fact that Raw and SmackDown guys were sitting in the bleachers getting heat, therefore being the only "real heels" on the PPV.
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The greatest which was mentioned in the thread is Hercules jobbing to Sid in like 10 seconds at MSG in his final match. Just takes the powerbomb and walks out.
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Austin Aries is an obvious one that comes to mind. He’s done it twice, hasn’t he?

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