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Old 10-11-2022, 11:40 PM   #66721
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Old 10-11-2022, 11:52 PM   #66722
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Old 10-11-2022, 11:54 PM   #66723
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Old 10-12-2022, 12:00 AM   #66724
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We need to have a conversation about how we all let Bill Alphonso happen
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Old 10-12-2022, 12:09 AM   #66725
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Old 10-12-2022, 02:43 AM   #66726
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Old 10-12-2022, 03:19 AM   #66727
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Old 10-12-2022, 08:11 AM   #66728
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Heyman was the only guy who seemed to get Bigelow, and the only one who consistently booked him properly.
He was booked great in Memphis but yeah that's it
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Old 10-12-2022, 05:27 PM   #66729
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Going to seek out that Van Dam/Bigelow match.
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Old 10-13-2022, 08:43 PM   #66730
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The Rock is now referring to himself as the head of the table. And so it begins.
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Old 10-13-2022, 09:06 PM   #66731
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Going to seek out that Van Dam/Bigelow match.
have you not seen it? Damn. Lucky guy. Id love to watch it blind again
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Old 10-14-2022, 12:50 AM   #66732
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My friend was there for it. Still ranks it as one of his all time favorite matches he saw live.

I was supposed to go too, but my mom found out it wasn't a wwf event like I told her but ecw which she basically forbid me from watching lol
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Old 10-14-2022, 03:07 AM   #66733
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I will do my best to let it wash over my ignorant ass.
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Lol, she’s probably just mucking around. But I bet they haven’t lost her number.
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The Rock is now referring to himself as the head of the table. And so it begins.
I’m not ready to let myself believe.
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Old 10-14-2022, 07:56 AM   #66737
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Old 10-14-2022, 09:12 AM   #66738
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Gotta appreciate Akeem’s acting depth there. An American playing an African playing a German.

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Old 10-14-2022, 03:05 PM   #66739
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Old 10-14-2022, 03:53 PM   #66740
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I’d be down with that. Could really see it working. As long as she doesn’t wrestle or talk.
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Old 10-14-2022, 04:41 PM   #66741
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I’d be down with that. Could really see it working. As long as she doesn’t wrestle or talk.
She got people behind Doudrop. So there is a use for her.
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I’ve never been the biggest RVD fan, but those clips make it look amazing.
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Van Dam was the most exciting worker on the planet for 3-5 years. WWF didnt get him and they hand cuffed him creatively and athletically. They lost millions on mishandling him.
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He seemed like the best guy to try and take them forward in 2001. It was basically there for them to take and they just…didn’t.
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I never saw ECW so I never "got" RVD.... just seemed like a guy who was content to just "coast on his rep" for decades and never change/adapt... and his punches were terrible... not Shane McMahon level bad, but terrible....

I do have to admit that it must be some "rep" that he got in ECW because he did make a lengthy career of coasting on it.
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I never saw ECW so I never "got" RVD.... just seemed like a guy who was content to just "coast on his rep" for decades and never change/adapt... and his punches were terrible... not Shane McMahon level bad, but terrible....

I do have to admit that it must be some "rep" that he got in ECW because he did make a lengthy career of coasting on it.
I get what you’re saying. I was never a Van Dam guy. That being said, I was never a Rock guy either. But remember how stonkingly over he was in 2001? It bothered me how popular he was. Taking me out of it, he could have done way more for the company.

And if he got pushed better, who knows if he would have fallen into his patterns as hard. It’s not like he couldn’t work. Imagine if he got to have a real run up there with Kurt Angle, Austin and Rock while the the chance was there.
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I never saw ECW so I never "got" RVD.... just seemed like a guy who was content to just "coast on his rep" for decades and never change/adapt... and his punches were terrible... not Shane McMahon level bad, but terrible....

I do have to admit that it must be some "rep" that he got in ECW because he did make a lengthy career of coasting on it.
RVD agrees though. He says it sucked the life out of him after he realized they didnt get him and never were going to get him. He resigned himself to earning paychecks; he completely checked out. Thats the tragedy. His career ended in 2001. There was a spark when ECW was getting its revival but that was it. He phoned it in and got paid. The end.
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It was like he couldn't work though. You saw one RVD match you saw them all. (In WWE and after... again, can't speak for ECW)
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It was what was best for business.

Yeah, he was over.... but they also realized he wasn't actually that good and it was his "rep" and the "rep of ECW" that people were cheering... and that he could only ever be a B+ player in the big leagues, if that.
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It was like he couldn't work though. You saw one RVD match you saw them all. (In WWE and after... again, can't speak for ECW)
He went out, did his routine match, got paid, and went home. He truly didnt care. He's on the record about this.
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It was what was best for business.

Yeah, he was over.... but they also realized he wasn't actually that good and it was his "rep" and the "rep of ECW" that people were cheering... and that he could only ever be a B+ player in the big leagues, if that.
I don’t think that many people saw him in ECW. He had the rep with a certain segment of the audience, but RVD’s cool factor is what really got him, I think (even though he didn’t appeal to me personally).
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It was what was best for business.

Yeah, he was over.... but they also realized he wasn't actually that good and it was his "rep" and the "rep of ECW" that people were cheering... and that he could only ever be a B+ player in the big leagues, if that.
Now this is where you're re-writing history. He was the most over guy in the company in 01 and had been the hottest act in the business in the eyes of everyone who knew who he was since 97. His 01 wwf run was electric and his matches were creative and exciting. The cut him off by the balls and killed him completely because he was an ecw guy. He stayed over because everyone knew how good he was even if he wasnt good right then.
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Instead of being a wrestler he became a caricature. Stoner surfer guy. Had the same match for a decade.
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Nah, he sucked. His matches were exciting like the first couple of times I saw him, then if he "gave up" after only a few matches, it says a lot about him and his bad attitude. Why should I push that?
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He went out, did his routine match, got paid, and went home. He truly didnt care. He's on the record about this.
A convenient way to excuse your career.......

RVD sheep,,,,,,,,
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Is there a timeline where RVD got picked up by WCW in 1998 or an unfucked 1999? I want to go there.
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