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Old 10-30-2022, 05:22 PM   #66961
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I'll agree that Kenta was pretty irrelevant, but I dunno what you've been watching if you think Shinsuke is relevant.

His IC title reign was the worst ever. They didn't even have him on PPVs and he defended it like, what, 3 times maybe on TV? It was a joke. And until Friday night when he was Hit Rows mystery partner he had spent the last few months in NXT.
Still more relevant than kenta was.

Kenta in wwe was like, if 8 tracks were a wrestler.
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Old 10-30-2022, 06:48 PM   #66962
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So…what’s The Miz’s big secret going to be on Raw? Is this simply going to be the first illegitimate love child story under Triple H?

Holy shit, I hope they try to pass Dexter Lumis as The Miz’s son and Miz is like “…I’m 3 years older than you.”
It’s established Miz has tiny balls and as such he can’t produce. Dexter is the biological father of Mayrse’s kids. And somehow Hornswoggle is involved.
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Old 10-30-2022, 06:55 PM   #66963
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I'll agree that Kenta was pretty irrelevant, but I dunno what you've been watching if you think Shinsuke is relevant.

His IC title reign was the worst ever. They didn't even have him on PPVs and he defended it like, what, 3 times maybe on TV? It was a joke. And until Friday night when he was Hit Rows mystery partner he had spent the last few months in NXT.
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Pretty predictable. Nakamura was a fine IC Champion, but he’s held the belt for ages and has mainly been teaming with Boogs. I can see them being the team that eventually unseats The Usos, probably at Mania.

I’m not even sure Zayn holds the belt for that long. I can see Knoxville screwing him out of it. I can see Cesaro getting a little run with it, maybe defending it against Sheamus at Mania.
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I didn’t realize we were pretending to be marks?

Nakamura has been protected really well by the company.
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He’s knocked off challengers in contenders matches and tag team matches. He also defeated Damian Priest in a champion vs. champion match at Survivor Series (albeit by DQ). Most of his defenses as champion happen on house shows. He successfully defended the title 12 times.

Conversely, in Japan Nakamura’s longest IC Title reign was 313 days and it shared his most defenses in a single reign with 8. He once held the belt for 224 days and defended it 3 times.
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Lol, this reminds me of when people used to bitch about how shit Lesnar was as champion because he was never around and never defended the belt. He was actually defending it more frequently than Okada was as IWGP Champion in Japan, which is of course a darling doing darling things in a darling promotion.

Perspective is important. Maybe the average fan sees Nakamura being featured pretty constantly on television and is counting the times he doesn’t defend the belt and thinking “This is damn bullshit!” before throwing their beer can at the TV and swearing off wrestling forever. But maybe some are looking at him being presented in a good light (most of the time anyway) and are getting the impression that he must be a pretty good wrestler.
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The secondary belts have been treated way better than they have been in the past. That’s exactly my point. Secondary champions like Nakamura, Priest, Lashley, Rollins, Zayn and Styles have been presented as people you should care about. How many times they defend their belts is trivia for hardcore nerds. Nakamura won the IC Title when he was King Nakamura — the very concept of which meant he beat the King of the Ring for their crown. Is it a silly gimmick? Yes. But he has been featured and made to look good while being champion.

The internet is going to whinge about how nothing matters anymore like Nakamura going through Corbin, Moss, Mahal and Holland every week is some magic recipe to make people care. It’s people on the internet thinking their preference is what other people want to see.
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Old 10-30-2022, 07:23 PM   #66964
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Oh man a bunch of Noid novellas explaining it all. How could I ever have been so wrong?

I take it back, Nakamura is the most protected/well used man in all of sports entertainment. Can't believe I forgot the awesome boogs team and their amazing tag team title run after destroying the Usos. And while he may not have gotten that IC title reign, Cesaro got to be the super awesome RoH (totally not dead company) champion for a month. I apologize for my transgressions. Please forgive me XL.
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Old 10-30-2022, 07:33 PM   #66965
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You are a quick learner Sepholio. I went back and forth with Mr. Nerfect over Nak’s awful IC title reign before I finally understood that it was not the reign that was awful, but it’s that I was being an awful fan.
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And yet Hayabusa did the same thing from a lesser height and is dead
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I always figured Nakamura would get a retirement in Japan, at the very least. Vince seemed to respect the hell out of him.
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Oh man a bunch of Noid novellas explaining it all. How could I ever have been so wrong?

I take it back, Nakamura is the most protected/well used man in all of sports entertainment. Can't believe I forgot the awesome boogs team and their amazing tag team title run after destroying the Usos. And while he may not have gotten that IC title reign, Cesaro got to be the super awesome RoH (totally not dead company) champion for a month. I apologize for my transgressions. Please forgive me XL.
Ah yes, the dramatic hyperbole to try and drown out the point. Nakamura has been treated relatively well by the company. He’s no doubt on good money and has had a fairly protected spot.
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If I were New Japan, I would do a tournament for a new NEVER Openweight Champion. Hiroshi Tanahashi wins. He can beat Hikuleo somewhere in the tournament. Come Wrestle Kingdom, Karl Anderson has shown up and is looking for the belt he never lost. At the same time, Hikuleo has been trying to prove he can beat Tanahashi. WK is a three-way for the belt. Not too overpowering, but something with story.

Tanahashi retains the belt. A Raw soon after he has a moment with AJ Styles. Tanahashi vs. Styles for the NEVER Openweight Championship at Elimination Chamber. Tanahashi wins the battle of the best hair, and defends his belt against the former Bullet Club leader in the Saudi show his underling used to disrespect it.
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Tom Magee was in the wrong era. He should be in AEW today.
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Need to acknowledge that Rhea Ripley may be the most old school heel in the buisness right now. She's living for heat, I love the way she works. Legit believable to wrestle the guys too, I love it. She vicious but hot at the same time.
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Old 11-01-2022, 10:26 AM   #66990
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Tom Magee was in the wrong era. He should be in AEW today.
It would be very fun/funny/cute/cool if big time wrestle-mark Tony got the right to a bunch of "legend" like Tom Magee, The Mulky's, Double A and the Horsmen etc... to feature as buyable legends for the video game.
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Let's also acknowledge Gerwitz is now consulting for WWE and has just put out an interview that could be considered a tease for The Rock at Mania this year. They do work together on Young Rock you know, so his opinion should have some value.

WWE is really building momentum for the first time (creatively) in YEARS. For me it's still too much to watch, to sit for three hours to enjoy Raw is really impossible. Smackdown is great in highlights but I can't sit through the time required to really invest.

But still, we feel the momentum and I would suppose that a lot of kid fans do watch 5+ hours of WWE weekly no problem.

I think WWE's momentum is going to build up to the point of securing the Rock in the main event of Mania and will also be some kind of huge co-promotion/sponorship with the XFL, to help get that brand's name out there again in a massive way on Peacock with all their subs that will view Mania.
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The UCEY chants and signs continued to Monday.


They are 100% going to make some shirts...... or should anyway. Sami about to become a major merch mover.
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It would be weird to be a kid during this time. You’re just chilling, being an impressionable blob, and WWE is half-way good. I guess you still have Bray Wyatt feuding with himself to keep things for being too good.
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The Bray Wyatt stuff is interesting, love the slow burn of it. I believe Uncle Howdy will be Bo. Still no idea where they're going with it, which is what keeps me curious about it.
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I just know it’s going to be awful. It’s already awful. I don’t want any more of these sorts of characters in my wrestling, thanks.
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Old 11-01-2022, 05:53 PM   #66996
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Saudi has issued a warning of imminent attacks from Iran. Will be interesting to see if this impacts BLOOD MONEY 2022
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Imagine AEW taking over the rassling world after TK pays Iran to bomb the fed out of existence!
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I was just thinking that we’re due for some scary news from Saudi Arabia.
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