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Old 08-20-2009, 06:31 PM   #641
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After Spiderman 3, I'm not so sure I would even consider a reboot bad news
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Even though Spiderman 2 was one of the best comic book movies I've ever seen
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:33 PM   #643
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:34 PM   #644
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A reboot would be fine if Marvel Studios gets Spidey back from Sony. Then he could swing by Iron Man or Captain America. I want X-Men rebooted for the same reason. Cross overs, baby.
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:40 PM   #645
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I'd just like to see Spiderman restored to its glory. The franchise should have paced itself.
Spiderman 3 was extremely bloated, and felt paranoid about being the potential finale. Way too much going on in there, and as a result the movie was way out of whack.

I like the one villian style of 2, with a focus on Peter Parker as a character. That's where it should have gone from movie to movie.

It's funny, because the assets of Spiderman 3 could have easily spanned two or three movies. Instead they threw Sandman out there with no real setup, completely wasted Venom, and underdid the black suit storyline.
And probably the biggest injustice of all, they took the Harry Osborn storyline that was slowly developed over two movies and threw it away.

The reason this is ironic is that now they're making a 4th, and possibly a 5th. What are they going to do? Use The Lizard, or some other vilain and go back to the one villain formula? Its what they should have done in 3 to begin with.
They've exhausted all their assets and existing plotlines.
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:45 PM   #646
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I personally thought they should have fleshed out the Sandman storyline properly, and stuck to that for part 3.
During that time, they could have set up the black suit and explored that for a full movie.

Harry Osborn should have stayed on the backburner, while they subtlely built that creepy vengance plot.

They could have ended part 3 with Parker losing the suit, and Venom getting it. Then part 4 would be able to focus on Parker trying to re-organize his life while Venom is running wild knowing everything about him.

Then you still have Harry Osborn ready to go for a final installment. That would be part 5, but if they were able to go for 6, then Lizard would still be open and setup for 5.
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An Incredible Hulk soft-reboot kinda deal could work. As in, not doing another origin story or anything.
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To be fair, it wasn't really Raimi's fault that 3 turned out sub par in comparison to the first two. He DID want to focus on one villain, but the marketing machine at marvel studios forced venom on him, and we wound up with that mess. Hopefully they've learned their lesson.
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What villains do they have left? The Lizard, Mysterio, Electro, Vulture, Kraven. Can't see any of those guys topping sandman, let alone Doc ock. Best superhero movie fight ever was the clocktower/train fight from 2. Mysterio could possibly do it if they get creative with the illusions, but in the end, it's not a real fight. It's all in spidey's head.

Carnage is out of the question, as an unknowing moviegoer would see him as an unoriginal knock off of the previous film's villain.(because he IS an unoriginal knockoff of venom.)

Yeah, honestly, marvel studios kinda fucked over what could have been a great slow build to the sinister six.
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Sony got things on lock as far as Spidey goes. He won't be joining the live action Marvel-verse for some time.


So 4 isn't planned for release for a while?
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Im not sure i'd like a rebooted Spidey, but i would like for them (by them i mean Raimi) to get off his focus on the love story of MJ and Pete and the Sinister Six villians, and give Venom a nice return, and a proper one at that. I'd like to see the symbiote find its way to another, since they blew Eddie Brock to bits...maybe it finds his father? Eddie snr could be played by someone notably bigger, and more brooding like Vin Diesel (whom i always felt would play a good Venom), and make Venom more alien than clone spidey (by that i mean long tongue, dripping mouth and sharp teeth like an alien from the Alien movies, and all around more like the Venom in the books).
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What villains do they have left? The Lizard, Mysterio, Electro, Vulture, Kraven. Can't see any of those guys topping sandman, let alone Doc ock. Best superhero movie fight ever was the clocktower/train fight from 2. Mysterio could possibly do it if they get creative with the illusions, but in the end, it's not a real fight. It's all in spidey's head.

Carnage is out of the question, as an unknowing moviegoer would see him as an unoriginal knock off of the previous film's villain.(because he IS an unoriginal knockoff of venom.)

Yeah, honestly, marvel studios kinda fucked over what could have been a great slow build to the sinister six.
Whaaa? Id say he's more a knockoff of the Joker than Venom, but i could see them doing him right, so long as they tap more into the darker side of the character...after all, the dude was simply a crazed murderer, and the symbiote made it more so. Essentially, to do Carnage justice would be making Spiderman rated R.
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It will more than likely be Lizard and Black Cat in 4. That's what Raimi wanted for 3 anyways.
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Sony got things on lock as far as Spidey goes. He won't be joining the live action Marvel-verse for some time.


So 4 isn't planned for release for a while?
Oh 4's going into production next year, I think. I mean Spidey won't be in any crossovers.
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Whaaa? Id say he's more a knockoff of the Joker than Venom, but i could see them doing him right, so long as they tap more into the darker side of the character...after all, the dude was simply a crazed murderer, and the symbiote made it more so. Essentially, to do Carnage justice would be making Spiderman rated R.
He had the same body type, and he was crazy, but not nearly as insane as Joker. They may have tried to implement a few elements of the Joker, but at that time, Venom was HUGE. Way more popular than the joker, and carnage was their attempt to milk more money out of it.
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An Incredible Hulk soft-reboot kinda deal could work. As in, not doing another origin story or anything.
Um, they did that with the last one.
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He's saying to do that same thing, but with spiderman. Cmon funky
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Fox is rebooting Fantastic Four already: http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/09/01...-in-the-works/
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Yeah... good luck with that. Don't agree with replacing Tim Story, or the cast - who I believe deserves another chance.
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C'mon, it's been years since B&R. You can't possibly believe he'll do something in that movie's quality these days. People can get better at their craft.
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Old 09-02-2009, 02:31 AM   #669
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Yeah... good luck with that. Don't agree with replacing Tim Story, or the cast - who I believe deserves another chance.
Those movies were so lame, this is the best they can hope for.

Too many stupid unnecessary little changes. They felt like one of those crappy superhero kids movies that aren't based on any source material in particular, tbh. Meteor Man, Zoom, etc. God awful shit that was little more than a merchandising juggernaut.
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:59 PM   #672
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They were awful. The cast was a mixed bag. I thought Michael Chiklis and Chris Evans were acceptable casting jobs, but the other two and Dr. Doom were awful.

In any event, it's too late now and they should start from scratch, or not at all. Fantastic Four strikes me as the type of comic book that just isn't fit for the transition to the screen. I'd like to be wrong though. I loved Fantastic Four growing up
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Old 09-02-2009, 01:19 PM   #673
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I keep seeing Bibleman action figures at Half Price Books. I'm assuming all I need from that.
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Old 09-02-2009, 07:09 PM   #678
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Bibleman looks like a villain, wtf?

Anyway, it'd just be better if they gave up on the Fantastic Four as a movie franchise. They had their chance and botched it. Should have done it like Iron Man: adapted for films, but still true to the source material.
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Old 09-02-2009, 07:12 PM   #679
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Iron Man was good, but not really source material accurate. We're not gonna get the Ten Rings of Power.
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I thought that Bibleman picture was a badly done Black Knight (from Marvel) costume instead.
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