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Old 08-02-2021, 10:54 PM   #7401
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One of my favorite experiences going to the theater was when I saw Silent Hill: Revelations and there were literally only two other people in the same screening as me. Yes, even though I sat and viewed one of the worst things ever put to film I enjoyed myself for the simple fact that I didn't have to put up with a room full of dipshits.
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Old 08-03-2021, 10:17 AM   #7402
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Right?


You can get a decent set of "home theater" speakers for less than $200 for a room and TV's are cheaper than they've ever been. Don't shy away from pawn shops if you're on a super tight budget either, they can have shit just as good as new sometimes.


Couple this with things like Hulu and Sling watch Party and it's pretty easy to still enjoy stuff with others while still being comfy in your own home.
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Old 08-11-2021, 10:18 AM   #7403
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First episode of What if was good. It's the Captain Carter story.
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Oh, hell, is it already airing? It completely slipped my brain.
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What If..... tall muscular Peggy Carter had sex with skinny scrawny Steve Rogers.... what would that have looked like and would she have broke him in half?
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He'd be disqualified on his asthma alone.
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I wonder if she ended up being stronger than MCU Steve Rogers?
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Who hell is cutting onions while I see Chadwick Boseman's name credited in the latest "What If...?" episode?
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really poorly written ep of what if. in this premise T'Challa leaves his family for the literal 1st random strangers the come along. this at this point is the canonical mcu T'Challa. it completely undermines his entire character.


and the entire episode has this little attention to the characters authenticity. whats the point of a what if if theres no integrity in the story telling to exist in a version of a time line that resembles something tha feels like a logical extension into a possible potential multiverse?


this is much closer to slap stick than what if.
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also what about becoming a gardner made thanos such a pussy? goes from omega level threat to giant bitch
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Old 08-19-2021, 01:51 AM   #7411
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really poorly written ep of what if. in this premise T'Challa leaves his family for the literal 1st random strangers the come along. this at this point is the canonical mcu T'Challa. it completely undermines his entire character.


and the entire episode has this little attention to the characters authenticity. whats the point of a what if if theres no integrity in the story telling to exist in a version of a time line that resembles something tha feels like a logical extension into a possible potential multiverse?


this is much closer to slap stick than what if.
I liked it, and I didn't see it that way.

I realize this is going to sound pretentious, but looking at both episodes so far, it feels like they're trying to tell stories of nature vs nurture. The only flaw is that the chunks are so bite-sized that it almost feels incomplete, even as one-off stories... but it doesn't seem insincere to me. Peggy "sacrificed" herself rather than let the experiment go completely to waste in those few precious seconds. Steve still wanted to help. T'Challa is more learned, diplomatic, and jovial than the recently orphaned and greiving Peter.

With T'Challa, they said it right there at the beginning, "right/wrong place at the right/wrong time". It wasn't simply just them screwing up and not abducting Quill, but they caught him at the right moment where he felt like he was cooped up and shut in away from seeing anything else outside of Wakanda. If aliens strolled up to me in 1988, I'd have prob'ly done the same thing. Being a dumbass, curious kid who has the potential to go up into space would have absolutely overrode most fear and logically thinking about abandoning everything I know since I was OBSESSED with space back then.

About Thanos being "a pussy" - it's similar to the impression I got from both Infinity War movies: Older Thanos did the work, calculated, put in the effort, sacrificed to "win". Younger Thanos just saw his variant succeed and figured it was a foregone conclusion, and as such got cocky and sloppy. Similarly, the Thanos here stopped being that guy, so he got soft. The difference would be like fighting Mike Tyson in his prime and fighting Mike Tyson now. I'm not talking age, I mean back when he hated the world and trained like a beast as opposed to being the more mature, wiser, calmer, higher Tyson. He can still knock someone out assuredly, but just in some random street fight, he is not in the same condition or headspace he was back then... same here with Thanos. He's not the terror of the universe anymore. It took two of what *we* know of as his strongest leftenants to actually eventually get an advantage on him, but it wasn't exactly instant.

But also, in the end, these are basically throwaway stories. This existence is basically doomed because Ego apparently got what he wanted, but that's just what went down in this particular cosmic coin flip.
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What If..... tall muscular Peggy Carter had sex with skinny scrawny Steve Rogers.... what would that have looked like and would she have broke him in half?
Prob'ly like that movie My Super Ex-Girlfriend, except instead replace Uma Thurman with She-Hulk. Like, the more recent, more sizeable and "dumb speak" Shulkie.
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Old 08-19-2021, 06:38 PM   #7413
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youre right about these being throwaway stories. they have no value.
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(which was not true of the what ifs in the 80s/90s)
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Huh...have to say the latest "What If...?" is probably the best one so far.
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Huh...have to say the latest "What If...?" is probably the best one so far.
I actually went down the wrong path.

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I would've sworn it was Pearce, and Hydra had stepped up Project Insight. I totally forgot about Hank Pym's initial MCU hate boner for SHIELD. Not really enough self-contained setup to be able to make a more educated guess.

Also, it would have been funny if this Loki were President Loki with the suit and campaign button at the end just for the visual goof.


Not bad for a 30 minute whodunit, though.
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I love 'whodunits' so if they could more in this series or in other films it'd be tops. It was throwing me for a loop because they didn't spell out the "what if...?" in the beginning like they did with the other episodes so I was going through my Rolodex of suspects which meant I was engaged and that's always a plus.
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I love 'whodunits' so if they could more in this series or in other films it'd be tops. It was throwing me for a loop because they didn't spell out the "what if...?" in the beginning like they did with the other episodes so I was going through my Rolodex of suspects which meant I was engaged and that's always a plus.
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...AND HE WOULDA GOT AWAY WITH IT, TOO, IF IT WEREN'T FOR THOSE MEDDLING ASGARDIANS!!!
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pretty easily the best one so far even if its still leaving a lot of potential on the table. if they keep improving though there might be a gem here yet. holding out hope.
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Thought the latest episode was veering into cop out territory but it brought it back around with the ending. It wasn't the typical wrap-up we've seen from the first three. I'm not sure if it's better than last week's but it's still fairly solid.
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Really enjoyed the strange ep. i dont really know how

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if stranges girlfriend dies he somehow still goes to seek the mistic arts...that doesnt track for me at all. huge leap of logic.


but its a minor gripe because i think they managed to tell a very good dr strange story. really enjoyed it


also:


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Im declaring evil strange as Darktor Strange
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Not sure what else they're building towards in regards to the mid-credits scene in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. There are a lot balls in the air as far as what Marvel is trying to juggle.
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Really enjoyed the strange ep. i dont really know how

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if stranges girlfriend dies he somehow still goes to seek the mistic arts...that doesnt track for me at all. huge leap of logic.


but its a minor gripe because i think they managed to tell a very good dr strange story. really enjoyed it
Eh...
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Not *so* great a leap. Especially considering that in this universe, he apparently wasn't such a colossal asshole to her that he was alone in the vehicle and trying to text at speed in a sportscar. Still just as arrogant, apparently.

The only problems I kinda had here is how it seemed like a prep course for the new Spider-Man, and that it really wasn't so much Strange's fault than it was the Ancient One for splitting his decision into two and trying to pit his clearly weaker half against an evil half with centuries worth of power acquisition behind him.

However, that bit of nitpickery is negated by both the fact that this Strange becomes aware of The Watcher's presence (who I will *not* assume is Uatu) and that Twilight Zone/Outer Limits type ending where he apparently is trapped forever in what is left of his universe to not only mourn the fact that he sealed its fate, but lost the love of his life twice.

Got major "It's not fair; I had time now!" vibes, except it was a vastly greater weight than self-pity.


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Im declaring evil strange as Darktor Strange
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Darktor ARMANI!

Lastly... I wonder how many What If...? episodes will contain Shuma-Gorath?
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Old 09-07-2021, 08:23 AM   #7426
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[QUOTE=Tom Guycott;5477260]Eh...
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Not *so* great a leap. Especially considering that in this universe, he apparently wasn't such a colossal asshole to her that he was alone in the vehicle and trying to text at speed in a sportscar. Still just as arrogant, apparently.

The only problems I kinda had here is how it seemed like a prep course for the new Spider-Man, and that it really wasn't so much Strange's fault than it was the Ancient One for splitting his decision into two and trying to pit his clearly weaker half against an evil half with centuries worth of power acquisition behind him.

However, that bit of nitpickery is negated by both the fact that this Strange becomes aware of The Watcher's presence (who I will *not* assume is Uatu) and that Twilight Zone/Outer Limits type ending where he apparently is trapped forever in what is left of his universe to not only mourn the fact that he sealed its fate, but lost the love of his life twice.

Got major "It's not fair; I had time now!" vibes, except it was a vastly greater weight than self-pity.




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Darktor ARMANI!

Lastly... I wonder how many What If...? episodes will contain Shuma-Gorath?
[/QUOTEits a massive leap. going to magic because youre sad doesnt follow any kind logic]
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I don't see it that way.

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He "used magic because he was sad" anyway.

The existential impact on him from both things from both universes led to the same downward spiral. It wasn't him wrapping his entirety of meaning into not being able to doctor anymore because of his hands, it was him wrapping his entirety of meaning into her. He still lost something, and grief can lead you into weird places. I just figured he'd be looking into things more necromantic in this story than the dangerously preventative route it took.

I guess I just don't understand how "use magic to make my hands worky" is any less of a logic leap than "use magic to make my lover not dead".
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I don't see it that way.

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He "used magic because he was sad" anyway.

The existential impact on him from both things from both universes led to the same downward spiral. It wasn't him wrapping his entirety of meaning into not being able to doctor anymore because of his hands, it was him wrapping his entirety of meaning into her. He still lost something, and grief can lead you into weird places. I just figured he'd be looking into things more necromantic in this story than the dangerously preventative route it took.

I guess I just don't understand how "use magic to make my hands worky" is any less of a logic leap than "use magic to make my lover not dead".
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traveling the world looking for unconventional healing methods is a thing people actually do. its real. so when you write that story is conoletely plausible that when writing a story about a guy who explores all western science and medicine that after he turns to eastern he hears a rumor of a healing magic and in his desperation turns to it.


none of this is true for super sad guys. he isnt traveling the world looking for ways to ressurect a lost lover. he doesnt believe in magic. this would have me believe he's traveling the world cause hes just so damn sad. like leaving the house is a trait of depression to begin with. and someone in his complete and utter depression he talks to people. that in it of itself is miraculous but no it goes further and after he explores all known methods hes told about magic via all this socializing he's doing and its the same magic he would have otherwise found out about because well how else will we bring in those actors from the movie.


and thats this in a nutshell its forced. instead of saying "lets let the premise take us where it should." allowing the story to write itself. we get "here's a premise but we need to fit in all this fan service too." and it isnt satisfying or clever. its hacky bull shit. hin losing his hands shouldn't lead to the same origin as losing his "heart." it isnt honest. its contrived and it doesnt have to be. and thats the wors part of all these eps. theyre just lazy.
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Ugh, Marvel zombies for the newest "What If...?" Least favorite episode on general principle.
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Looks like they have "fixed" Sins of the Past in Spiderman and now I am waiting to see whether One More Day is on the chopping block or whether M.Js miscarriage will be retconned
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The original marvel zombies stories were good. As oversaturated as zombies are, it could still be a fun episode.
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zombies was good. characters all acted in the parameters of their canonical selves..seems like a low bar but thats all i really want from these. be fun and be consistent. zombies hit that.
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Well with last week's "What If...?" leaving a bad taste in my mouth, this week's was way more palatable. A bit of a weak ending, I think, but just the fact that Killmonger is brought back into things and pairing him with Stark is just goodness all around.
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Still haven't watched any except the first week.... I should maybe check them out....
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This What If was the weakest by far, but still alright. I don't know when and why Kilmonger is suddenly a Marvel-class engineer but whatever. I kinda felt from the jump that a story with Kilmonger was gonna over reach. He is an extremely overrated villain.
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This What If was the weakest by far, but still alright. I don't know when and why Kilmonger is suddenly a Marvel-class engineer but whatever. I kinda felt from the jump that a story with Kilmonger was gonna over reach. He is an extremely overrated villain.
I felt like this was something that would've worked better with more time. Not neccessarily a full-fleged MCU live movie, but some sort of "What If....?" feature, similar to the DCAU things. It was like they wanted to explore both Killmonger's intentions and used the idea of Stark never getting captured and thus becoming Iron Man as a springboard for it instead of giving both concepts time to flesh out. Hell, even the ending seemed like there should be a resolution after instead of another story concept that is going untold.


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Pop culture poularity is a hell of a thing. Honestly surprised they didn't work in his "Hey, Auntie!" Remember, Batman TAS episode Heart of Ice is why Mr. Freeze went from any one of DC's 20 interchangable ice themed villans to sympathetically tragic A-lister. Deadpool went from a jab at Slade "across the street", to comic nerd in-joke, to worldwide in-joke. And, for fuck's sake, Loki. Nobody gave a single, solitary fuck about Marvel's version of Loki until the movies, and now he's reaching Wolverine levels of popularity and morphing into this "loveable, rougish antihero". If Michael B. Jordan didn't kill it in the movie, or they cast some kinda shitty actor, or didn't give him half the "cool" dialogue he got, he'd still be an also-ran amongst the ranks of your Black Toms and Smart Alecs.
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