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Old 01-04-2016, 02:07 PM   #721
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Dude, of course racism is still out there. You're acting like it's still this huge deal though. Being racist in public usually ends in the racist being shamed by the entire world these days. Yeah, you're gonna have a bunch of idiots on the internet flying off the handle about an interracial couple in Star Wars, but the vast majority of people wouldn't give a crap, and the vast majority would point and laugh at the idiots whining about it. Technically there are still people who think women should be relegated to the kitchen too, doesn't mean that those people are taken seriously by anyone with a real life.
It absolutely is a big deal these days. Everything that has been happening with black people and police is all racism... from why they get arrested, to what they get arrested for and especially how the arrests are handled.

And yes people are not really in your face about it now which leads to my point that people get to be shitty on the internet because they are relatively anonymous. Not to mention you have people who are crazy, doing crazy shit. you do something to piss them off, and you could have another dark knight theater shooting. That sounds far out? Well not to hollywood. they absolutly fear that shit.

Again why dont you see war movies that ever highlight moments where america was an asshole?
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Old 01-04-2016, 02:09 PM   #722
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THERE IS AN INTERRACIAL COUPLE IN THIS?

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Old 01-04-2016, 03:25 PM   #723
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Dude, of course racism is still out there. You're acting like it's still this huge deal though. Being racist in public usually ends in the racist being shamed by the entire world these days. Yeah, you're gonna have a bunch of idiots on the internet flying off the handle about an interracial couple in Star Wars, but the vast majority of people wouldn't give a crap, and the vast majority would point and laugh at the idiots whining about it. Technically there are still people who think women should be relegated to the kitchen too, doesn't mean that those people are taken seriously by anyone with a real life.
I dunno I think it's kinda cool we had a mainstream movie with a black guy/white woman 'couple' where the movie didn't focus on race relations being the main story line.
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Old 01-04-2016, 09:17 PM   #724
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It absolutely is a big deal these days. Everything that has been happening with black people and police is all racism... from why they get arrested, to what they get arrested for and especially how the arrests are handled.

And yes people are not really in your face about it now which leads to my point that people get to be shitty on the internet because they are relatively anonymous. Not to mention you have people who are crazy, doing crazy shit. you do something to piss them off, and you could have another dark knight theater shooting. That sounds far out? Well not to hollywood. they absolutly fear that shit.

Again why dont you see war movies that ever highlight moments where america was an asshole?
Dude, you are completely ridiculous and it is really hilarious.
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Old 01-04-2016, 09:23 PM   #725
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I dunno I think it's kinda cool we had a mainstream movie with a black guy/white woman 'couple' where the movie didn't focus on race relations being the main story line.
Yeah, but that's my point. Most people feel like you or don't even notice like me. The vocal minority that bitch about it don't matter. Reavant is under the impression that people would be freaking out about it and it'd be all over the news and shit. The only news station that might even glance over it is Fox, and no one but lonely old men take those mongoloids seriously anymore. The biggest thing that would come out of something like this would be a bunch of shit internet sites posting clickbait articles on it, and despite what the nerds of the world want to believe the internet still isn't taken that seriously by mainstream media. At least not the parts of it that complain about shit like this. Hell, Reavant even went so far as to say it could trigger a mass shooting which is just about the most hilarious thing I think I've ever read on this forum lol.
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Old 01-05-2016, 09:18 AM   #726
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no more ridiculous than a draw muhammed contest triggering a mass shooting... oh wait that happened
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Old 01-05-2016, 05:18 PM   #727
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Not sure what you're inferring there, Reav.

Everybody hates racists. It can cost you your job if your words can be interpreted as racist or sexist. One would conclude we won that battle when politicians are tripping over themselves to not be called racist, up to and including literally white washing facts.

It's no longer a big deal. But if your local area still kicks up a fuss I suppose that's your local area.
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Old 01-05-2016, 10:55 PM   #728
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Reavant, you really should look into moving out of whatever hick area you live in. Sounds like shit there, dude.
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Old 01-06-2016, 05:53 AM   #729
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Finally go and see this today! At 12.20 this afternoon. Hopefully the cinema will be empty.
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Old 01-06-2016, 08:08 AM   #730
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Saw this last night! Loved it! Just loved it! Everything I wanted in a Star Wars film!

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Old 01-06-2016, 11:00 AM   #731
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Not sure what you're inferring there, Reav.

Everybody hates racists. It can cost you your job if your words can be interpreted as racist or sexist. One would conclude we won that battle when politicians are tripping over themselves to not be called racist, up to and including literally white washing facts.

It's no longer a big deal. But if your local area still kicks up a fuss I suppose that's your local area.
He said it would be crazy to have a shooting for something like that and i brought up such an example.

Im not saying black people are being put back in chains but given everything happening right now with how they are treated by cops, to the poverty devide, etc how can you say its not a big deal. you being black have a statistically higher rate of being arrested for doing something wrong than i do if i did the same thing. Thats not a big deal?

Thats a big digression, but I work in a firehouse near chicago that is all white and the shit I hear is crazy still. given the anonymity of the internet, shit gets nastier. There would be people there that would not see this film if there was a bm/wm lead role relationship thing. I personally dont care but a lot of people still do. Thats what Im saying here. Im saying Hollywood doesnt go that route in this movie so that the question never has to be addressed. Im saying their gunna chicken out.

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Reavant, you really should look into moving out of whatever hick area you live in. Sounds like shit there, dude.
Dude Im saying the racists are wrong. If your gunna troll be good at it.
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Just been to see it again. Just as sweet the second time.
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Old 01-06-2016, 04:52 PM   #733
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I would love to talk more about this but I'm currently off the grid and it would be a disservice to you and the topic typing soundbites on my phone. I will revisit this in another time in another thread.
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Old 01-06-2016, 04:56 PM   #734
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Haven't seen this yet, but from looking at the last 2 pages, yall ruined this thread and I move that a new, BULLSHIT FREE thread be started for great justice.
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I would love to talk more about this but I'm currently off the grid and it would be a disservice to you and the topic typing soundbites on my phone. I will revisit this in another time in another thread.

when you get a moment please add your thoughts here as well:

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Old 01-06-2016, 09:58 PM   #738
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Not sure what you're inferring there, Reav.

Everybody hates racists. It can cost you your job if your words can be interpreted as racist or sexist. One would conclude we won that battle when politicians are tripping over themselves to not be called racist, up to and including literally white washing facts.

It's no longer a big deal. But if your local area still kicks up a fuss I suppose that's your local area.

The world hate racists. TPWW seems to hate owenbrown. Hmmm, you don't think, nah, he's not. Is he?
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Old 01-06-2016, 10:06 PM   #739
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So there is a theory about Ray and her lineage. It's not the she is a Skywalker rumor... it's she is Obi-Wan Kenobi's Grand Daughter...WTF

Where did people come up with that theory? I haven't read a good explanation on this yet.
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Seen that to, didn't see anything from the film that would point to that being the case other than hearing his voice be for her vision.. She would have been drawn to Obi Wans lightsaber. Wouldn't have a problem if she was but I just don't see it.
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People are leaning on the English accent, and that her, Obi-Wan, and C-3Po are the only good guys who use an English accent in all of the movies... Which I guess is right, and that's interesting if that really is case. Not because it makes them related, but because there has been a lot of English actors in Star Wars.

I think it's the worst theory yet. The Snoke is Darth Plagueis theory is awesome, and is the best theory so far. In fact if he isn't Darth Plagueis which he probably won't be I'm going to be disappointed.
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Old 01-06-2016, 10:32 PM   #742
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Nah, that theory is bullocks. The best explanation for it that I've seen is that there was apparently a character in the Clone Wars cartoon that Obi-Wan said he'd have left the Jedi for if she'd have had him. Some people are saying that maybe between the season where she was introduced and the one where she died she and Obi-Wan broke his vows to the Jedi Order, and that she kept it secret so as to not ruin his life as a Jedi. Just seems way to convoluted honestly. Plus I just don't see them using something from the cartoons as a major plot point in the movies. I know they're technically canon now, but if Darth Vader having an apprentice hasn't been made a big deal then why would a little fling between Ben and some diplomat suddenly become a MAJOR one?
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Also I too like the Darth Plagueis theory. The only reason I don't think it'll happen is that apparently the Knights of Ren are supposed to be something else entirely from the Sith. Apparently they wanna show that Jedi and Sith are not the only force users in the galaxy or something and that they're just two of many religions focusing around the force.
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People are leaning on the English accent, and that her, Obi-Wan, and C-3Po are the only good guys who use an English accent in all of the movies... Which I guess is right, and that's interesting if that really is case. Not because it makes them related, but because there has been a lot of English actors in Star Wars.

I think it's the worst theory yet. The Snoe is Darth Plagueis theory is awesome, and is the best theory so far. In fact if he isn't Darth Plagueis which he probably won't be I'm going to be disappointed.
From what I've read Snoke is a new character and not Darth Plagueis. They could just be try I g to cover it up though. Really want him to be Plagueis to tie in everything but if he's not I'd still be cool with a whole new character.
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Old 01-06-2016, 10:50 PM   #745
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It's not going to be Darth Plagueis. It will be some other thing, and it will probably be good.

With that said it's going to be anticlimactic, because The Darth Plagueis theory is more interesting then anything they are going to come up with now.
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Also I'm giving credit To Fignuts for coming up with the Darth Plagueis theory, because He was the first to mention it that I saw anywhere.

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Kalyx, your thoughts on this piece:

http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/of...-gr/1100-5371/
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New theory I read speculates



Snoke is actually Emperor Palpatine's spirit which went and inhabited Darth Vader's corpse.
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I say no to that theory, but prob def an "intentional wink" that Snoke's scars look like Vader's....
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Maybe Vader banged some other braud after Padme with his melted dong, who had a kid, who then had Rey.

Then her parents sent her off to be a Jedi but she was a little bitch and they figured she'd end up like Vader so they dumped her in the desert, which actually worked as she grew up to look like Daisy Ridley and not some horrifically sunburnt, homeless scruff
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Kinda hope she's not related to anybody though despite all the ominous hints. Maybe her parents recognised her force abilities early on, sent her to Luke for a bit then got scared by the whole thing because Luke was a crazy hobo so pulled her out of training and abandoned her.

I'd probably prefer something simple like that.
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I'll peep it and discuss later, thanks.

But most likely in another thread.
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Finally got around to seeing this. Lucas can shit on Disney all he wants but they pulled off a better Star Wars than he has since RotJ
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Old 01-08-2016, 06:18 AM   #755
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I'd say since empire. No ewoks in this one.
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The ewok hate I think is a bit overplayed. I mean they're not great, and them beating the Empire was pretty stupid, but overall the movie was pretty good. Hell, even if you consider it the weakest of the original trilogy it's still leaps and bounds ahead of the prequels, and it's better than most movies I've seen in the genre. And, hey, Wicket is way less annoying than Jar Jar.
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I fast forward all the Ewok scenes and have done so since I was a kid. I find them mostly unwatchable.

The Emperor Vader Luke scenes are great
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Maybe Vader banged some other braud after Padme with his melted dong, who had a kid, who then had Rey.

Then her parents sent her off to be a Jedi but she was a little bitch and they figured she'd end up like Vader so they dumped her in the desert, which actually worked as she grew up to look like Daisy Ridley and not some horrifically sunburnt, homeless scruff
So you're telling me if I have a kid, all I have to do is neglect them and they'll grow up to be Daisy Ridley?

SOLD

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Kinda hope she's not related to anybody though despite all the ominous hints. Maybe her parents recognised her force abilities early on, sent her to Luke for a bit then got scared by the whole thing because Luke was a crazy hobo so pulled her out of training and abandoned her.

I'd probably prefer something simple like that.
Yes that is exactly what I think/hope will happen. I really don't want her to be some established character's daughter or something, feels so on the nose.

I think she is going to just be a student at Luke's Jedi Academy (or w/e it's called) and then when Kylo went all slicey/stabby on them she somehow survived and was sent away for her protection, probably had some Jedi Men-in-Black memory erasing shit happen and boom here we are
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