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Old 02-03-2022, 06:06 AM   #7601
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There’s no excuse for it, but it possibly comes from a place of ignorance, not hate. Maybe. Hopefully.
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Old 02-03-2022, 06:12 AM   #7602
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I see a lot of people online saying how this isn't fair and this cancel culture stuff has to stop. It was 10 years ago, get over it. Things like that.

Ironically there is about a 98% overlap in the group saying that and people who were celebrating literally yesterday when Whoopie got suspended.
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Old 02-03-2022, 06:57 AM   #7603
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Fkn reptilians getting in the way of decent six minute tv match
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Old 02-03-2022, 06:58 AM   #7604
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Wait....Brian Kendrick made a movie about all this crazy shit. I have to see this now.
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Old 02-03-2022, 07:14 AM   #7605
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I see a lot of people online saying how this isn't fair and this cancel culture stuff has to stop. It was 10 years ago, get over it. Things like that.

Ironically there is about a 98% overlap in the group saying that and people who were celebrating literally yesterday when Whoopie got suspended.
No one is entitled to a platform. Plus it can also be a business decision. If promotions don’t feel it is worth their while to promote someone with controversial takes, they aren’t obligated to use them.
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Old 02-03-2022, 10:02 AM   #7606
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I see a lot of people defending it as "well it was 10 years ago! He might've changed."

Which I understand. But if his views had fundamentally changed between now and then, he'd have at least said something about once holding those horrible views. The big trick everyone tries to pull with "it's a long time ago" is to get you to ignore the many intervening years where the person could have apologized, atoned, or demonstrated personal growth.
Do you remember every stupid thing you said when you were in your 20's?
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Old 02-03-2022, 10:13 AM   #7607
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I definitely said AND did stupid shit I wouldn't do today.




Fuck you, me from the past!!!
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Old 02-03-2022, 10:24 AM   #7608
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Do you remember every stupid thing you said when you were in your 20's?
Of course I don't. But that's an irrelevant argument seeing as I'm not a public figure who decided to put these views out on video for everyone to see.

Beyond all that, he wasn't in his 20's. He was 32 years old denying the Holocaust on camera.
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Old 02-03-2022, 10:35 AM   #7609
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It's no surprise that a stoner idiot, in the extended adolescent bubble of professional wrestling, would be into David Icke, and nonsense like that.

But even when you're dabbling in any aspect of that nonsense, there's a point where you have to draw a line, say "this isn't fun any more", and recognize that what you're espousing to the public isn't just abject bullshit, but hateful, dangerous and morally repugnant. Holocaust denial is a good few miles beyond that line FFS.

When you talk about the Holocaust, Sandy Hook and 9/11 like that and then say it was “never” your beliefs when you were recorded doing so and had a whole video of you specifically saying so, that’s a certain level of - well, not taking any responsibility.
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Old 02-03-2022, 10:54 AM   #7610
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Not denying that it was a shitty thing to say, or that it shouldn't be called out. Just saying it's unfair to say he should have remembered and apologized for a decade old interview he did where he was likely so high that he didn't remember doing it the next day.

He should address it now, but he shouldn't be automatically be deleted from existence which is the main problem with cancel culture.
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Old 02-03-2022, 11:07 AM   #7611
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Not denying that it was a shitty thing to say, or that it shouldn't be called out. Just saying it's unfair to say he should have remembered and apologized for a decade old interview he did where he was likely so high that he didn't remember doing it the next day.

He should address it now, but he shouldn't be automatically be deleted from existence which is the main problem with cancel culture.

Can't wait till it cancels itself. Also, Dan fucking Lambert is AMAZING on the mic. Underlined part reminded me of his promo with Brandi Rhodes last night
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Old 02-03-2022, 11:18 AM   #7612
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He is, but he's been kind of one note. Just saying the same things over and over.
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Old 02-03-2022, 11:24 AM   #7613
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As are most "conservative" talking points, fictional or not. This was the 1st time I've heard him, but can easily see how quickly it is stale due to the same 1-3 talking points.
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Old 02-03-2022, 11:29 AM   #7614
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He should address it now, but he shouldn't be automatically be deleted from existence which is the main problem with cancel culture.
I don't think he needs to be deleted from existence, I think pulling him off of last night's show was the right call and in addition to his Twitter apology I imagine the company will have him do some sort sensitivity training or whatever.

I wouldn't expect him to be "benched" for long. Probably at least 3 weeks because I can't imagine them throwing him out there in Bridgeport, all of 20 min away from Sandy Hook, but I could see him appearing for the company in March.

Def don't think people should be permanently deplatformed unless they do something especially heinous, the sex pests in the business are a far bigger issue IMO.
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Old 02-03-2022, 11:47 AM   #7615
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did they already sign him? thought it was one of those one-off appearances that would probably have led to a "...IS ALL ELITE"
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Old 02-03-2022, 12:14 PM   #7616
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I think the sensitivity training is the dumbest fucking shit about this type of thing. If the person was offensive recently sure, that makes sense. But making someone go for something they said over a decade ago is outright admitting you're not going to even entertain the idea that this person has grown and changed since then. I realize aew knows this and would do it for the optics, but it's shitty and again, unfair that they feel they'd need to.
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Old 02-03-2022, 12:21 PM   #7617
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did they already sign him? thought it was one of those one-off appearances that would probably have led to a "...IS ALL ELITE"
Just a one-off appearance
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Old 02-03-2022, 01:09 PM   #7618
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Feel like he probably would have gotten a tryout as a coach after a couple of matches

I doubt they bring him back now because the PR hit wouldn't be worth it
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Old 02-03-2022, 02:50 PM   #7619
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Old 02-05-2022, 01:02 AM   #7628
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Under 1 million for 1 week, and TK already bugging his dad for money to buy new wrestlers.
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Old 02-05-2022, 06:13 AM   #7629
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So, Keith Lee?
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Old 02-05-2022, 06:24 AM   #7630
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Gosh I hope so.
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Old 02-05-2022, 09:23 AM   #7631
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Surely Forbidden Door refers to someone appearing on a show of a promotion when contracted to another? It’s not forbidden if the person is a free agent!

This is why people can’t get into AEW, it’s all overhype and underwhelm. A TOP wrestler, FORBIDDEN door….and it’s Keith Lee. A guy the bigger company decided wasn’t worth his contract.

If they would stop click baiting and ANNOUNCING things, the product might speak for itself. Tony Khan needs to shut up.
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Old 02-05-2022, 09:34 AM   #7632
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Yeah I'm not the least bit interested by another signing right now. Just means less time for someone else at this point.
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Old 02-05-2022, 09:48 AM   #7633
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Yeah the Forbidden Door™ probably suggests it’s someone from another promotion rather than a free agent, unless it’s become a catch all for “coming into AEW”.
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Old 02-05-2022, 09:54 AM   #7634
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Equally underwhelming would be if his definition of top guy is a top guy in his respective company. Cause if it's not njpw, then top guy doesn't mean anything.
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Old 02-05-2022, 09:56 AM   #7635
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Equally underwhelming would be if his definition of top guy is a top guy in his respective company. Cause if it's not njpw, then top guy doesn't mean anything.
I'm thinking someone from ROH maybe.
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Old 02-05-2022, 09:56 AM   #7636
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I dunno about that. You give him all your time and attention now for free.
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Old 02-05-2022, 11:05 AM   #7637
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Gonna laugh when the forbidden door swings open and it's FREE AGENT CODY RHODES!
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Old 02-05-2022, 11:12 AM   #7638
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The Forbidden Door is probably Mickie James in a "look, we can do it too" maneuver

The other mystery opponent making their debut is probably Keith Lee
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Old 02-05-2022, 11:20 AM   #7639
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Money talks.

What if Shane buys AEW and there is some sort of "invasion" angle?!
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