04-03-2019, 06:23 PM | #801 |
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MJF getting his comeuppance via Goldberg squash would honestly be pretty cool.
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04-03-2019, 06:36 PM | #802 |
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That would be cool
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04-03-2019, 06:38 PM | #803 |
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04-03-2019, 07:31 PM | #804 |
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That would be such a great moment.
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04-03-2019, 07:44 PM | #805 | |
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Goldberg would be awesome as a guy who randomly comes out, destroys a heel, and leaves. He doesn't even have to be in official matches. I wonder if WWE would waive the no compete clause for Ambrose, given that it seems like they are going out of their way to keep a good relationship with him. |
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04-03-2019, 08:37 PM | #806 |
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Punk doesn’t have to necessarily wrestle to be a draw. I’m sure he’s still an A+ promo and could serve any number of non wrestling roles.
And yeah maybe they could run an in ring return angle at some point. But he’s got a lot more to offer if he wants. |
04-03-2019, 08:39 PM | #807 | |
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However, who is Alex Marvez? The name sounds familiar, reaching back to the old days of the net perhaps? I saw him at the MSG presser and he was fine but I don't know anything about him. |
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04-03-2019, 08:53 PM | #808 |
king of sucks
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I thought jr hated 3 men booths I guess he knows he needs a 3rd man to help him.
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04-03-2019, 09:00 PM | #809 |
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Good for JR getting a big payday. Yes he is well past his prime, but I am sure he was underpaid for most of his career for the amount of value he brought. Plus it probably really pisses Sabu off, which is priceless.
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04-03-2019, 09:15 PM | #810 | |
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04-03-2019, 10:21 PM | #811 |
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I remember reading Alex Marvez's wrestling columns as a kid.
Btw, Jim Ross's expiry date was like 10 years ago at least. |
04-04-2019, 12:00 AM | #812 |
It's a blood match!
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Yeah I'm not crazy for JR but obviously there are worse options.
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04-04-2019, 12:59 AM | #813 |
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I heard him do a good job calling Pete Dunn vs. Tyler Bate but IMO he's too old and gets tired calling a whole show. His NJPW stuff is disinterested at best. TBH though he's never been the same since Heyman left the booth at the end of 01 (though he still had some decent years left).
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04-04-2019, 02:09 AM | #814 |
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He won't be doing play by play, he'll be a 'Senior Advisor'.
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04-04-2019, 02:13 AM | #815 | |
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Someone like Matt Striker or Josh Barnett were not helpful at all for Ross when it came to live NJPW shows. |
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04-04-2019, 02:19 AM | #816 | |
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04-04-2019, 02:29 AM | #817 |
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LOL @ JR and Sonny Kiss
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04-04-2019, 08:34 AM | #818 |
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JR is a prestige signing. He is a beloved “star” in wrestling, was the voice of the WWF when it was the hottest thing on cable, and has worked as an executive in a high level not only next to Vince, but has been involved in managing WCW and Mid-South. He brings a familiarity with not only wrestling fans, but possibly some network executives as well. Guys I’m there 30’s and 40’s in prominent positions would have been teenagers or in their 20’s when wrestling was a fad, and if they were ever fans, even if fleeting, there’s probably some nostalgia for his calls.
By offering him (allegedly) the most lucrative contract a commentator has received, AEW is flexing their muscles. They’re showing that they can and will get Vince loyalists and can outdo the industry leader in certain aspects. He’ll be useful in negotiations with TV networks and merchandising manufacturers. I’m picturing kids toys with JR’s iconic voice “Bah gawding” and selling the talent of today as the hottest things going, with the intent to not only have something with a bit of life, but the memetic quality to remind the parents of kids that there can be wrestling outside Vinceland. JR’s name came up in the early rumors for a reason. He’s one of the most important signings you can make. He is a beacon to the industry that there is life after Vince. He pumps credibility into this thing just by signing on the dotted line. |
04-08-2019, 04:39 AM | #819 | |
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04-08-2019, 06:13 AM | #820 |
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Fuck yeah, team. Get it done.
Really do think the deal might surprise some people. Especially with the streaming options. I mean, Bellator is pretty big compared to a promotion that just launched in January, but I think they got a fucking huge deal for being able to co-promote shows on both Paramount and with DAZN. I'm sure they'd like to know if they can get stars like Randy Orton, Brock Lesnar, Dean Ambrose, Shinsuke Nakamura or Cain Velasquez before announcing the TV deals, because that star power can drive numbers up, but after a certain point that amount of money becomes somewhat trivial. I don't even know if I would want as much as WWE because of the pressure to perform and deliver ratings, etc. At a certain point, knowing you've got platforms to air your content might prove efficient for being viable to those stars as well. They've got enough of a roster around to be able to string out stories for several months, and there are those rumors of Goldberg and Punk too -- neither of whom is insignificant to that mobilizing audience. |
04-08-2019, 03:48 PM | #821 |
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Anyone else thinking HBO since they got out of boxing? They have streaming and they did ppv for boxing
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04-08-2019, 04:21 PM | #822 |
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HBO could be a possibility. Aren’t they premium cable? I would think basic cable has more appeal to advertisers. HBO seems a better option for PPV, or doing a limited number run of specials. But it’s not impossible.
I think Paramount and a WarnerMedia property are the best bets, as far as cable goes, but I’m surprised CW Network hasn’t been as much a target for AEW. Having a network TV suitor probably wouldn’t hurt their discussions. |
04-09-2019, 02:06 AM | #823 |
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Seriously think there is probably more demand for some wrestling more than what people anticipate. Some are kind of reluctant to say this is going to do better than WWE, but I’m so hopeful. WWE are way too hard to follow. A tedious product with the flagship being 3 hours and PPVs going about as long as two Lord of the Rings films back-to-back, and this is a model they are locked into for years. They haven’t even started properly advertising yet.
Really think that if the product is succinct with emphasis in the right places, wrestling fans’ investment might go into AEW surprisingly fast. Plus it might be called by people who don’t sound like robots. What they are looking for: easy to access cable television with a couple of marquee events a year doesn’t insult the fans by presuming they don’t have lives, or suggests that their own television isn’t must-see viewing. WWE is no longer wrestling. It’s a week of variety shows heaped together over a few nights. I think a wrestling product, which has consistently done well on cable, and has a ready-made audience of 2+ million who I *don’t* think are WWE loyalists, could really strike chords and ride a wave of medium momentum. Keep in mind that before this TV is going to launch, they could co-produce a show in Madison Square Garden with Cain Velasquez featured. The WWE audience is more “hardcore” than ever, and more disenfranchised than ever, with no end in sight. I know which product I would choose to subject myself to with some commitment. It’s not even close. |
04-09-2019, 02:16 AM | #824 |
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In addition to that, it’s got such an advantage not being a publicly traded company. WWE *can’t* change gears. There is the implied promise of dividends and reaping in these Saudi deals and TV rights fees. They’re not going to get away with cutting their investors off from $300 million for that extra Raw hour, nor $100 million or whatever for those Saudi shows. They’ve set their metrics, and they’re kind of over the barrel for a show that people can watch once a week, doesn’t feel gentrified, and can fill an arena.
It’s going to be less than half the demand of watching WWE, possibly as accessible, and maybe with more media coverage given its freshness to the sports media marketplace. “Hey, a new wrestling promotion has started up with all these stars and capital,” is a more interesting headline than “WWE ran another show.” Maybe I’m letting my optimism delude me. But say what you want about him, Kevin Sullivan said he knew he could be beating Raw with Nitro in six weeks. AEW is not going to say they want to be a Vincekiller, but I’m seriously hopeful that whatever there is of a nostalgia for a wrestling zeitgeist, or whatever is out there today, latches onto this really fast when they realize it is out there. |
04-09-2019, 02:18 AM | #825 | |
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04-09-2019, 02:20 AM | #826 |
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They’ve got Chuck Taylor.
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04-09-2019, 02:20 AM | #827 |
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They can advertise Luke Perry’s kid.
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04-09-2019, 02:19 PM | #828 |
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DAZN had an add on NXT Takeover which makes me thing that WWE would be smart enough to that to not work with someone who could be showing their biggest competitor since WCW. I'm thinking ESPN, with the outside chance of it being Paramount/DAZN.
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04-09-2019, 03:39 PM | #829 |
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They signed Hikaru Shida. That is a big fucking get right there.
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04-09-2019, 03:41 PM | #830 |
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04-09-2019, 03:44 PM | #831 |
It's a blood match!
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LOL okay, that's funny.
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04-10-2019, 12:40 AM | #832 |
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04-10-2019, 05:59 AM | #833 |
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One of the top stars in all of Joshi.
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04-10-2019, 07:21 AM | #834 |
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Very cool.
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04-10-2019, 01:49 PM | #835 |
quesque fuck?
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Can you order Double or Nothing on normal TV? Or do I have to buy a subscription to something?
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04-10-2019, 02:02 PM | #836 |
It's a blood match!
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04-10-2019, 02:02 PM | #837 |
Triple A
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I think it will be on regular PPV or can be ordered from fite.tv
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04-10-2019, 03:46 PM | #838 |
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I wonder if the eventual TV deal won't be WarnerMedia (Turner Stations) or WGN but maybe Disney...
Disney bought FX but doesn't have plans to change it. FX would be a perfect channel for a wrestling show. Would fit FX branding. Could do 'ppv' specials either live or on ESPN app via Disney. |
04-10-2019, 09:31 PM | #839 |
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Hikaru Shida is hot.
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04-10-2019, 09:41 PM | #840 |
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I'm not familiar with this tweeter but I hope this is legit
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