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Old 05-16-2022, 02:56 AM   #9521
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Where did I say that your opinion on Punk changed?

Also, the pushback you received for criticizing Punk is uncalled for. You don't deserve that.
No, no you didnt, that was just saying people weren't too upset about that stuff until he joined AEW, then suddenly how dare I not love Phil. My point is I was disliking him for years because he is a whiny bitch
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Old 05-16-2022, 02:59 AM   #9522
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No, no you didnt, that was just saying people weren't too upset about that stuff until he joined AEW, then suddenly how dare I not love Phil. My point is I was disliking him for years because he is a whiny bitch
I think I am beating a dead horse at this point but it has been said before that you're not the only who has that opinion of Punk. It's beyond that. You were involved in shenanigans way before it. Don't you lie xrod
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Old 05-16-2022, 03:01 AM   #9523
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I think I am beating a dead horse at this point but it has been said before that you're not the only who has that opinion of Punk. It's beyond that. You were involved in shenanigans way before it. Don't you lie xrod
You should see my rep wall, that is where the REAL spamming goes on. Fan has been memeing me all day ever day for like a month straight one weird and obsessed dude
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With that being said, it's high time you two squashed this feud. It's been long overdue. It's going nowhere. Just be respectful and go your separate ways. Maybe you two will get a tag team run in the future.
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You should see my rep wall, that is where the REAL spamming goes on. Fan has been memeing me all day ever day for like a month straight one weird and obsessed dude
Fan is being reactionary.



Squash the beef you two

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I’m pretty happy with the way things are now, thanks.
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What do you think changed as far as the core concept?
Before they DIDNT pretend Phil was tough
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I’m pretty happy with the way things are now, thanks.
Damb. It was worth the try.
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This is ridiculous. So many of yall screech and whine about Xrod like children. He is owning all of you, over and over again, every day. All he has to do when ya'll start giving him shit because you don't like his opinions and he won't bend the knee is post a stupid, low effort, non-sensical meme that took him 15 seconds to make and you all lose your shit like a bunch of vapid loons. It's like a master class on trolling from 2004. Ya'll talk about him being childish and you can't even refrain from overreacting and responding to his schtick ON QUEUE. It's fucking embarrassing. Jesus Christ.
There’s something amusing about somebody having to “break character” before telling everyone else how to conduct themselves online
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aew is the tale of 2 spectrums. it get little to no criticism from its fandom and gets nothing but criticism from its detractors. its very much the same kind of tribalism thats infected every level of modern culture. objectivity is dead. long live absolutism.


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i think pretty clearly im not in either camp. my loyalty is to a product that makes sense. doesnt matter who makes it. its a pretty low bar tbh. my preferences are wrestling presented as sport. no one did that better than japan until the midish 00s. really when Misawa died it all shifted pretty hard.
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MJF would be great as a manager in WWE.
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I actually think that you have some valid points about AEW, Khan and the mistakes they are making. AEW is a mess. They should have a busy and exciting main event scene with the names and talent they have under contract, but somehow they are underutilizing almost every single one of them. Punk and Bryan were the most popular wrestlers in the world at one stage, and they have been atrocious since coming in. They have wasted so much potential.

What I don’t get is the constant painting of WWE in a positive light. They have the name and reputation, sure, but their product is arguably worse than AEW and their prime show is unwatchable. I don’t get why you are so severe on AEW, but let WWE off the hook.

Their acts are so much staler than those in AEW. I can only imagine an 100 million lead in to Raw getting to watch Happy Corbin, Doloh Ziggler and the most tired stable in wrestling, New Day, aiding them navigate 3 hours of trash.

All the same problems exist. As an example, instead of giving us a compelling New Day break up that could have elevated two guys into an intriguing world title feud, they just half ass it and keep them together because the guys enjoy it and it sells merch. The reunion would sell the merch too, give us the story first!

There is no compelling TV, there is no selling or psychology, and there is nothing to make you want to care about the story, but it goes for both companies. They are both making the same mistakes.

Great matches was never what wrestling was about, and it wasn’t why the majority of people tuned in. Austin’s best run came at his most immobile because the story and the character had people hooked and gave us a true star. It’s the stories and the stars and it always was. I think that fact is lost to both companies.
I tend to watch highlights which makes the product way less stale to me. And it’s a comparative thing. I REALLY don’t like AEW. Part of what annoys me so much about it is that it had this potential to be something else and really change the landscape. It’s made a lot of what the WWE does look sane to me. I appreciate the steady hand they seem to have more than I did when I was one of the loudest critics here. And look, they do have the best main event scene, the best tag division and the best women’s division in the world. I don’t know how anyone can really argue against that.
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Old 05-16-2022, 12:57 PM   #9533
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with MJFs size using him right is making him a chicken shit heel in your undercard. he's a little dude next to little dudes. you put him next to grown men and he's going to look like a ring announcer
You might be right there. I agree that chickenshit is the way to go. I think he could be inserted into main events here and there in the current climate though.
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cody was usurped by the money mark. in codys mind there was to be a very different company with cody driving creative. look back on the early days, pre-aew even, and youll see the core concept was somethin very different. and imo much better.
This is 100% on the money.

I remember when people called AEW out on having inconsistent rules in the beginning. Cody got on Twitter and was like “I don’t think you’ll be seeing that again.” Welp…

There was very clearly a vision difference between Cody and Tony. I think that wedge still exists between AEW and some of its more talented roster members. And I think that gives them finite time to utilize some of these people.
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The tag division is the only one that can really be argued right now but I'm with you in thinking WWE is still better. It wouldn't be close if WWE merged the tag divisions.

Don't get me wrong, AEW has a few good teams. But FTR is the only one worth a damn in the grand scheme of things rn. The Bucks suck as they always have and always will. Who else really matters as a tag team rn? I guess I'd say the potential is absolutely there for them to have the better tag division. They have most of the pieces already (they really needed to talk warner into letting them sign The Briscos) they just haven't been put into the right places yet. Really think they should lean into it more and try to make that their thing.
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The tag division is the only one that can really be argued right now but I'm with you in thinking WWE is still better. It wouldn't be close if WWE merged the tag divisions.

Don't get me wrong, AEW has a few good teams. But FTR is the only one worth a damn in the grand scheme of things rn. The Bucks suck as they always have and always will. Who else really matters as a tag team rn? I guess I'd say the potential is absolutely there for them to have the better tag division. They have most of the pieces already (they really needed to talk warner into letting them sign The Briscos) they just haven't been put into the right places yet. Really think they should lean into it more and try to make that their thing.
Yeah, I’m counting the teams across the shows since they can very quickly remedy their separation and mix them around as they see fit. It’s FTR in AEW. That’s it. I will count The Bucks for that audience, even though I completely agree that they suck. Danielson & Moxley?

I mean, you count Edge & Priest and Styles & Balor and you’ve trumped that right there. RKBro, Alpha Academy and the Street Profits take Raw way over the top alone.
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Yeah, I’m counting the teams across the shows since they can very quickly remedy their separation and mix them around as they see fit. It’s FTR in AEW. That’s it. I will count The Bucks for that audience, even though I completely agree that they suck. Danielson & Moxley?

I mean, you count Edge & Priest and Styles & Balor and you’ve trumped that right there. RKBro, Alpha Academy and the Street Profits take Raw way over the top alone.
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Is the story there that Jeff Hardy has done a lot of drugs? Because I agree.
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Is the story there that Jeff Hardy has done a lot of drugs? Because I agree.
Quite possible, maybe he thinks ripping off the Fiend, who ripped off American Horror Story, who ripped off tons of other media that had killer clowns, that ripped off John Wayne Gacy, is a genius idea, all made possible by Crystal Meth!
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bro, you gotta list gacy's clown influences, too!
If John Wayne Gacy could see into the future, he would NOT model himself after CM Clown!

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Old 05-16-2022, 08:37 PM   #9545
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yo gacy woulda had punk tied up in the rope trick and in the crawlspace no problem
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Old 05-16-2022, 09:24 PM   #9546
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tbf he would have its not like punk can even partially defend himself
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John Wayne Gacy was NOT clairvoyant though as far as I know. So we still need to clarify who his ACTUAL influences were before we can blame crystal meth for dub bad.
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can yiu prove he wasnt? I DONT THINK YOU CAN
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If John Wayne Gacy could see into the future, he would NOT model himself after CM Clown!

Overexposing him made his Dynamite appearances seem less special. Tony really knows how to burn through years worth of content in a matter of weeks.
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bro, you gotta list gacy's clown influences, too!

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Through his membership in a local Moose Club, Gacy became aware of a "Jolly Joker" clown club, whose members regularly performed at fundraising events and parades in addition to voluntarily entertaining hospitalized children.[43] In late 1975, Gacy joined the clown club and created his own clown characters "Pogo the Clown" and "Patches the Clown", devising his own makeup and costumes. He described Pogo as a "happy clown", whereas Patches was a "more serious" character.[49]

He briefly portrayed a third clown known as "Punky the Clown", who was a whiny bitch clown, however he quickly abandoned the persona as it consisted of getting beaten up by children and failing to maintain an audience.[50]
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The Warner Discovery Upfront gave AEW its Wednesday top billing.

Red Velvet: apparently the new face of AEW
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why? i read in one of your reddit memes he's an emasculated cuck so he's gonna love this.
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