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Old 01-23-2010, 07:06 PM   #961
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That is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
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Old 01-23-2010, 07:11 PM   #962
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Until of course it actually goes down, then the talk of the town will be "Who's taking over next time?" and "Wow this version is the best yet!" Shit like that. If Hollywood could give a shit about continuity, then let's adopt a system that gives many creators an opportunity to present these characters.
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Old 01-23-2010, 07:25 PM   #963
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Yes! Lets have even more X-men: Last Stand, and Batman Forevor, instead of sticking with directors that actually do a great job with the material!

And the talk of the town would be "Why the fuck don't they stick to one director."
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Old 01-23-2010, 07:28 PM   #964
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It's just barely like that now. You speak of fantasies. After two movies these series are doomed to some sort of drama. Might as well cut to the chase.
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Old 01-23-2010, 07:28 PM   #965
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And yes I know some of the best movies were sequels to director's initial efforts, I don't care.
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Old 01-23-2010, 07:32 PM   #966
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That's the thing though. the ones that are getting rebooted right away are the ones that suck. The system we have is fine.

They make a movie. if it sucks balls, then they find someone else to make the next one. If it's good, they stick with that team.

Common fucking sense.

That's why people are upset by this, and why they were upset with singer leaving x-men. They were both good franchises, run by people who understood the material.
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Old 01-23-2010, 07:35 PM   #967
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Fuck the system.
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So is this about comic movies or you being anti-establishment?

Honestly, just because franchises always go to shit doesn't mean they shouldn't strive to make them last. They managed to start making comic films into actual great films, and then they perfected the art of the sequel. I'm sure the sustainable trilogy, or even 4-5 movie series is next.

Believe it or not some studios have learned from their mistakes, and comic franchises have come a long long way.
If they just did a new take everytime not only would it get boring and repetitive, there'd be no excitement to where the franchise can go next and no lasting connection with the characters and universe.
There'd be no Dark Knight, X2 and Spiderman 2. Saying "I don't care" as a rebuttal to that is a horrible cop out. Those are arguably the best 3 superhero movies of alltime. Actually, along with Watchmen and Iron Man, that would be my list
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Also, the new Hulk wasn't a bad movie but look at how it suffered. It was a semi-reboot of Hulk about 4 years after his first movie and the general public didn't give a fuck. They probably thought to themselves, "didn't they already do this? No thanks."
There's gotta be sometime for people to renew their interest in the idea
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Old 01-24-2010, 12:25 AM   #971
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You saying I was for that?
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Old 01-24-2010, 12:32 AM   #972
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There'd be no Dark Knight, X2 and Spiderman 2. Saying "I don't care" as a rebuttal to that is a horrible cop out. Those are arguably the best 3 superhero movies of alltime.
I agree with you, but to say they (the studios) learn - Spiderman 3 and X3 were, well, not an improvement from their respective predecessor. There is no point taking one step forward if you're then going to take one back.
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What about every movie being a reboot?
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Old 01-24-2010, 12:38 AM   #974
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Not a reboot, a new perspective.
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They would be sequels as it were. Reference comic arcs.
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Oh yea. So like Figs said, X3 and Batman Forever. Even worse imo
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I know, I get what you are saying, and like I said I agree with you - I do like and want to see these new titles that have come out over the last decade have some kind of 'saga' feel to them - but still, the mistakes that they made in the third installments are ones like; too many characters used 'just because it's the third film' (X3 and Spiderman 3), which in turn rush or diminish story and character arcs that could easily be spread into another film or even spared entirely for another film.

Its like they end at 3 films anyway, and Spiderman was the ONE FUCKING FRANCHISE that we knew from the get go that they were determined to make it big, 6 films, same cast, same director - I was so fucking grateful I would get to see that shit - and now, the one that would of been comic book film's flagship, shining example, is now not going to happen.
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They would be sequels as it were. Reference comic arcs.
Are you trying to suggest this new Spiderman film to be made (high school, no Maguire/Raimi) would be classed as a sequel? because that would be incorrect.
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No Sinister Six finish.

Maybe the Avengers Initiative will lead the way.
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Are you trying to suggest this new Spiderman film to be made (high school, no Maguire/Raimi) would be classed as a sequel? because that would be incorrect.
No. Considering the setting and tone that would be a joke.
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Kano, to be fair, it's sony's fault that spider-man 3 failed to live up to1 and 2. They forced raimi to shoehorn venom into the movie, when he should have been the main villain for 4. Movie would have had much better otherwise.

And that brings me to my next point. Kalyx, you realize that this is all happening because sony wants things done their way, regardless of what the director's vision is, right? Raimi didn't get tired of spider-man. He left because sony wouldn't let him do the vulture, and wanted to control the movie.

That goes against pretty much everything you're arguing for here.
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Spider-Man 3 would have been pretty bad without Venom too. With the whole Sandman actually killed Uncle Ben thing. Unless Sony forced that too.
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Sandman killing ben was fine, imo. The only problem was the scene at the end between him and peter seemed tacked on and awkward. Like he just walked up to him after the fight, said sorry and walked away.

But that's because by that point, venom was the main villain. That scene would have had a lot more impact, if sandman's character was built up a little more, and if he was the only villain in the final fight.
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And that brings me to my next point. Kalyx, you realize that this is all happening because sony wants things done their way, regardless of what the director's vision is, right? Raimi didn't get tired of spider-man. He left because sony wouldn't let him do the vulture, and wanted to control the movie.

That goes against pretty much everything you're arguing for here.
I'm not on the studio's side.
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And just to be clear, I will give this movie a chance. However I'm not going to be super optimistic like kalyx, or be happy that they pushed away a director that captured the feel of the book perfectly.
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I'm not on the studio's side.
The reboot was the studio's idea, and you seem to think it's a great idea.
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The reboot was the studio's idea, and you seem to think it's a great idea.
Than you haven't been reading.
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FUCK

Damn you, Sony.

FUCK

Well... Can Marvel at least take Spidey back and add him to the Movie-verse? If this is going to happen at the very least I'd like an Iron Man or Captain America cameo.

FUCK
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You seemed to change your mind pretty quick, considering you just said it would be a good idea to do this for every movie.

Good luck in that fake trial of yours.
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You seemed to change your mind pretty quick, considering you just said it would be a good idea to do this for every movie.

Good luck in that fake trial of yours.
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Ya know... if every movie was a reboot and people got used to different teams on the same project (like comics now), that would be better. radical, but better in a way.
Defense rest. And thanks for the luck.
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anyone watched Planet Hulk yet?
as usual a solid outing for the cartoon movie world
was it not silver surfer that Hulk fought in the comic?
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Is that out already? Didn't see it yet.
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Yeah...they went with Adam Warlock for some reason. Something about the Surfer's rights not being with Marvel.
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Kano, to be fair, it's sony's fault that spider-man 3 failed to live up to1 and 2. They forced raimi to shoehorn venom into the movie, when he should have been the main villain for 4. Movie would have had much better otherwise.
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Still sucked as a film.
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It's not just a team super hero movie with a bunch of characters with powers, its three people, four including Hulk, five including Nick Fury-who you have seen before in other movies, coming together for the very first time.
So I presume:

Captain America
Iron Man
Thor
Nick Fury
Hulk

Possibly confirmed right there and now. We've also read about Black Widow, War Machine, Wanda Maximoff, and Hank Pym. But not nearly as conclusive as the above list. Note that they say "Hulk" a lot, and not Bruce Banner. It seems doubtful that Ed Norton will be joining this.
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I read every thor book, from his first appearance, all the way to the newest shit. Probably my favorite character. So it's good to hear they're going for the best runs on it, for the source.

Favorite comic book moment ever might be after civil war, when Iron man tried to make him register, and Thor bitch smacks him so hard his suit shuts down, and practically makes tony pee his pants. So fucking awesome.
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So I presume:

Captain America
Iron Man
Thor
Nick Fury
Hulk

Possibly confirmed right there and now. We've also read about Black Widow, War Machine, Wanda Maximoff, and Hank Pym. But not nearly as conclusive as the above list. Note that they say "Hulk" a lot, and not Bruce Banner. It seems doubtful that Ed Norton will be joining this.
I'll bet they stick with the first 5, and save the others for the inevitable sequel.
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