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Old 06-06-2022, 12:19 AM   #10041
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Old 06-06-2022, 12:55 AM   #10042
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Fun history: Undertaker vs Mankind is the most memorable of all the Hell in a Cell matches. Mankind went off the Cell and through it. Why did he feel the need to do those things? Because the Undertaker was injured going into that match. His injury? A broken foot.
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What exactly is an interim world champion? They are only champ until Punk comes back?
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Old 06-06-2022, 08:34 AM   #10045
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What exactly is an interim world champion? They are only champ until Punk comes back?
In MMA when a reigning champion suffers an injury that will keep them out under a year (usually that's the time line) the company with make a match between the top contenders an Interim Championship match where the winner will be paid in full as a champion but under the understanding they will fight the reigning (injured) champion when he returns in an Undisputed Championship fight.
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Look, while I don’t deride guys for not performing injured, it has to occur to me that this was major “shots fired” and very strategic on the part of Cody to deliver where the ageing, pampered star of AEW would take a dive. It definitely makes one guy seem more “punk” than the other guy.
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Concussions can happen anywhere, and it may be unreasonable for me to pin it on the company, and Danielson is making his own choices — but I will be quite cranky if his career ends in the swamp that is AEW.

Eh, it’s his choice. No one forced him to go. I guess it’s on him to ruin what he’s built. It’s just frustrating. Major Mick Foley in TNA vibes.
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In MMA when a reigning champion suffers an injury that will keep them out under a year (usually that's the time line) the company with make a match between the top contenders an Interim Championship match where the winner will be paid in full as a champion but under the understanding they will fight the reigning (injured) champion when he returns in an Undisputed Championship fight.
And only the winner of that undisputed championship fight’s reign gets recognized, right?

So if, say, Moxley wins but then loses to Punk, Punk’s reign will be recognized as having never ended and Moxley’s reign never actually happened. But if Moxley beats Pink, Punk’s reign retroactively ends when Moxley became interim champion and Moxley’s reign retroactively begins then.
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For the same reason Hirooki Goto is getting a more clear shot at the belt than any AEW top contender not named Jon Moxley is.
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Give me Moxley v Goto. Fucking love Goto.
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Old 06-06-2022, 04:57 PM   #10053
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Psst, it’s bad booking. AEW sucks.
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Lol, MJF has gotten himself removed from AEW promotional material by WBD. It would be amazing if he actually went the full Pillmam (instead of just faux Pillman) and took the shoot, made it a work, then shot his way out of his AEW contract.
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I’m just waiting for the “You’ve got to actually fire me to make this work, Tony.”
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He should do it after convincing TK he should be Interim AEW World Champion.
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Old 06-06-2022, 05:25 PM   #10057
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And only the winner of that undisputed championship fight’s reign gets recognized, right?

So if, say, Moxley wins but then loses to Punk, Punk’s reign will be recognized as having never ended and Moxley’s reign never actually happened. But if Moxley beats Pink, Punk’s reign retroactively ends when Moxley became interim champion and Moxley’s reign retroactively begins then.
That's not the way it works in the UFC but I could see AEW doing it that way, but also I don't see Mox getting the Undisputed belt over Punk tbh.
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That’s how I thought interim titles worked (in boxing at least). What’s the point of having an interim championship if that’s not the case? Why not just strip the title, crown a new champion and then let the old champion instantly be #1 contender when he returns?
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In this instance it’s because they don’t want the record to show Punk’s first reign lasting 3 days.
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In this instance it’s because they don’t want the record to show Punk’s first reign lasting 3 days.
Instead it’s going to have asterisks, carets, tiny numbers and a different colour of shading on the row.
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Lol, MJF has gotten himself removed from AEW promotional material by WBD. It would be amazing if he actually went the full Pillmam (instead of just faux Pillman) and took the shoot, made it a work, then shot his way out of his AEW contract.
I think they shot themselves into a work, then worked themselves into a shoot.

I mean, imagine, dropping an F Bomb on National Television in front of Network Executives. But hey, Game of Thrones on HBO is the exact same thing as AEW on TBS, so we should have the same shit be featured on both, right?
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Because of gas prices the gates were actually higher for DON so...
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… Gate and paid attendance aren’t the same thing. There’s no contradiction there.

He said HIAC had a higher gate. Some idiot claimed he said that HIAC had a higher paid attendance and he rightly corrected him. Lol
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Old 06-08-2022, 12:17 AM   #10067
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I’m just waiting for the “You’ve got to actually fire me to make this work, Tony.”
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Old 06-08-2022, 12:24 AM   #10068
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I think they shot themselves into a work, then worked themselves into a shoot.

I mean, imagine, dropping an F Bomb on National Television in front of Network Executives. But hey, Game of Thrones on HBO is the exact same thing as AEW on TBS, so we should have the same shit be featured on both, right?
What's funny to me about it is that we had shit like Nick Gage and the infamous pizza cutter right before a paid pizza spot not getting any eyebrows raised until the competition essentially narc'd on them, but then a guy doing something interesting has to be ushered away quickly.

Tony can't hire the Briscoes because of something one of the brothers said a decade ago, but almost everybody else up and down the card can be motherfuckers.

Honestly at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the network unironically pulls the "international object" card and "no gratutious violence". Not even in reference to WCW either; the suit suggesting it will think it's a totally new idea they just thought up.
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Old 06-08-2022, 01:12 AM   #10069
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What's funny to me about it is that we had shit like Nick Gage and the infamous pizza cutter right before a paid pizza spot not getting any eyebrows raised until the competition essentially narc'd on them, but then a guy doing something interesting has to be ushered away quickly.
Yes. It was the competition. Even I admit that it's likely that someone from WWE called the higher ups at Dominoes... after the shit storm started. To cover their asses. Because the story isn't going to mention AEW at all, it's going to mention "Pro Wrestling." And for the average person, "Pro Wrestling" = "WWE." I mean, it's not like there were more than a couple of folks throwing shit on Twitter about how Nick Gage was doing Nick Gage things while his weapon of choice was being used as intended during a commercial. And it's not like someone tagged Dominoes, thinking it was funny. And Dominoes likely doesn't want to have their product associated with a bank addicted drug robber.

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Tony can't hire the Briscoes because of something one of the brothers said a decade ago, but almost everybody else up and down the card can be motherfuckers.
It could be the fact that a decade ago, One of the Briscoes said a Homophobia. Or it could be just as likely that there are promos of them online from this year where half of the content was the word "Fuck." Where do you think my "Standards and Practices" bit came from in that one booking post I made? Because Dem Boys like to use spicy language that turn away people who buy shit.

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Honestly at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the network unironically pulls the "international object" card and "no gratutious violence". Not even in reference to WCW either; the suit suggesting it will think it's a totally new idea they just thought up.
I mean, I get it. I really do. However, some things don't make sense. Primarily: How the shit does people scream conspiracy when there is a much more logical reason for things going wrong in AEW.

Like, the Executives were right there at the show, invited by Khan himself. They heard MJF say Shit and Fuck. I get being into the entertainment aspect of wrestling, but it's also a business. Said Executives are thinking dollars and cents. And advertisers don't tend to care for edgier content. Especially lately. I am a fucking Unemployed Auto Parts Salesman (as of Today, long story), and somehow I understand how Television works better than the Son of a Billionaire who mismanages 2 sports teams and 2 wrestling promotions (when is the first ROH show, btw?).
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Think I’d like to see Eddie Kingston win the interim title. It’s different, he’s one af, and being a gritty underdog champion is something they haven’t had yet. Who knows how serious Punk’s injury is but if it’s 8-12 weeks, a Kingston run with his promo ability wouldn’t be bad, IMO. And I just love Eddie Kingston.

It’ll prob be Moxley though.
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I’d love Kingston to get a world title run even if it’s just an interim one but if they do that he’d have to drop it to someone like Jericho before Punk gets back or commit to a Punk heel turn because Punk taking the title from Eddie would make people hate him.
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Lol, MJF has gotten himself removed from AEW promotional material by WBD. It would be amazing if he actually went the full Pillmam (instead of just faux Pillman) and took the shoot, made it a work, then shot his way out of his AEW contract.
Hold up. Isn’t this part of the work? Wouldn’t he have been removed/pulled his merch to sell the angle? Didn’t WWE do exactly this with Sasha/Naomi? Isn’t it art* imitating life?

* Not calling AEW art.
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Estimates for Double or Nothing are 155k buys, continuing the downward trend each PPV has had since their all time high 205k buys for All Out.

Tiny Khan of course spun it completely different, ignoring the last 3 PPVs and bragging they are growing their business because they did 9,000 more buys than last years Double or Nothing.

I suppose if his stupid rich daddy is dumb enough to believe that increasing the spending by 3 times to get an extra 9000 buys shows growth, maybe Tiny is a better Khanman than we all know.
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Hold up. Isn’t this part of the work? Wouldn’t he have been removed/pulled his merch to sell the angle? Didn’t WWE do exactly this with Sasha/Naomi? Isn’t it art* imitating life?

* Not calling AEW art.
I’m not saying it isn’t part of the work. I’m just saying it would be funny if he worked Tony free of his contract and it became a shoot again.
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Would be VERY funny if he worked himself into a shoot to work Tony into a shoot just to go to Vince and work HIM into a shoot which becomes a work so he can shoot himself into a work with Tony that then becomes a shoot.
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I’m not saying it isn’t part of the work. I’m just saying it would be funny if he worked Tony free of his contract and it became a shoot again.
It was more the bit where you specify that he was removed “by WBD”.

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Lol, MJF has gotten himself removed from AEW promotional material by WBD. It would be amazing if he actually went the full Pillmam (instead of just faux Pillman) and took the shoot, made it a work, then shot his way out of his AEW contract.
That’s the part that made it sound like you weren’t considering it to be part of the work.
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It was more the bit where you specify that he was removed “by WBD”.



That’s the part that made it sound like you weren’t considering it to be part of the work.
It was an edict issued by WBD. It’s all part of the work. The work is bafflingly stupid.

I would just find it amusing if MJF has convinced Tony to work with him to the point MJF can actually get out of his AEW deal early.
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It is neither artistic nor combat, but I am indifferent to it and it does clox up my television screen.

Just kidding: AEW doesn’t have a TV deal in Australia.
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Forbidden Door looks like the raging shits.

Tanahashi vs. Moxley for the fake title? Okada vs. Diamond Hearst Page in the most underwhelming use for Okada outside a meaningless tag? Holy shit. This card is piss water.
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