11-12-2019, 06:08 PM | #1001 |
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WWE's lucky the 3rd hour wasn't way lower since outside of the main event, that was one of the worst ever in terms of quality.
Last week's Smackdown had a poor 2nd hour in terms of quality but the first hour was better than any of RAW's last night. |
11-12-2019, 07:06 PM | #1002 |
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Read the results last Friday, and it sounded like a house show.
WWE clearly has no real pressure from USA Network to improve ratings, otherwise there is no way that script gets on air. |
11-13-2019, 05:09 AM | #1003 |
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WWE structures their rosters so weirdly. Let Heyman have all the guys Vince doesn’t “get.” Put everyone he wants on FOX. Let Heyman run Raw autonomously.
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11-13-2019, 07:07 PM | #1004 |
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Last night's WWE Backstage episode didn't crack Showbuzz's Top 150 so another abysmal number happened. Lowest viewership that got tracked was a show on Univision that did 93k at the #136 spot.
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11-13-2019, 08:25 PM | #1005 | |
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Backstage ended up doubling last week's viewership according to PWI.
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11-13-2019, 08:41 PM | #1006 |
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so if Backstage brought in 100k viewers and wasn't in the top 150 how the hell does Univision get ranked 136 with 93k viewers? Seems screwy.
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11-13-2019, 08:52 PM | #1007 | |
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11-13-2019, 10:48 PM | #1008 |
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Don’t know why you’re surprised. When you have a currently moronic, senile and/or delusional old man running things, you’re quality is going to be shit. This shouldn’t even be remotely shocking to anyone.
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11-14-2019, 12:05 PM | #1009 |
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11-14-2019, 05:24 PM | #1010 |
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AEW - 957K
NXT - 750K |
11-14-2019, 05:31 PM | #1011 |
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I think next weeks ratings are going to be a key indicator in where they are going to settle for the time being. This episode has the obvious post-PPV bump; let's see if it stays around there. I honestly think it may go up after this weeks show though.
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11-14-2019, 05:33 PM | #1012 |
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AEW - This week was a really good show so it could.
NXT has the Survivor Series go-home show next week as well. |
11-14-2019, 06:05 PM | #1013 |
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Oh yeah....when the main roster will invade them :/
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11-14-2019, 06:28 PM | #1014 | |
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Those 2 weeks are also NXT's strongest chances of beating AEW because if they don't, then the only time its happening this year is when AEW takes their Christmas week break. By then AEW will have settle in for a bit and NXT will start settling down since no more main roster shows to help boost interest. |
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11-14-2019, 08:03 PM | #1015 |
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NXT is consistently a better in ring product all the way around. AEW can't touch them on women's wrestling though. AEW wins on storylines and just looking better in bigger arenas plus having a much better Tag Division.
This is coming from someone who really likes AEW and has been to two shows already. I always start with AEW off my DVR when I can start watching. |
11-15-2019, 04:36 AM | #1016 |
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AEW has got quite a few advantages, but I don’t think they can count on them long-term, especially if NXT loads itself up, pays off some big stuff and starts travelling. It’s a good thing AEW are bringing along MJF. They need stars.
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11-16-2019, 12:16 PM | #1017 |
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Smackdown:
Hr 1 - 2.45 Hr 2 - 2.26 Avg - 2.35 million viewers (credit - showbuzzdaily) Most Watched on YT: Bray talks about DBry - 436k Undisputed Era - 374k Bray's new title - 362k |
11-16-2019, 01:29 PM | #1018 |
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Here's how SD has done since debuting on FOX
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11-16-2019, 06:15 PM | #1019 |
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Not surprised it dropped since once you take out the NXT invasion stuff and Draft, Smackdown has been mostly dull and/or boring since the move to FOX.
Probably would be looking at a lot closer to a sub 2 million number if you took out the boost SD gets just for being on FOX. |
11-17-2019, 04:22 AM | #1020 |
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CyNick used to claim WWE was massively successful because it “dummied” everything on cable (even when it lost in the ratings). Would be interesting to hear him excuse it getting “dummied” 3 times over by Hawaii 50.
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11-19-2019, 05:35 PM | #1021 |
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RAW was up by around 69k compared to last week's show albeit with another sub 2-million 3rd hour.
1st hour was lower compared to last week but 2nd and 3rd hours were higher. Took the #4, #5, and #6 spots in the demo rankings compared to last week's #4, #5, and #8 rankings. 8PM - 2,245,000 9PM - 2,211,000 10PM - 1,925,000 |
11-19-2019, 07:46 PM | #1022 |
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2.13 average
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11-20-2019, 07:30 PM | #1023 |
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Last night's episode of WWE Backstage ended up doing 180k viewers and a #104 ranking according to Showbuzz Daily.
So basically adding Punk was worth an extra 80k viewers compared to last week's numbers. |
11-21-2019, 05:24 PM | #1024 |
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AEW - 893k
18 to 34 - .25 18 to 49 - .39 NXT - 916k 18 to 34 - .19 18 to 49 - .30 |
11-21-2019, 05:43 PM | #1025 |
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That's one of those Good/Bad type situations for NXT.
Good that they managed to hit over 900k and break AEW's streak but at the same time, AEW still managed to rank higher than NXT (#8 vs. #14) and the gap being that small despite everything going into NXT's show. Also seems AEW was hit a lot harder from the Presidential debates and NXT got more of WWE's older main shows audience to carry over for their show. |
11-22-2019, 01:33 AM | #1026 | |
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11-22-2019, 05:58 PM | #1027 |
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Based on the Observer Newsletter, NXT's start and over-run ended up being the key reasons why they were able to beat AEW this week. If only the over-run was the strongest, NXT likely wouldn't have been able to beat AEW.
NXT's show started out higher than AEW, spiked with the Becky Lynch segment, and then went into a noticeable freefall until the final 30 minutes and over-run. AEW started out lower, was mostly steady in the 1st hour, spiked big by the time of Jericho's segment, had a noticeable fall afterwards, and then managed to rebound to around its starting level by the end of the show. In terms of the 18-49 demo, NXT didn't beat AEW in any of the head-to-head quarters. The Becky segment was the closest NXT ever got to AEW's demo numbers. |
11-23-2019, 07:31 PM | #1028 |
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SmackDown:
Hr 1 - 2.7 Hr 2 - 2.5 Avg - 2.6 million (credit - showbuzzdaily) |
11-26-2019, 02:39 AM | #1029 |
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Last week was:
RAW - 2.13 AEW - 893k NXT - 916k SD - 2.60 Will be interesting to see what post ppv bump RAW/NXT gets and how AEW/NXT/SD do airing the day before and after Thanksgiving in the U.S. |
11-26-2019, 05:24 PM | #1030 |
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No ppv bump for RAW, it actually went down instead
Hr 1 - 2.24 Hr 2 - 2.19 Hr 3 - 1.89 avg - 2.11 million (credit - showbuzzdaily) Most Watched on YT: Rey wins US Title - 1.1 million Rusev arrested - 1 million KO stuns Seth - 930k |
11-26-2019, 05:35 PM | #1031 |
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If I had to guess, probably just audience fatigue considering it was the 4th day in a row of WWE shows and very little meaningful Survivor Series fallout happened. Outside of Rollins opening promo, felt a lot more like a regular RAW than something coming off of a PPV.
Smackdown used to have the same problem whenever WWE would run a TakeOver on top of a PPV for a weekend. In terms of competition, WWE was lucky the MNF game was a blowout by half and one of the weaker games this season in terms of viewership because of it. |
11-27-2019, 02:39 AM | #1032 |
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Raw is really the least interesting show wrestling has got going at the moment. SmackDown has the FOX presence, AEW is new and not WWE and NXT is at least something they are trying with to get over on the same night as AEW. Raw is just three hours of stale bread.
AEW and NXT being that close is basically a watch in terms in USA vs. TNT, given how ratings are calculated, but overall it has to be considered the second win for NXT, given that Nielsen goes with about 10% either way and his doesn't factor in the WWE Network numbers for NXT. Will be interesting to see if this starts a new trend of NXT beating out AEW each week. |
11-27-2019, 06:38 PM | #1033 |
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WWE Backstage ended up doing 121k for viewers and a #125 ranking for last night's episode without CM Punk. Also a 0.5 in the 18-49 demo ranking.
Had it dropped by another 0.1 of a point, would have been in the 140 range for rankings and even possibly not get ranked at all. |
11-30-2019, 01:36 PM | #1034 |
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Smackdown:
Hr 1 - 2.35 Hr 2 - 2.32 Avg - 2.33 million (credit - showbuzzdaily) Most Watched on YT: Roman vs Roode - 745k Sheamus Promo - 515k Fiend attacks DBry - 483k |
11-30-2019, 05:42 PM | #1035 |
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Within a span of 2 months, SmackDown went from having a very sizable lead in terms of the key demo rankings and hitting the 1.0+ target FOX wants to now being under half of its initial weeks and barely beating other shows in the demo rankings.
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12-01-2019, 07:34 PM | #1036 |
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It's because they have changed literally nothing. Smackdown isn't as horribly written as Raw, but it certainly hasn't gotten any better.
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12-02-2019, 05:48 PM | #1037 |
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Hmm...
AEW: 663,000 / 0.26 in 18-49 NXT: 810,000 / 0.24 in 18-49 NXT wins for the second week in a row. AEW gets its lowest viewer number yet... http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/article...1-27-2019.html |
12-02-2019, 06:08 PM | #1038 |
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Everything went down last week other than NXT tho
RAW did bad and SD did bad |
12-02-2019, 06:20 PM | #1039 |
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Bit interesting that none of WWE's show got a PPV bump from Survivor Series. Not sure if that's ever happened before where no WWE show got a bump from a PPV.
Old people and AEW having one of its smallest ever advantages in the key demo were the reasons for NXT's big win last week. |
12-04-2019, 01:00 PM | #1040 |
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RAW:
Hr 1 - 2.42 Hr 2 - 2.28 Hr 3 - 1.93 Avg - 2.21 million (credit - showbuzzdaily) Most Watched on YT: Lana/Lashley arrested - 2.6 mil Rey saves Orton - 1.6 mil RKO on AJ - 1.4 mil |