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Old 12-04-2019, 05:06 PM   #1041
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Last night's WWE Backstage episode ended up doing 138k viewers and a #103 ranking.

It also did a 0.8 in terms of the key demo.
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Old 12-04-2019, 06:11 PM   #1043
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NXT went up to 989 after DVR was added
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Old 12-04-2019, 07:35 PM   #1044
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Lol that so doesn't count.

AEW is getting desperate
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:02 PM   #1045
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AEW needs to count dogs that were in the room too as part of the ratings. Maybe cats too. That'll make them win the WAR
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They should also count dead people who would have watched had they been alive.
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All it means is people are watching NXT and DVRing AEW so there's no way that counts. They are the second option.
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Old 12-05-2019, 01:35 AM   #1048
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They should also count dead people who would have watched had they been alive.
In fairness, given WWE's superiority in the 50+ age demo, WWE should certainly factor that in as well.
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Old 12-05-2019, 01:37 AM   #1049
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All it mean is people are watching NXT and DVRing AEW so there's no way that counts. They are the second option.
As predicted. People mocked the "marathon not a sprint" line, but that's very clearly been their approach. Let AEW cool before they start using main roster names and actually doing angles and whatnot.
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In fairness, given WWE's superiority in the 50+ age demo, WWE should certainly factor that in as well.
I'm fairly certain anyone who still watches Raw is clinically dead.
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Old 12-05-2019, 01:40 AM   #1051
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As predicted. People mocked the "marathon not a sprint" line, but that's very clearly been their approach. Let AEW cool before they start using main roster names and actually doing angles and whatnot.
Yeah, that's gonna work out really fucking well in the long run. Just what folks wanna see, NXT becoming Raw and SD. JFC.
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Old 12-05-2019, 02:51 AM   #1053
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Yeah, that's gonna work out really fucking well in the long run. Just what folks wanna see, NXT becoming Raw and SD. JFC.
I don't think that's the plan though. I mean, Meltzer said it would be at the start, but that was obviously just assumption or baseless speculation, and it didn't really make sense. I mean, this company doesn't do things logically, but AEW only really exists because of fans' frustrations towards them, so it wouldn't make sense to give them more of the same to cure that.

This is a Triple H boutique product and something that is being used to shop more content and the idea that he can run things when Vince is sitting in an Alpha Entertainment boardroom. There's nothing inherently wrong with a lot of the WWE talent, and most of them would do damn well in AEW if they were there. I think the plan is going to be more Daniel Bryan vs. Adam Cole than Natalya shows up and farts in Dakota Kai's coffee.

But hey, this is WWE. I do think that their desire to smoosh everything is even stronger than their desire to fuck everything up. It's smooshing everything that lets them fuck everything up. And so far, NXT has been a logical product. I understand the anxieties behind "This is WWE" though.
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Old 12-05-2019, 03:07 AM   #1054
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Like, not to derail this into content that much, but you could potentially be looking at the next Takeover/When Worlds Collide/whatever the fuck they call it featuring:

* Adam Cole vs. Tommaso Ciampa for the NXT Title
* Shayna Baslzer vs. Rhea Ripley for the NXT Women's Title
* Finn Balor vs. Johnny Gargano
* Roderick Strong vs. Velveteen Dream for the NXT North American Title

All of that has been built up and held off, and all of it has some sort of appeal to that hardcore fan. I think the arguments that NXT are "hot shotting" and blowing their wad with stuff is a bit premature.
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Old 12-05-2019, 03:31 AM   #1055
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Worlds Collide 2020 is set to be NXT vs. NXT UK theme. The first one included 205 Live but the brand has been in bad shape due to the Draft gutting its stars and NXT taking over the branding of the title.

NXT is already giving away Baslzer vs. Ripley for the title in two weeks after just a few weeks of build.
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Old 12-05-2019, 06:19 AM   #1056
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That shows clearly that AEW have impacted the booking of NXT; they rarely did anything like that on weekly “TV” before, it all built to the Takeover event. I don’t think the last few weeks have necessarily been good indicators for either brand tbf. Let’s see how NXT does now that the Survivor Series booking has completely wrapped up.
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Like, not to derail this into content that much, but you could potentially be looking at the next Takeover/When Worlds Collide/whatever the fuck they call it featuring:

* Adam Cole vs. Tommaso Ciampa for the NXT Title
* Shayna Baslzer vs. Rhea Ripley for the NXT Women's Title
* Finn Balor vs. Johnny Gargano
* Roderick Strong vs. Velveteen Dream for the NXT North American Title

All of that has been built up and held off, and all of it has some sort of appeal to that hardcore fan. I think the arguments that NXT are "hot shotting" and blowing their wad with stuff is a bit premature.
Gargano and Dream being out put a wrench in that card
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Old 12-05-2019, 05:17 PM   #1059
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Results for last night's AEW vs NXT episodes:

AEW got 851k viewers, #8 ranking, and a 0.32 in the key demo (18-49)

NXT got 845k, #12 ranking, and a 0.29 in the key demo. Besides the 50+ demo, NXT also won the 18-34 demo (0.2 vs. 0.19).

Seems AEW closing the gap in the 50+ was likely the key reason for the win in terms of viewership since it was 0.38 to 0.31 in favor of NXT while last week was 0.4 to 0.25 in favor of NXT. NXT closing the gaps in the other demos was the key reason why the viewership gap was very small.
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Also only the second time since the Wednesday Night War started that both AEW and NXT went up in viewership for the night compared to the week before.

The other time was on November 6th.
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That worlds collide shit is dumb. Just another excuse to break brand exclusivity.
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The Nielsen ratings are way too variable to consider that a clear win for AEW. Especially when you consider that there are no doubt people who watch NXT on the Network when it drops.
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Smackdown:


Hr 1 - 2.54
Hr 2 - 2.36

Avg - 2.45 million
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Dog food poured on Roman - 719k
Roman vs Dolph - 645k
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Here are numbers for the week, for those curious:

SD - 2.45 million
RAW - 2.21 million
AEW - 851 thousand
NXT - 845 thousand
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Take away the college football games as an excuse and Smackdown is still getting very close to losing their advantage in the key demo group for FOX.

Its already been struggling to stay ahead of the viewership minimum FOX wants for the show and lost the 1.0+ weekly average needed for FOX to break even in ad revenues due to the lower ad rates.

If there is one thing that can be proven without a doubt is AEW's arrival on TV hasn't led to WWE bothering to improve their main roster shows in terms of quality. They are way too content in just letting NXT handle that issue and blow through the brand's good will in order to beat AEW.
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:42 AM   #1067
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I watched the college football game as I bet on the game. Smackdown is still sitting on my DVR waiting to be watched lol

Overall I found it crazy that game was responsible for any impact on wrestling ratings since Utah has no national fanbase, Oregon might have a small one, but it was a boring game..
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RAW:


Hr 1 - 2.25
Hr 2 - 2.20
Hr 3 - 1.99

Avg - 2.15 million
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Rey/AJ - 1.5 million
Divorce Court - 1.5 million
Seth/AOP attack KO - 642k
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One of those Good/Bad type situations.

Good in the sense that the 3rd hour just barely missed the 2 million mark and the 1st to 3rd hour drop being a lot smaller compared to last week.

Bad in the sense that the 1st hour was a lot weaker than last week and the big reason for the overall number being lower.
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Last night's WWE Backstage episode with Punk's second appearance actually ended up being lower than last week's show. Also went down in the key demo rating.

127k viewers, #128 ranking, and a 0.6 in the key demo.

For some comparisons, last week's episode was 138k, #103 ranking, and 0.8 in the key demo.
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Results for last night's AEW and NXT episodes:

AEW got 778k viewers, #11 ranking, and a 0.28 in the key demo.

NXT got 778k viewers, #21 ranking, and a 0.24 in the key demo.

Seems them drawing was due to AEW's advantages in the younger demos got offset by NXT's huge advantage in the older demo.

Interesting enough AEW actually managed to beat NXT in the 25-54 demo (0.32 vs. 0.27) but NXT got carried by a huge 50+ demo that also washed away that advantage for AEW (0.38 vs. 0.29).
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SD:


Hr 1 - 2.42
Hr 2 - 2.26

Avg - 2.34 million
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Roman attacks Ziggler/Corbin - 2.4 million
Firefly Funhouse in Miz's house - 457k
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Here's the weekly ratings:


SD - 2.34 million
RAW - 2.15 million
AEW - 778k
NXT - 778k
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That disparity between the #1 and #2 most watched clips on Youtube is pretty crazy.

Also WWE would kill to get those numbers Hawaii Five-O keeps getting especially with older viewers.
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Are there any other fanbases that obsess on ratings as much as wrestling fans do? It seems like it might be unique to the internet wrestling community.
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Cable news fans?

Not sure if they still do it but FOX News and its fans used to constantly gloat about their prime-time shows beating MSNBC and CNN shows.
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I think it’s just people holding out hope that if the ratings eventually get bad enough, WWE will start trying and wrestling will become good again. It’s unique to wrestling because, while other scripted shows might run for a decade tops and once it dips in quality you might as well give up on it, wrestling has been down and recovered many times before. It’s just taking longer than before to recover quality-wise. So the more the ratings reflect the quality, the more hope things will change.
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Are there any other fanbases that obsess on ratings as much as wrestling fans do? It seems like it might be unique to the internet wrestling community.
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Cable News fans
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I do it too and find it more interesting than the actual product. I was trying to think of a second sentence for this post, something about Wheel of Fortune fans.
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I do it too and find it more interesting than the actual product. I was trying to think of a second sentence for this post, something about Wheel of Fortune fans.
Pat Sajak took ill for the Disney Week WoF tapings, so Vanna hosted for him the whole week - on 2 hours notice. That was pretty amazing.
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