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Old 08-29-2022, 05:46 PM   #11081
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In the article FTR are quoted as saying they spoke to Tony and legal and understood once they spoke to them (paraphrasing).

So either theres a copyright issue or they will be DLC, or both would be my guess.
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Old 08-29-2022, 06:13 PM   #11082
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Saw a full match of the game. Looks really cool. Very DoR
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Old 08-29-2022, 06:22 PM   #11083
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In the article FTR are quoted as saying they spoke to Tony and legal and understood once they spoke to them (paraphrasing).

So either theres a copyright issue or they will be DLC, or both would be my guess.
Could you imagine if it was just Kenny and the Bucks being spiteful lolol man that would be peak wrestling.
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Old 08-29-2022, 08:22 PM   #11084
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They should troll everyone who gets the game a few days early by only having Kenny and the Bucks on the roster. That's the whole game. Until the release day patch enables everyone else. Would be kinda funny.
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Old 08-29-2022, 08:35 PM   #11085
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In the article FTR are quoted as saying they spoke to Tony and legal and understood once they spoke to them (paraphrasing).

So either theres a copyright issue or they will be DLC, or both would be my guess.
Lol, spoke to legal. “Shut the fuck up about this or else.” Anyone who thinks talent is okay being cut out of a source of revenue like that is kidding themselves. We’re not talking about Peter Avalon not making the cut. Or whoever debuts next month. FTR are a glaring omission from the game. What are the chances they are the only ones?
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Old 08-29-2022, 08:36 PM   #11086
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They should troll everyone who gets the game a few days early by only having Kenny and the Bucks on the roster. That's the whole game. Until the release day patch enables everyone else. Would be kinda funny.
Or they can just release the game and everyone can laugh at that.
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Old 08-29-2022, 08:40 PM   #11087
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Which tag teams would take priority over FTR?
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Old 08-29-2022, 08:56 PM   #11088
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Lol, spoke to legal. “Shut the fuck up about this or else.”
I certainly hope they don’t get in trouble for giving you the inside scoop that they are NOT HAPPY about this before pretending it’s a non-issue.
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:47 PM   #11089
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Could you imagine if it was just Kenny and the Bucks being spiteful lolol man that would be peak wrestling.
Lol would be good internet fodder thats for sure.

This I wonder how many extra eyeballs this little saga has got on the game from the cranky internet trolls tripping balls about it. Nothing like free publicity.
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Old 08-30-2022, 01:20 AM   #11090
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The wheels seem to have fallen off once Punk got hurt. Think the company was having a great run up until then. Forbidden door delivered in ring but was rushed and mostly meaningless. And it’s felt like the company has been directionless since, despite every effort to course correct.

Tony also has the bad habit of waiting to announce ppv matches and they feel rushed instead of being built to.

Hopefully they get their shit together after all out. I don’t know why guys like Hangman, Wardlow, FTR (who should be tag champs), Hook and I’m sure a handful of others aren’t getting more shine. They’re Darby, Miro and House of Black in there too.
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Old 08-30-2022, 01:35 AM   #11091
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Lol would be good internet fodder thats for sure.

This I wonder how many extra eyeballs this little saga has got on the game from the cranky internet trolls tripping balls about it. Nothing like free publicity.
None.
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Old 08-30-2022, 04:45 AM   #11092
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The wheels seem to have fallen off once Punk got hurt. Think the company was having a great run up until then. Forbidden door delivered in ring but was rushed and mostly meaningless. And it’s felt like the company has been directionless since, despite every effort to course correct.

Tony also has the bad habit of waiting to announce ppv matches and they feel rushed instead of being built to.

Hopefully they get their shit together after all out. I don’t know why guys like Hangman, Wardlow, FTR (who should be tag champs), Hook and I’m sure a handful of others aren’t getting more shine. They’re Darby, Miro and House of Black in there too.
It really has felt chaotic since Punk went down. Like the booking on the fly sort of scenario is really killing the focus across the board if the headline act isnt in order.

Kind of makes sense if TK doesnt have a lot of booking help.
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Old 08-30-2022, 07:08 AM   #11093
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What I see happening, since the beginning of this year, is that the Cucamunga Cliq is gonna run off anyone they view as a threat to them and their vision of what the show should be (PWG with a budget). And Tony, being a grinning idiot, will go along with it.

Cody is gone. Punk (for better or worse) is likely in a competition with Thunder Rosa over who is next out the door. From there, probably FTR. Then, in due time, Andrade, Miro, and even Jericho (again, for better or worse).
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Old 08-30-2022, 08:02 AM   #11094
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THey were removed from the roster at release. FTR are the goods and they know it, so they will put them behind DLC for more $$$$.


Just like WWE2k19 when they put KO, Shinsuke, some women and The Fiend behind DLC, despite them being on the initial roster as well.


Nothing new, just three different letters doing the same thing as the others. Cultists tho, amirite
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Old 08-30-2022, 08:27 AM   #11095
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What I see happening, since the beginning of this year, is that the Cucamunga Cliq is gonna run off anyone they view as a threat to them and their vision of what the show should be (PWG with a budget). And Tony, being a grinning idiot, will go along with it.

Cody is gone. Punk (for better or worse) is likely in a competition with Thunder Rosa over who is next out the door. From there, probably FTR. Then, in due time, Andrade, Miro, and even Jericho (again, for better or worse).
Tony needs to distance himself from those fucking losers asap.
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What I see happening, since the beginning of this year, is that the Cucamunga Cliq is gonna run off anyone they view as a threat to them and their vision of what the show should be (PWG with a budget). And Tony, being a grinning idiot, will go along with it.

Cody is gone. Punk (for better or worse) is likely in a competition with Thunder Rosa over who is next out the door. From there, probably FTR. Then, in due time, Andrade, Miro, and even Jericho (again, for better or worse).
I definitely see that with FTR. I think part of their flippant approach with CM Punk back in 2019 was to ward him off. Omega and The Bucks clearly don’t like the more refined philosophy to compete with. Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me if Cody didn’t want another top dog to compete with at the time either.

A lot of the other guys seem like their “guys” and the kind of acts that they’d surround themselves with. But I’m probably being pretty naive with those types of egos. It isn’t a coincidence that a guy like Miro isn’t capitalized on.
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Old 08-30-2022, 06:22 PM   #11097
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With FTR winning everything BUT the AEW titles, Punk being brought back just to be put back on the shelf and Samoa Joe being brought in and then just kinda disappearing, it SEEMS like Tony is putting a lot into the idea that ROH is gonna get a good deal and be a viable second brand.

Which is a terrible idea even if he does have a plan set for ROH.
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Lol, does All Out have a main event yet? Maybe they are going to not have a World Title match and just do the six-man belts as the main? Or Jericho/Danielson or the Ladder Match? All would be weird choices.
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Old 08-31-2022, 09:04 AM   #11099
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Eddie Kingston vs. Tomohiro Ishii added to the All Out pre-show. Fuck that's gonna rule.
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lol Fuck Tony for putting Eddie on the pre-show. And fuck the Young Bucks in general.
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Feel like ishii has phoned it in every time hes been in AEW.
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Somehow Tiny has promised tonight will be the most eventful Dynamite EVER! How does he do it every single week, is there no ceiling?!?!? #LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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This is gonna be a historic week for AEW! Can't wait for MJF to be the surprise opponent for Mox!
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It's gonna be Triple H. He's gonna come in, challenge Mox for the title and the fate of the company. Match with lots of goofy shit. Triple takes the AEW World Title and company.
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Old 08-31-2022, 04:24 PM   #11105
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Unless they come back with something BIGLY YUGE, the ship has sailed on the MJF story.
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I think we find out if AEW is going to officially cross the event horizon into "lol tna" territory.

What am I looking forward to at the ppv at this point? Is there a single story that anyone gives a fuck about? Sure, you might have a couple of good matches but without much behind them its forgotten about as fast as Forbidden Door.
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I remember the time I watched and they DID announce their main event match well in advance of Kenny Omega vs Adam Page..... but then they did very little to actually build to that match while the internet "filled in the heat/story" for themselves and hyped themselves for it, even though the build on TV was lackluster and was more focused on the next challenger for the title and not the current one.
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What's Wardlow up to? Random 6 man tag with jobber stable.

What about Hook? Nowhere to be found.

Darby? Is he even booked?

Jade? No heat match vs Athena

Pac? Random indy defenses of the 33rd title on AEW TV.

FTR? Random 6 man tag.

Andrade? Miro? Black? Punk? MJF? Page? Cole?

I mean my God wtf is going on?
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Old 08-31-2022, 07:23 PM   #11109
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hook is feuding with one half of 2.0 lol
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Christ.....I'm going to start drinking and join Tik Toc. That's how I feel about this.
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Ok I do care about Starks and Hobbs but I just know thats going to get botched the way everything else is going.
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Starks versus Hobbs and Jungle Boy versus Christian are the best programs going in because they have actual stories behind them they haven’t been drawn out for months on end and they’re helping in getting 3 young guys TV time and getting them over.

The ppv will likely deliver. But the build outside of those two matches has been the shits. The Bucks should’ve held on to the titles and he heading into their rubber match for those titles against FTR.

I’d rather see Swerve and Lee in a singles program against each other since that’s where they liked to be going until a random title win that’s done nothing for them.

Miro v Malakai was tailor made to happen after forbidden door.

It should be Toni Storm v Britt for the title. Hayder doesn’t need to be in the match. She should cost Britt the match on accident and then demolish her to turn face at the end. But that’s another long term story finishing to start a new one with Toni finally winning a big match and beating their top women to do it. She moves on and we’re finally get Hayter v Britt at the next ppv.

Wardlow has no story. The easy path was to build up Ethan Page after his buddy Scorpio was squashed, and keep him involved with Wardlow demanding a title shot and getting it at the ppv. Instead Wardlow has been directionless.

There’s 5 matches with history and easy builds that were passed on but make way more sense.

I can see Punk getting the title back Sunday, and then turning heel the following week. It’s dumb, since there’s no real reason for him to be a heel right now unless they’re bringing MJF back to oppose him, which would generate a massive pop since they’re running the New York are soon and MJF will be cheered as a babyface if or when he’s back.

The casino ladder match has a bunch of mid card guys in there, which I hate because even if they’re just going to be fed to Punk or Moxley, I want to at least believe they’d have a chance. We’ll see who the joker is.

But yeah, this is the most dire run of the company so far. Fly by night booking work very little long term direction.
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I’d have Starks win by roll up counter to the spine buster. Have Hobbs immediately attack him after the match and spine buster him through a table or on the steps or a chair. Sell the neck injury. Build up a to a street fight at Grand Slam. Easy. We won’t get this probably but it’s one of the easiest stories Tony has that he can book simply and still get a lot out of it.
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Feel like ishii has phoned it in every time hes been in AEW.
New Japan knows how to present their guys to cover up weaknesses. They go somewhere else and the “best in the world” look meh.

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Unless they come back with something BIGLY YUGE, the ship has sailed on the MJF story.
I don’t get this “drama.” As soon as he shows up it’s just “oh, he’s back.” What is being achieved by keeping him off TV? That’s why I’m pretty sure this isn’t a work. MJF is either sorting out some personal shit or he’s being iced while they argue about his contract. If this is a work, it’s all-time bad.

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I remember the time I watched and they DID announce their main event match well in advance of Kenny Omega vs Adam Page..... but then they did very little to actually build to that match while the internet "filled in the heat/story" for themselves and hyped themselves for it, even though the build on TV was lackluster and was more focused on the next challenger for the title and not the current one.
They lean on this a lot.

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Ok I do care about Starks and Hobbs but I just know thats going to get botched the way everything else is going.
Starks should be breaking out. He recently spoke out against the drama being distracting bullshit. Steve Austin cutting through HBK and Bret vibes. This company won’t know how to run with him. Too many toes being stepped on.
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There are sputterings that Bobby Fish’s contract is not getting renewed.
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There are sputterings that Bobby Fish’s contract is not getting renewed.
That would make total sense to break up Undisputed Elite by beating down the Bucks so Kenny can come back and not renew Fish before they can have a single match, Tony is such a good booker!!!
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Now reading reports Fish is already a free agent, that his contract expired yesterday.

Is it weird to anybody else Tony signed Fish to a 10-11 month contract but gave Kyle O'Reilly a 5 year deal?
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The difference between the 2 contracts is strange but Fish was always the bottom of the rung guy in Undisputed Era. Not sure where he even goes.
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Now reading reports Fish is already a free agent, that his contract expired yesterday.

Is it weird to anybody else Tony signed Fish to a 10-11 month contract but gave Kyle O'Reilly a 5 year deal?
That does sound weird. Lio Rush had a similar thing before he was “released.” I wonder if there are cycles TK can use as outs or if talent have a certain number of dates?
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Fish can find work in Impact Wrestling, New Japan or in NXT as a player/coach. Team him with Bobby Roode and Bobby Lashley as the Ripped Roberts (Daddies). RRD.
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