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Old 05-17-2019, 01:23 AM   #1081
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Old 05-17-2019, 10:43 AM   #1082
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I could be wrong, but I think he is part of the broadcast team the way Mean Gene was, in that broadcast team is all talking positions, not just guys at the broadcast table.

He will probably be a backstage interviewer.
Well yeah. Didn’t think he’d be at the announce table. It’s just interesting because he’s been adamant about the fact that he doesn’t actually work for AEW, he just kinda piggybacks off of them for Starrcast. I wonder if he’d be listed as a broadcaster if Vince hadn’t already pulled Taker and Angle from Starrcast due to the perceived AEW link.
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Old 05-17-2019, 07:18 PM   #1083
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Old 05-17-2019, 07:20 PM   #1084
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:21 PM   #1085
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:47 PM   #1086
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That is well within the scope of what I'm willing to pay to support a new product. I am keen.
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:51 PM   #1087
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The card isn't something that, alone, gets me super-hyped. But breaking it down, it looks really, really good:

* Not really excited at all about Sammy Guevara vs. Kip Sabian, but those non-existence expectations might allow it to impress me.

* I'm not a big fan of multi-person matches, but the women's three-way is going to be interesting because I've never seen any of them before, plus I'm sure they are all going to be busting ass to impress.

* SoCal Uncensored vs. Strong Hearts is probably going to be a lot of fun. Daniels is a guy I've got a lot of time for.

* The women's tag could be really interesting.

* PAC was one of my five favorite workers when he was in WWE. I think he'll bring the thunder. Hangman Page is getting better all the time.

* Cody vs. Dustin has got a great story behind it.

* Not a biggest fan of The Young Bucks, but I'm sure their tag will be a spectacle.

* Jericho vs. Omega should be pretty great.

It's not only probably going to be very good, but it looks like it might actually have the chance to build. I miss cards with a variety of different matches.
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:53 PM   #1088
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I don't know why I've got this feeling, but I'm thinking Nic Nemeth shows up and wins the Casino Battle Royale on the pre-show. He seems like a pretty good choice to be a stop-gap challenger for whoever the first AEW World Champion is. He'd be a big enough name to get some people's attention, but being on the pre-show won't be disappointing even if you figure in "Dolph Ziggler fatigue."
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Old 05-18-2019, 12:20 AM   #1089
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Old 05-18-2019, 03:19 AM   #1090
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I don't know why I've got this feeling, but I'm thinking Nic Nemeth shows up and wins the Casino Battle Royale on the pre-show. He seems like a pretty good choice to be a stop-gap challenger for whoever the first AEW World Champion is. He'd be a big enough name to get some people's attention, but being on the pre-show won't be disappointing even if you figure in "Dolph Ziggler fatigue."
Wait... Is Dolph out of WWE???
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Old 05-18-2019, 07:08 AM   #1091
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Old 05-18-2019, 07:53 PM   #1092
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PAC/Hangman has been cancelled due to “creative differences”

PAC is refusing to lose singles matches while he’s still the Dragongate Champion
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Old 05-18-2019, 08:11 PM   #1093
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Fucks sake.
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Old 05-18-2019, 08:40 PM   #1094
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an he just beat the crap out of hangman page at a houseshow wonder if they are doing a work.
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Old 05-18-2019, 09:02 PM   #1095
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I don't blame him he shouldn't be losing to Hangman. Hangman isn't anywhere near in PAC's league.
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PAC/Hangman has been cancelled due to “creative differences”

PAC is refusing to lose singles matches while he’s still the Dragongate Champion
If true, doing a job for Enzo but not Adam Page??? Not a good look Neville, not a good look at all.
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Old 05-18-2019, 09:48 PM   #1097
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Meltzer going way overboard in defending AEW for what was a clear lack of planning.

Dude’s clearly in their pockets.
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Meltzer going way overboard in defending AEW for this.

Dude’s clearly in their pockets.
Since day one, and I wouldn't mind it if he was just overjoyed for them, but he is so biased in both aspects, AEW can do no wrong, and WWE, New Japan, ROH, they are not just bad, but he gets so happy they are bad he pops a boner every time he gets a chance to report they are bad.

I guarantee Meltzer creamed his pants when he got to report about how the Bucks said ROH and New Japan messed up by not taking care of them with better offers. Meltzer would say it's cause AEW is great and those companies are going out of business because they don't know anything about wrestling.

It's a joke calling him a journalist, he is a fan boy hype man.
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Old 05-18-2019, 09:57 PM   #1099
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PAC went to time limit draws with Ospreay and ZSJ for much the same reason. He doesn’t want to lessen the moment when he loses the Dragongate title, and NJPW didn’t want their talents losing.

The problem is AEW (understandably) don’t want to do so a bullshit finish on their first ever show. But they don’t want Hangman losing when he’s likely on the shortlist of guys being considered to be the inaugural champion.

So the match never should’ve been done until PAC was free and clear of the Dragongate title.
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now hangman can have a surprise guy to compete with. wonder who it will be.
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My money’s on Moxley
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Old 05-18-2019, 10:46 PM   #1102
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Thinking about it though, Moxley’s gonna be a similar problem.

I love Hangman, but don’t think I could justify Moxley doing the job in his very first match.
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PAC should have beaten Page anyway. This is a pretty bone-headed situation to get yourself into. I hope they work it out, because I was looking forward to that match.
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So is this gonna be our very first #lolAEW?
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And for the record, I don't blame PAC. This is something they should've detailed and figured out before booking.
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Yeah, unless PAC agreed to job and then backed out, this is all on AEW. Don’t book a match if you don’t have a finish.
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Old 05-18-2019, 11:58 PM   #1107
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PAC/Hangman has been cancelled due to “creative differences”

PAC is refusing to lose singles matches while he’s still the Dragongate Champion
They should have held some talks with Dragongate beforehand to find a way out of that situation. Its not like PAC had just won the belt and needed to legitimatize his status as champ.

PAC pulling a "creative control" this early probably also going to hurt the chances AEW will be as open in the future to working with talent who are champs elsewhere since last thing they need is a repeat situation happening.
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So is this gonna be our very first #lolAEW?
It's kind of appearing that way to me, sadly.

I'd seriously just run the match and put PAC over. Emphasizing wins and losses is a good thing, but you can't be so fucking rigid that you book yourself into these corners paranoid to have any of your guys take losses ever. Page can cut a promo saying he let his "bosses" down and he's going to get back on the horse and en route to the championship, and the next time he gets PAC in the ring things are going to be different.

That they're cancelling this because they don't want Adam Page losing? It's really sending up some signals to me that I don't want to be seeing this early.
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Haven't seen enough so I'm legit asking is Page big enough that losing kinda dulls his shine? Does a loss hurt him that bad? I understand if he's going to be their future centerpiece but does a clean loss to a guy like PAC hurt him to the point they have to cancel?
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Old 05-19-2019, 12:29 AM   #1110
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I like Page, and I think he's got a ton of potential, but I think he's a "in 3-5 years" sort of guy. He's getting better all the time and growing into himself, but I don't think he's the sort of guy you start building around right now. Omega is the obvious ace, and to be honest, Cody is probably more important to them right now. As far as singles babyfaces go, he's #3, tops. And that doesn't factor in their emphasis on tag teams and women. And even a guy like CIMA is probably more important right now.

I can understand why they wouldn't want him losing all the time, and this is his first match out the gate with the promotion, but I don't think him losing to PAC would be that big a deal.
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I can get it on FITE for $20.
It's not even listed yet.
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Gotta say.... PAC is a dumb freakin' name..... but, they should just book him to win, as he should probably be one of their top guys out of the gate anyways.
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It's not even listed yet.
It is in Australia, you dumb dick.
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Glad I didn't already buy though. Re-considering it, because PAC was a big attraction for me watching.
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Yeah I’ve seen more than a few people say they’re out now due to this match getting cancelled.

Between that and the price in the US, this looks like it is turning to a shitshow.
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"creative differences" will be a recurring theme of AEW
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Thinking about it though, Moxley’s gonna be a similar problem.

I love Hangman, but don’t think I could justify Moxley doing the job in his very first match.
With all due respect to Pac, compared to Moxley in terms of star power, there is no comparison whatsoever.

It's part of the reason I have a hard time believing he will go to AEW, because why would he go just to put over the AEW core? It's not for the money, and unless he is gonna be the top guy, he is gonna be just as unhappy with his booking there, and there he won't have his wife.

As far as Pac, after thinking about it more, I don't blame him at all. If AEW is supposed to be all about wins mattering, why would anybody want to do jobs? I mean Goldust will for his brother, but other than that you are gonna get a bunch of Rybacks who won't job unless they are getting just as much money as the winners so as not to devalue their worth by taking losses.

Pac is a bigger star than Page, so why should he take a loss?

This is what happens when you give talent the option of calling their own shot, you get guys who will take advantage of that for their own benefit.
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I don't think this is that big of a deal tbh

It's unfortunate PAC backed out - but until the show airs and I see a product I am not going to judge AEW in a negative light. And even then, if the first show, or couple shows have some tough bits I am going to chalk it up to growing pains.


I do agree w/ the pricing being too high but I am sure I will spend the $ regardless.
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That sucks about Pac, I was looking forward to seeing him in the big time
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Rumor going around the net hints that it wasn't just "creative issues" for PAC's removal from Double or Nothing and more changes might be on the way for the event's card.

Supposedly AEW got hit with similar visa-related issues that plagued NJPW's recent US shows and all due to how strict the US government has become under President Trump for allowing foreign wrestlers to work in the country.

Also seems AEW's partnership with China's OWE is once again not as strong as previously assumed since OWE recently partnered with Canadian based SMASH and might be considering plans for their talent to work in Canada instead of the US.
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