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Old 09-19-2022, 10:49 PM   #11401
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It seems weird Omega would get into trouble when The Bucks wouldn’t. Matt Jackson seemed to be the lead instigator in the locker-room. They’re known worms. Omega does have a bite mark on the underside of his left arm, like he went to grab someone around the neck from behind, but The Bucks would have to get in shit for this for acting inappropriately as EVPs, surely?

Omega’s trouble seems to be from something else and or maybe being the behind-the-scenes aggravator.

I’d like to know more about the whole story with the video game. There are loose reports that Omega was terrible to work for and the game is severely over-budget. The head of the Yukes Nordic development team left to jump to 2k, which seems…odd. It seems weird a guy’s contract would come up during a development cycle, let alone them feeling the need to take a lower position with a rival company. There’s more to that story and how Fight Forever has been handled.
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Old 09-19-2022, 10:50 PM   #11402
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It reminds me of Homer Simpson being in charge of designing a car for Herb lol.
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Old 09-19-2022, 11:01 PM   #11403
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Holy Shit this is so bad

I can't believe they tweeted it out
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Old 09-19-2022, 11:09 PM   #11404
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Bless her. I think she really wants to be in wrestling. But wow. Vickie Guerrero should not be trying to save your segments.
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I actually lol’d after “You don’t know me!” though.
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Old 09-20-2022, 07:40 AM   #11406
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It seems weird Omega would get into trouble when The Bucks wouldn’t. Matt Jackson seemed to be the lead instigator in the locker-room. They’re known worms. Omega does have a bite mark on the underside of his left arm, like he went to grab someone around the neck from behind, but The Bucks would have to get in shit for this for acting inappropriately as EVPs, surely?

Omega’s trouble seems to be from something else and or maybe being the behind-the-scenes aggravator.

I’d like to know more about the whole story with the video game. There are loose reports that Omega was terrible to work for and the game is severely over-budget. The head of the Yukes Nordic development team left to jump to 2k, which seems…odd. It seems weird a guy’s contract would come up during a development cycle, let alone them feeling the need to take a lower position with a rival company. There’s more to that story and how Fight Forever has been handled.
oh yeah, I don't know if the fight stuff will be a huge problem for Kenny. Just sounds like there's other stuff he's done that's working against him. Could be about the video game and it could be some question behaviour backstage.
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Old 09-20-2022, 09:58 AM   #11407
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MJF was on the MMAhour with Ariel Helwani. I made sure to tune in, I usually watch most episodes anyway because the MMA world is 10x more exciting than Pro Wrestling these days, at least in the actual watching of it at least, plus gambling.

Anyway, MJF came in and here are my thoughts.

You don't really need to see this interview, MJF is mostly in character and nothing is really said that you need to hear. MJF basically said that he came to a financial deal with Tony and is getting paid a lot more money and a better spot on the card but no time added to his deal. He said he got the deal he wanted and he will be the champion when his contract is up and spark the biggest bidding war ever in wrestling.

He said he'd be interested in any wrestling company that would pay him the most money except for NJPW (lol).

He said he thinks that WWE is "really good" right now but wouldn't say it's "much better" than it was with Vince in charge. But he watches as much of it as possible and enjoys it. He also only watches wrestling, he watches everything current and old. He's obsessed with wrestling.

He showed love for Bruce Prichard and his MLW tenure, and that promotion as a feeder league where he cut his teeth.

He didn't comment on the Punk/Elite drama in detail.

He was happy for Cody to do what was right for him in leaving AEW and that it opened up a big spot on the roster which is a good thing. And that if The Elite or Punk leave AEW their spots are ready to be taken by a multitude of viable talent.

He sold AEW hard as "doing very well despite the rumors", sold that he was the reason for the ratings going up after a summer of down numbers with his absence. Lot's of big company man talk, numbers and a bunch of typical bullshit you'd hear from a company man. That stuff surprised me but I guess he needed to walk back some of the company shit talk and try to get the "cool kids" back on board with AEW.

Said most underrated talent is Ethan Page and Stokely Hathway. Said most overrated is my favorite Jon Moxley, that his bravado is bullshit but he's a good wrestler.

He said he and Tony are getting along much better now that he's being paid his worth.

Put over a lot of talent like Darby, Brody King, Ethan Page and cited Terry Funk as an idol of his.
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Old 09-20-2022, 11:28 AM   #11408
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wow that Marina Shafir promo was horrendous
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Old 09-20-2022, 11:29 AM   #11409
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like even AEW Twitter, notorious marks for everything the company puts on, didn't like it
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Old 09-20-2022, 11:39 AM   #11410
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MJF was on the MMAhour with Ariel Helwani. I made sure to tune in, I usually watch most episodes anyway because the MMA world is 10x more exciting than Pro Wrestling these days, at least in the actual watching of it at least, plus gambling.

Anyway, MJF came in and here are my thoughts.

You don't really need to see this interview, MJF is mostly in character and nothing is really said that you need to hear. MJF basically said that he came to a financial deal with Tony and is getting paid a lot more money and a better spot on the card but no time added to his deal. He said he got the deal he wanted and he will be the champion when his contract is up and spark the biggest bidding war ever in wrestling.

He said he'd be interested in any wrestling company that would pay him the most money except for NJPW (lol).

He said he thinks that WWE is "really good" right now but wouldn't say it's "much better" than it was with Vince in charge. But he watches as much of it as possible and enjoys it. He also only watches wrestling, he watches everything current and old. He's obsessed with wrestling.

He showed love for Bruce Prichard and his MLW tenure, and that promotion as a feeder league where he cut his teeth.

He didn't comment on the Punk/Elite drama in detail.

He was happy for Cody to do what was right for him in leaving AEW and that it opened up a big spot on the roster which is a good thing. And that if The Elite or Punk leave AEW their spots are ready to be taken by a multitude of viable talent.

He sold AEW hard as "doing very well despite the rumors", sold that he was the reason for the ratings going up after a summer of down numbers with his absence. Lot's of big company man talk, numbers and a bunch of typical bullshit you'd hear from a company man. That stuff surprised me but I guess he needed to walk back some of the company shit talk and try to get the "cool kids" back on board with AEW.

Said most underrated talent is Ethan Page and Stokely Hathway. Said most overrated is my favorite Jon Moxley, that his bravado is bullshit but he's a good wrestler.

He said he and Tony are getting along much better now that he's being paid his worth.

Put over a lot of talent like Darby, Brody King, Ethan Page and cited Terry Funk as an idol of his.
Without listening, that sounds like a good interview. That’s how you stay in character but also divulge things while putting everything over. Including WWE, lol.

What a gem. You know, he might have more to do with ratings going up than zero. The man is just great pro-wrestling. I just hope TK isn’t being too on-the-nose with this MJF/Mox stuff and we do get Danielson as champion.
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Old 09-20-2022, 11:41 AM   #11411
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wow that Marina Shafir promo was horrendous
I don’t want to be mean to her, because she is clearly trying, but it’s just not for her. This role, maybe wrestling. NXT cut her for a reason. Maybe she can hover about, be a referee, do crossover stuff with Ronda and/or Shayna. I just don’t see this…getting good. And the whole gimmick is just wrestling recruit and no one has gotten in there to tell her to not try and be a million things that aren’t her.
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Old 09-20-2022, 11:47 AM   #11412
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She might even be worse that Aliyah.
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Old 09-20-2022, 11:48 AM   #11413
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Shafir was a completely pointless addition. Terrible wrestler, terrible promo.
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Old 09-20-2022, 11:52 AM   #11414
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oh yeah, I don't know if the fight stuff will be a huge problem for Kenny. Just sounds like there's other stuff he's done that's working against him. Could be about the video game and it could be some question behaviour backstage.
Oh yeah, it just seems weird that the hints are Omega is getting it worse.

Regardless of who gets hammered hardest, you’d think that someone in their position would be given the option to leave. It could be perceived as really embarrassing for a former executive to walk into a locker-room as “mere talent” and held to a contract on that.

If Omega is done — whether they fire him or just pull his January deal and make it as quiet and “mutual” as possible, I could see that being the cue for The Bucks to exit too. This is all probably playing into the politics of this thing.

Same thing on the Punk side. I’m more sympathetic to it, but even if you aren’t — losing Punk isn’t just about losing a 40-something dude who isn’t guaranteed to be healthy. You’re going to get offside with a lot of his political allies, some of whom are young guys with lots of potential to draw actual money from you. I’m obviously reading into things a lot, but Powerhouse Hobbs has been pretty open about Punk helping him out. Assuming he and Starks close (Starks a former Cody guy) then it could extend to that. Obviously there’s FTR. They seem to get along with Brian Pillman, Jr., Griff Garrison and Brock Anderson. Then there’s Wardlow and even Danhausen.

You suddenly start to have a roster of guys that looks pretty impressive on its own who might want to get out of a company that is chained to The Elite. And the same thing goes back the other way, to a different degree with different guys.
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Old 09-20-2022, 11:54 AM   #11415
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I’ll say this again: If you’ve got obvious built-in assets and the WWE cuts you from developmental, then it might just be because you didn’t show the right stuff. AEW has been pretty peachy keen to pick up people from NXT that common sense should have indicated probably needed A LOT of work and may not have shown any signs of getting there.
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Old 09-20-2022, 12:04 PM   #11416
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Dave is hinting that AEW might be abandoning their rankings moving forward. Apparently their website hasn’t been updated since August.

It’s kind of a “no shit” scenario for me. Rankings and the displayed record was always going to create unnecessary corners for the booking to deal with. The great thing about wrestling is that you get to do a bit of creative accounting with people. You can heat someone with a terrible record up and you can bring forward stats you want to be known, leaving things you don’t care about behind you.

You were always going to get mid-carders with insane records and main eventers who are 50/50. You were also going to get ridiculous career statistics. It was a bad idea idea in conception and no one is going to convince me it was just their execution, lol. Look, you can have that the execution was terrible, but it was just a bad idea, ok?
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Now you’re also haunted by the ghost of that shit. Yeah, a company is always going to make some sort of mistakes and there are things that are going to come down to growing pains, but “remember the rankings?” is something that they arguably don’t deserve to just shrug. It was 3 years of banging their heads against a wall with something that was never going to work, only for them to eventually admit it was a failure.

And look, better late than never. But late isn’t early.
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Old 09-20-2022, 12:22 PM   #11418
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It’s also potentially alienating for fans who see someone a couple of times and their record just keeps jumping. In wrestling, in order to get people out in front of the live crowds, they’ll be facing way more tin-cans than a professional fighter would. But a record like 20-1 when you’ve been in the company for mere months and the viewer realizes they only cared about maybe 3 of those matches isn’t a good thing.

Demanding completionism from fans is a risk too. It’s a big ask for a large subset of people who might only be interested in Dynamite and maybe Rampage, with these records really blowing open the “lore.”

It’d be like if you’re watching Star Wars and suddenly the screen froze and you had to read all these background lore on Luke Skywalker’s lightsaber. It’s cool that it’s there for nerds for that shit, but it is not important to the laser sword fight.
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What a gem. You know, he might have more to do with ratings going up than zero. The man is just great pro-wrestling. I just hope TK isn’t being too on-the-nose with this MJF/Mox stuff and we do get Danielson as champion.
By this I mean I hope they don’t force an MJF/Mox main event for Full Gear just because that’s what’s been teased right now. Danielson/MJF would be fine. Even leave Mox off the card/have him waiting in the bays. I guess you could also do Ethan Page vs. Mox lower on the card too. I’d entertain the idea of a Danielson/Mox/MJF three-way too, but maybe not right now.

MJF can talk shit about Moxley while feuding with Danielson over the belt. If they want to get cute, Mox could even get between Danielson and victory over MJF.
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It’s weird that Vickie Guerrero is still around.
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Maria Shafir sucks and I’m baffled as to why she’s employed
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Because she used to work for WWE. Pretty much all that is needed to get a contract from Tiny
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Because she used to work for WWE. Pretty much all that is needed to get a contract from Tiny
That’s it. They thought they were really nabbing one from WWE.
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If Marina Shafir HAD to stay in AEW the only way forward with her should be to turn her and Nyla Rose into an Al Snow and Steve Blackman-esquire tag team with Nyla being a huge dork and Shafir playing everything straight.

Nyla’s an adorable cheeseball on Twitter and letting her show some of that personality off vs being a generic monster would be better for her. Shafir on the other hand needs to never open her mouth again.
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Nyla Rose is going to be in the video game and FTR aren’t.
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Nyla Rose was one of the first AEW stars man! FTR is gonna be a HUGE post release PAYABLE download. You'll have to pay more to play more my man.
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Let’s see how many people do that.
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Old 09-22-2022, 11:26 AM   #11431
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If it does indeed harken back to the feel of no mercy, I think a lot of people will.

Since people havent been able to shut up about it for 2 decades.
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If it does indeed harken back to the feel of no mercy, I think a lot of people will.

Since people havent been able to shut up about it for 2 decades.
So much went into No Mercy. It was a different time. Technological limitations were different. Wrestling has more people invested in it. Friends were interested in playing it.

An emulation of that is going to miss out on those contextual things that made it great. Least of all picking up the game and having 30% of the roster available to you.
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Old 09-22-2022, 01:34 PM   #11434
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I mean not having FTR in the game reflects 100% how they've been treated in AEW thus far.
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I mean not having FTR in the game reflects 100% how they've been treated in AEW thus far.
That is true.

Looks like they might be outdated on CM Punk too. Wade Keller is reporting that it looks like he is getting his contract bought out by AEW. I don’t personally believe this yet, but I’m sure there are stories going about for reasons.
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Keller seems to reason that Punk not being mentioned on the air by Ian Riccaboni is a sign that he’s on his way out. That could just be because he’s still suspended. But a contract buyout is a specific outcome to mention out of the blue. I’d guess he’s heard something and is looking for signs for it on the air.
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Will be so shit to have Young Bucks on TV and not Punk. Oh well. At least they one of them got the shit beaten out of him.

My favorite part of Meltzer's reporting is him making sure it was 100% known that Punk through a sucker punch because heaven forbid the Bucks lose a shoot fight cleanly on Uncle Dave's watch.
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Will be so shit to have Young Bucks on TV and not Punk. Oh well. At least they one of them got the shit beaten out of him.

My favorite part of Meltzer's reporting is him making sure it was 100% known that Punk through a sucker punch because heaven forbid the Bucks lose a shoot fight cleanly on Uncle Dave's watch.
I missed that one lol. You’d think you’d hold back details like that when it comes to one side of the story and you know which side you’re getting. I think I most like the turnaround on Punk as an overall influence in order to make the negative stories about him fit.

If Punk leaving is true, it’s possible that The Bucks still won’t get off, especially if there are potential legal ramifications to keeping them on.
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My favorite part of Meltzer's reporting is him making sure it was 100% known that Punk through a sucker punch because heaven forbid the Bucks lose a shoot fight cleanly on Uncle Dave's watch.
Even with a sucker punch, nobody is losing a fight to Phil
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Even with a sucker punch, nobody is losing a fight to Phil
I mean I know you have a hard-on for him, but we're talking the Jackson brothers lol Tito and Jermaine have a better chance in a shoot fight than Matt and Nick.
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