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Old 11-08-2022, 08:53 AM   #12321
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Can we please have more contoured meat flaps for our boy Jordan AEW?




Someone DM Nyla Rose for him.
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Old 11-08-2022, 09:04 AM   #12322
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BTW very upset we never got the pay off big match with Chavo vs Nyla Rose. Bullshit.
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Old 11-08-2022, 10:02 AM   #12323
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Ethan Page vs Kingston could be good and could elevate Ethan Page but I have a feeling that this journey for Page isn't going to go the way Tony wants it to.

Ethan is getting a rub because he's MJF's buddy in real life. Page and MJF are actually almost the same person/character. There is very little that is different between them as performers, except that MJF is probably just a bit better, maybe not in the ring but as a character 100%.

I think MJF probably made sure that Ethan got a rub and a push as apart of his negotiations with Tony. It does seem that they are turning MJF face, and elevating Ethan to a top heel position. I just wonder if Ethan would be able to be WORSE a heel than MJF. It could be an interesting story if they can really get Ethan to a level where fans see him as an event bigger piece of shit than MJF ever was as a heel.
Yeah the tournament bracket is incredibly easy to figure out as constructed.

I worry that large segments of the AEW crowd aren't mentally prepared for the reality of Page beating Eddie. Everyone is hung up on the idea of Eddie finally winning the big one and, truth is, if he ever actually does win it I'd assume he's dropping it back instantly. The whole thing with him is the chase will probably always be his story. So that makes him an easy foil for a heel in a tourney like this.

Page will then go over Bandido, still an unknown commodity to some of the AEW fanbase. Not much to say there, would probably be a solid showing for both. Could even have a sub-plot where Bandido says if he wins the tourney, he'd use it on the ROH Title instead. But we know he won't win.

And then Page goes over one more popular face in Starks, another guy fans are ready to see go to the "next level". Starks, at least, will have some protection in defeat because a big part of his journey would be that he had to go through 2 wars against big dudes Archer and Cage to get there, making him slightly easier pickings for Page.

I think much of the fans online believe Page has been underutilized and deserves a push. And so maybe the thinking is the best way to ensure he actually gets heel heat is to put him over 2 incredibly popular guys in Eddie and Starks. It'll get him heat sure, but will the heat be for Page or will it be for the office?
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Guys, the game is a write-off. Accept it.
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Old 11-08-2022, 02:42 PM   #12325
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Kingston’s chance to run the big one came and went with the interim stuff. Ethan Page should absolutely go over him as he’s been due for some much needed spotlight and a push.
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The Full Gear card looks fucking awful, even for an AEW card. Toni Storm isn’t very good, but I guess you could say her defending her fake championship against Jamie Hayter is at least something fresh. I wonder if MJF gets blamed for the buyrate?

He’s got one foot out the door already, having been casted in the Von Erich movie.
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Old 11-08-2022, 05:24 PM   #12327
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Guys, the game is a write-off. Accept it.



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Old 11-08-2022, 05:25 PM   #12328
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Guys, the game is a write-off. Accept it.
I don't think anyone cares. People are just pumped for what could be a good new wrestling game.
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Old 11-08-2022, 05:26 PM   #12329
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objectively you guys are INCORRECT try again
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Old 11-08-2022, 05:28 PM   #12330
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Again, it is not the fact that the game is on gamepass exactly, it is that for over a year they were overhyping how many copies they would sell, and turn a huge profit.

Then suddenly, we are supposed to believe AEW decided this was better? Microsoft paid $5 million to get a Marvel game on gamepass earlier this year. Are we to believe AEW demands a higher pricetag than a Marvel franchise?

What world are we living in
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Old 11-08-2022, 05:33 PM   #12331
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Marvels Avenger was a failed game Square couldnt even give away. They had to sell all their US studios in an effort to recover their losses. Guardians also was a commercial failure for Square. These wouldnt be very pricey to get on gamepass a year + after launch in Avengers case and 6 month in Guardians case.
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Clearly you're out of your depth on this one. This is becoming an industry norm as Microsoft tries to build its "netflix for gaming." Its great deal for developers at microsofts expense. Take the L on this one. Its a good deal.
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Clearly you're out of your depth on this one. This is becoming an industry norm as Microsoft tries to build its "netflix for gaming." Its great deal for developers at microsofts expense. Take the L on this one. Its a good deal.
But that wasnt the business plan Omega and Tiny laid out. If this is the most profitable path, why was this never brought up as the goal?
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But that wasnt the business plan Omega and Tiny laid out. If this is the most profitable path, why was this never brought up as the goal?
Why would it be?
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You think they shouldve marketed a deal that hadnt been inked and couldnt have known would be on the table?
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You think they shouldve marketed a deal that hadnt been inked and couldnt have known would be on the table?
We are not talking about marketing, we are talking about nothing ever being truthful from them. If the intention is to sell as many copies as possible, then why woukd they eliminate the biggest set of gamers, the one's that already subscriber to game pass, and would save $60.00.

How big is the potential customer base for this game, and a better question would be what percentage of those potential customers are subscribers to game pass?

That to me says they don't have confidence they will make their investment back, that there is not as much demand as they sold Shad on, and are just trying to recoup whatever they can.
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Old 11-08-2022, 07:52 PM   #12338
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More people will be play this game since its on game pass. It will make more money since its on game pass.
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Microsoft is trying to walmart the gaming the industry. Theyre paying over market prices to shrink competition market shares. Its an aggressive strategy that they can afford and in 15 years will probably win out. I get you want to dunk on aew. You dont know enough about this topic to talk about it. Just let this one be.
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And as far a non game pass users: its not game pass exclusive. You can still buy this outside of gamepass. You can still get it on non Microsoft platforms
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And it should be noted this is an if. If purely rumor this is going to gamepass. But if it does its good for them not bad
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MJF has joined the cast of the Von Erich biopic in an undisclosed role


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We are not talking about marketing, we are talking about nothing ever being truthful from them. If the intention is to sell as many copies as possible, then why woukd they eliminate the biggest set of gamers, the one's that already subscriber to game pass, and would save $60.00.

How big is the potential customer base for this game, and a better question would be what percentage of those potential customers are subscribers to game pass?

That to me says they don't have confidence they will make their investment back, that there is not as much demand as they sold Shad on, and are just trying to recoup whatever they can.

Because none of that matters? It's entirely possible they wanted to get it onto gamepass from the start. But no developer ever publically announces "By the way everyone, we'd really like for this to be on gamepass".

You never talk about things during development that aren't 100% set in stone. If you don't believe me, ask Sean Murray how that worked out for him.
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GamePass is obviously a marketing strategy from Microsoft, but you’ve got to get a good chunk of money back, or recoup it somehow. You might get away with taking an L if it builds awareness for you.

This wasn’t going to do that. The game has been in production for over 3 years, has seen a change of head developer and basically had the team come out and apologize before it even hits market. I don’t know if I believe the $80 million number, but I do believe the story that it is severely over budget with no realistic way to make money back.

It isn’t going to GamePass anyway. It’s going to bomb in stores.
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Old 11-09-2022, 09:14 AM   #12347
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It's a niche game in a niche genre, so unless it did well while having a super low budget, it was always going to lose money.

It was more of a passion project from the start. With the heavy inspiration from the n64 era games, I would think it's also intended to get more people interested in AEW as well.
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Are you all going to admit it when it sucks? Omega has designed The Homer.
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Old 11-09-2022, 03:35 PM   #12349
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I know people are nostalgic for WWF No Mercy. When it came out, it was cutting edge. It pushed the N64 as far as it could go with wrestling games. It had an impressively comprehensive roster and fleshed out their movesets. It was also cooler to play with your friends because wrestling was hot.

Those circumstances aren’t replicable. The N64 is not cutting edge technology anymore. Wrestling is less popular than its ever been. The roster is not comprehensive. It’s likely going to be years out of date. Hell, the guy on the cover joined the company two years into development and is already gone before release. The commands might be similar to what you liked, but it’s going to feel outmoded and clunky compared to how guys work in 2022. Each guy has 8 basic moves? Each guy does more than that every match they have.

The answer to chasing this dragon isn’t a mini-game where you input button commands to get your character’s avatar to do the YMCA ffs. If you’ve got room to do that, put some more effort into your fucking roster.

You can’t even replicate the Stadium Stampede match if you wanted to. Over half Jericho’s team isn’t in the game.
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Old 11-09-2022, 05:17 PM   #12350
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It was fun and simple to play. Everything else is hard reaching to justify a poor take on something because of an association with AEW.


if I do play it and it sucks, I'll be the first to admit it, because of it being a bad game.




I would love for WWE to put one of their new games on GamePass. If it played well, I'd buy it. But no playable demo, no $$$$. It'll be the same for this game, GamePass or no.
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Old 11-09-2022, 05:43 PM   #12354
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but yeah woooooo super exicted for dynamite let's go wooooooo hope i make it home in time this week yay wooooooooooo
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GamePass is obviously a marketing strategy from Microsoft, but you’ve got to get a good chunk of money back, or recoup it somehow. You might get away with taking an L if it builds awareness for you.

This wasn’t going to do that. The game has been in production for over 3 years, has seen a change of head developer and basically had the team come out and apologize before it even hits market. I don’t know if I believe the $80 million number, but I do believe the story that it is severely over budget with no realistic way to make money back.

It isn’t going to GamePass anyway. It’s going to bomb in stores.
3 years is less than the average dev cycle
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Not really though. I may be your (something, something, something) dark side but I don't want to end up cancelled or on a registry.
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