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Old 12-08-2022, 01:28 PM   #12681
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lol, Fightful confirmed that Miro has been healthy for months and the fact that he hasn't been seen in months really does just come down to creative having nothing for him. Miro is said to be wanting to be on TV, and is just be waiting to be given something to do.

Problem is, there is no creative. It's just one guy who happens to be a scatterbrain with a massive roster. There's enough out there now where it's clear Khan mostly relies on talent to tell him what they want to do and make pitches. So this is just another glaring example that the creative process there sucks and they need an actual creative department to try to help with some of this shit.

Should Miro be more proactive in making pitches besides just saying "put me on TV?" Given the way they're structured, yeah, probably. But that doesn't take away from the fact that the process itself is shit. It shouldn't take an Einstein to figure out how to use goddamn Miro. You could have him do practically anything.
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Old 12-08-2022, 01:43 PM   #12682
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I had hope that Tony would at least push the right guys as the 90s WCW/Goldberg mark that he is but that doesn’t seem to be happening now as much as it was. Miro should be a main attraction. That being said, just keeping him off TV if you’re not prepared to push him correctly is at least preferable to putting him on TV just to do it and having him job to 160 lb gymnasts.
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Old 12-08-2022, 01:52 PM   #12683
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What if it were 160 lb gymnasts with broken freakin necks?!
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:07 PM   #12684
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If they need time to get miro into a meaningful program, you could just have him go out every week and obliterate some underneath guy until you figure it out.
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:13 PM   #12685
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Is he even on Dark/Elevation? If you gotta keep him off main TV that bad without something for him then at least let him do the jobber squashes/tryout matches on YT so he doesn't get rusty and the people watching those shows get a bigger talent on their screens sometimes.
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:14 PM   #12686
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i haven't been watching but i don't think so. i think tk has just kept him on the shelf which is mind bogglingly stupid.
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:15 PM   #12687
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If hes healthy then him not being in the battle royals at least is dumb as shit. He doesn't have to win but he can show he's still a threat at any time that way.
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:16 PM   #12688
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I bet its something stupid like them not knowing what to do with another big ole sweaty meat mountain when Wardlow and Joe are already filling that niche.
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I havent been paying as much attention, is he getting the murder machine treatment too finally?
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:18 PM   #12692
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nvm Ill take that second post as a no
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:19 PM   #12693
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I havent been paying as much attention, is he getting the murder machine treatment too finally?
i think they started some vignette sort of thing for him this week? or maybe it starts next week? i dunno but they aren't using him to destroy people every week which means they are doing it wrong.
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but i mean THANK GOD we get elite vs death triangle seven times in like seven weeks
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prob think if they have too many big powerhouses, pun intended, that they'll end up with the title division being overly dominated by them in the same way WWEs is.

This reeks of Chris Jericho trying to protect his own job
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not to say those matches haven't been fun but come on now
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:21 PM   #12697
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idk man jericho is one of my all time faves but you can get him the fuck off of my tv as things currently stand
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but i mean THANK GOD we get elite vs death triangle seven times in like seven weeks
Hey Im not complaining about that because I love DT and PAC is the best in the world.
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:49 PM   #12699
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If anything it just further highlights that AEW could basically rotate their roster every Dynamite like they did in the first couple of years. Even easier to do now with how much bigger the roster has gotten.

But it seems clear Tony feels the same guys need to be on every week and that just makes people even more susceptible to falling by the wayside.
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I bet its something stupid like them not knowing what to do with another big ole sweaty meat mountain when Wardlow and Joe are already filling that niche.
Well if that’s the case, his first problem is that he shouldn’t be thinking of big, sweaty meat mountains as a niche. You can never have too many.
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:58 PM   #12701
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I'd be cool with Miro being a hired gun that Swerve brings in to face Keith Lee if they ever actually finalize their Schrodinger's Swerve In Our Glory break-up.
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Pair Miro up with Leyla Hirsch but have Leyla be the scary one.
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My god they need to do something with ROH. Carve out 1/3 of the roster and designate the to ROH and keep them completely separate.
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They need RoH to get a deal first or it's pointless because they'll still be using the same AEW TV time that already limits them with a roster that size.
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Trying to get ROH a tv deal in 2022/2023 is like me trying to date a supermodel: ain't gonna happen.

Replace supermodel with "anything with a pulse" and it's still true (I'm so lonely, God I'm lonely.)
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Do a Round Robin TNT Title tournament featuring Samoa Joe, Wardlow, Powerhouse Hobbs, Miro, Lance Archer, and Brody King.

That’s 15 big meaty men slapping meat matches on TV. Doing one on Dynamite and one on Rampage still eats up nearly 2 months and gives all the hosses some time to shine.

This isn’t that difficult.
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Old 12-08-2022, 08:33 PM   #12709
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Old 12-08-2022, 08:44 PM   #12710
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Maxx Payne and Shawn Stasiak forming the team of “Man, Mountain, Meat”.

Missed opportunity, 90s WWF.
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Old 12-08-2022, 09:52 PM   #12711
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Miro should’ve had a World title program already. Truth be told he should’ve never lost the TNT title. The only one who I’d argue should have been considered was Kingston, but even then. They should’ve fed Sammy, Cody and Scorpio Sky to Miro. And then built to a huge match against Wardlow for TNT title at double or nothing. Make it a big deal and give Wardlow a big win fresh off beating MJF.

Then Miro could’ve taken a short sabbatical to rest and came back to give Moxley a fresh match. Cue Malakai Black and the house coming back to cost him the title, thus quasi turning him again and finishing the Miro Malakai feud in a singles match.

Easy
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Old 12-09-2022, 12:40 AM   #12712
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It really shuld not be that hard to find a spot for Miro. You could have him crushing cans on YouTube, then parading him out on Dynamite defeating some of the lower tier guys and using him to elevate a lower tier guy to mid-card level or using him to firmly establish a Jungle Boy or Yuta up the ladder and a credible threat.

You could have him in the Kane position, he can challenge for the World title and it feel credible... literally like someone said before me...

YOU CAN HAVE HIM ANYWHERE on the card... tag, opening, middle match, squash match, main event, Dark, You Tube, and it will be meaningful.
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Old 12-09-2022, 12:46 AM   #12713
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The only knock is he does not wrestle the AEW preferred style of high spots with flashy moves that ultimately mean nothing because they don;t get a 3 count.

When he first arrived on the scene he got himself over and also highlighted that the only way to defeat him was for his opponents to target his injured neck. So everytime the guys he fought for the TNT title used moves to target his neck... IT MEANT something because that was his vulnerability.
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Old 12-09-2022, 04:03 AM   #12714
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I think Tony teased something coming in early 2023 but at this point I’d consider doing something on YouTube just to start setting out defined lines. They’re using the TV to serve too many elements of the product, it’s confusing and clunky.
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Old 12-09-2022, 10:26 AM   #12715
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It's kind wild to think that tomorrow marks one year since Hook's first match where everyone was blown away. He's wrestled only 15 more times since his debut, and nearly all of them have been the same. It was fun for a little while but now it just feels more obvious they think he's too green to do more than he has.

Hopefully he's putting in work behind the scenes, because wrestling in highly choreographed squash matches once a month can only help you so much.
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I read the last time people saw Miro was All Out? So this charismatic brute that people actually want to see was successful in teaming with a living legend and a young up-and-comer homegrown by the promotion…and then just disappears for no reason? Imagine being a fan of Miro and plonking down $50 because you were invested in his role in the company then having this rug pulled out from under you.

CM Punk also disappeared without any on-air explanation. There are no doubt people who don’t care to research wrestling on the internet who have no clue about the situation with him and The Elite who think this is a big wacky storyline.

How the fuck can anyone justify a vote for Tony Khan as “Booker of the Year.” This shit makes no sense and slaps his paying customers in the face.
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Old 12-09-2022, 04:13 PM   #12718
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How many titles are in this damn company!?!
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The way Tony Khan books is the way you’d go about trying to bury talent so you could look them in the face and tell them you were trying to give them opportunities while you did it.
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Apparently FTR and The Acclaimed got a small bounce back in terms of viewership for their main event this week. Not enough to save the show, but probably enough to really piss The Bucks off. It’ll be interesting to see how they jam the stick into the spokes on that one.
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