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Old 11-11-2010, 02:09 PM   #1241
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I really liked Superman for All Seasons. All Star Superman was really good, but I could ha ve done without parts of it. Superman dying from Cancer is a great idea though.
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Old 11-13-2010, 03:31 AM   #1242
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So I bought every trade from JLA (the second volume of justice league) and I'm pretty split on it. Pretty much all the early stories are pretty meh, with Tower of Babel being the exception. Early Kyle Rayner is pretty fucking awful, and I'm amazed he lasted long enough to become a likeable character. Don't get me started on how dumb Zauriel is. It does kick up and get pretty good at about the halfway point,(Coincidentaly, post-90's. Imagine that.) but it never really gets great. Was surprised, as I'm a big fan of Grant Morrison, but his early work is just really generic, and doesn't take any of the bold moves that he's known for.

Then I got The Tornado's Path, which is the first trade in the third, and current volume of the Justice League. Just read it and holy shit, it's miles above any of the JLA trades. It's actually better than a lot of the big crossovers I've read. Planning on getting every trade now, like I did for JSA.

On a side note, I have to mention one gripe I have with the industry today, and that is this trend of releasing generic covers that just have a pin up shot of the main character or team standing there looking impressive.. Those are fine once and a while but for years now, most issues do this. I miss the days when the cover told you what was happening inside.

That was the best part about 52. Every single cover was awesome and involved the plot of the story within. I actually just ordered a trade that is nothing but the covers from 52. Just amazing work, right there.
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Old 11-13-2010, 03:35 AM   #1243
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Also, I always thought Vixen was lame, but not anymore. Had he shining moment in The Tornado's path. Always hated the character, but I still marked out like a bitch when it happened. The lead in to it was that good. The art also made her look crazy badass as well.
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Little off topic but this has been bugging me and I thought I might find some good answers here so here goes,why are villians portrayed as being so afraid of Batman (baring maybe the joker who is just gay for him in his own mass murdering psychotic way) I mean granted hes intimidating and its been said that even people who aren't afraid of Superman fear Batman (which is lampshaded twice in the JL/JLU animated shows) At some point they do have realize hes a mortal man an extraordinary mortal but a mortal nonetheless and yet they hand wave the threats of a man who could tear them apart like wet paper.

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Old 11-13-2010, 12:40 PM   #1246
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Old 11-13-2010, 03:33 PM   #1247
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Little off topic but this has been bugging me and I thought I might find some good answers here so here goes,why are villians portrayed as being so afraid of Batman (baring maybe the joker who is just gay for him in his own mass murdering psychotic way) I mean granted hes intimidating and its been said that even people who aren't afraid of Superman fear Batman (which is lampshaded twice in the JL/JLU animated shows) At some point they do have realize hes a mortal man an extraordinary mortal but a mortal nonetheless and yet they hand wave the threats of a man who could tear them apart like wet paper.

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Probably because he's a mortal man who was trained by all the best asskickers on earth, who has all the best gadgets to assist in asskickery, who has nothing better to do with his time than indulge in asskickery and has no qualms about unleashing said asskickery on anyone who fucks with his town?
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Old 11-13-2010, 04:00 PM   #1248
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Maybe because they don't know that he's a mortal man?
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Old 11-13-2010, 11:32 PM   #1249
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Well I would say by now all his regular villains know he's a mortal man, and are simply scared of how damn good he is. (He is the god damned Batman afterall.) Common street thugs still speculate though.
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So I bought every trade from JLA (the second volume of justice league) and I'm pretty split on it. Pretty much all the early stories are pretty meh, with Tower of Babel being the exception. Early Kyle Rayner is pretty fucking awful, and I'm amazed he lasted long enough to become a likeable character. Don't get me started on how dumb Zauriel is. It does kick up and get pretty good at about the halfway point,(Coincidentaly, post-90's. Imagine that.) but it never really gets great. Was surprised, as I'm a big fan of Grant Morrison, but his early work is just really generic, and doesn't take any of the bold moves that he's known for.

Then I got The Tornado's Path, which is the first trade in the third, and current volume of the Justice League. Just read it and holy shit, it's miles above any of the JLA trades. It's actually better than a lot of the big crossovers I've read. Planning on getting every trade now, like I did for JSA.

On a side note, I have to mention one gripe I have with the industry today, and that is this trend of releasing generic covers that just have a pin up shot of the main character or team standing there looking impressive.. Those are fine once and a while but for years now, most issues do this. I miss the days when the cover told you what was happening inside.

That was the best part about 52. Every single cover was awesome and involved the plot of the story within. I actually just ordered a trade that is nothing but the covers from 52. Just amazing work, right there.

Haven't read any of the old JLA stuff, but have read the current Justice League series from the beginning. It starts off great, with tons of potential, but kind of... I dunno... just dies. Only now is it starting to recover again.
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Old 11-14-2010, 12:12 PM   #1251
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Well Brad Meltzer only wrote for 13 issues, so I'm going to take a shot in the dark, and say that's when it start's to taper off.


Also, Meltzer >>>>>>>> Garth Ennis

Ennis writes some really good stories in Preacher, and the boys, but he tries too hard to appeal to the mature audience.

One single disgusting, brutal moment, that has been properly built up to, has way more meaning and impact than a comic full of the stuff. Meltzer knows this, and it's why Identity Crisis and Tornado's path hit so hard. I've suspected Ennis was overrated for a while now, and this just confirms it.
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That Green Lantern film looks cool, but not too keen on the costume, what's up with it looking really CGI.
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It is CGI. I was hoping it would look better since they were so inclined to do it this way, but it still came off obvious. Everything else is alright.
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Yeah, the effects and everything looks cool, but fuck when he goes into his costume it's stands out like a great big massive... CGI costume!!!
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:58 PM   #1255
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I saw an ad in the newspaper for Batman Live, any ideas?
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:35 PM   #1256
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That must be the live tour they're planning for Batman. Not a musical, but some kind of stage production.

Weird.
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Damn that Green Lantern costume looks pretty bad in places. I was afraid of that. The rest looks okay I guess. Not much to see other than a few quick shots though.
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RUMOR: Batman TV Series Planned to Reintroduce Joker Character Without Ledger

One of our insider sources has sent in the early thinking about plans WB is hatching for the blockbuster Batman franchise, and this time its about a move to the small screen after The Dark Knight Rises.

WB has no plans to rush out another Batman Movie once Chris Nolan has completed The Dark Knight Rises. Instead, the heads in power are looking at something to do with TV.

The idea comes from the successful tv transitions of SmallVille and Sherlock Holmes--the Hartswood Films/BBC Television show of the same name starring Benedict Cumberbatch that screened recently.

So, WB is looking at putting together a live action Batman TV series. The Head Executive in charge (name removed to protect source) who has overseen the development and production of such notable hits as: "Two and a Half Men", "The Mentalist", "ER", "The West Wing", "Without A Trace" and "Friends", has been given the task. He would like to keep it in line with the Nolan movies. No word on any stories or script, but he wants a real world feel with young adult audiences in mind".

It has also been mentioned that this is a way to re-introduce The Joker as a completely new version and not step on Heath’s memory/version, as WB knows this is a sensitive subject. They believe that the Joker alone will garner ratings through the roof and are already planning on a closed set with extremely tight security to prevent any leaked footage.

The Actor they have mentioned as a "type" to play Batman/Bruce Wayne is Karl Urban. Karl plays Dr. McCoy in the new Star Trek franchise.


Keep in mind, that this VERY EARLY talk, but if it is true that a WB head has been put in charge of development, it shows that they are indeed serious about a move to the small screen.
Hmmmm. Dunno about this, if true.
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http://io9.com/5692485/watch-the-six...-supervillains

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I will go see that Batman live thing, no doubt
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No YouTube link yet. The show looks great.
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Possible Overview of Superman Reboot:

"[Kent is] a young journalist, traveling for the globe, who would rather solve problems and help people without resorting to using his special powers. When he is compelled to use his secret powers to intervene in a crisis in West Africa, Clark returns to Smallville to learn more about his origins and the hero he was born to be."

It's been noted as sounding like Batman Begins, but I personally see a bit of Birthright in there. Also:

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Rumor has it director Zack Snyder visited Avatar's special effects crew, because he wants his version of Superman — rumored to be Watchmen's Matthew Goode — to be fully CG. Has Snyder been smoking the Ava-crack?

Movienewz is reporting that director Snyder, "has plans to rely heavily on CGI for the Man of Steel." Which we can only imagine would mean Goode in the flesh for all of the Clark Kent shots, and some sort of Green Lantern-meets-Avatar CG nonsense when he's kicking butt as the Man Of Steel.
People need to calm down. Snyder loves to pretty up shots but this shit about Avatar-ish Superman doesn't even describe his style. Goode as Superman may work, but I'll miss Routh.
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Possible Overview of Superman Reboot:

"[Kent is] a young journalist, traveling for the globe, who would rather solve problems and help people without resorting to using his special powers. When he is compelled to use his secret powers to intervene in a crisis in West Africa, Clark returns to Smallville to learn more about his origins and the hero he was born to be."

It's been noted as sounding like Batman Begins, but I personally see a bit of Birthright in there. Also:



People need to calm down. Snyder loves to pretty up shots but this shit about Avatar-ish Superman doesn't even describe his style. Goode as Superman may work, but I'll miss Routh.
Unless Doomsday rises from the plains of West Africa, I'm not sold on this shit at all.

Plus, a CG Superman? Fuck that. This isn't Doctor Manhattan for Christ's sake.
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Withholding judgment, because Snyder made 300 and Sucker Punch.
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Old 11-25-2010, 02:21 AM   #1267
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Hmmm......well, sounds like they're pulling the opening sequence right out of Birthright, which is my absolute favorite version of the origin-story, so I'm happy with that.

I'll reserve judgment on how CGing Superman will turn out. I'm assuming they mean for when he's actually flying around and moving at super-speed and whatnot, because the idea of him just being all CGI all the time makes no sense. Unless the whole world is also CGI and they're going for a Beowulf sort of thing.

Also, why does everyone want them to do Doomsday? He's a fucking bland and boring monster (I can't even really call him a "villain" or even a "character," because literally all he does is roar and break stuff), which would make for some pretty dull storytelling without being backed up by more interesting villains. Not to mention that since the only notable thing Doomsday ever did was the Death of Superman (which was a pretty shitty comic itself, honestly), it makes no sense whatsoever for him to be in the very first movie of a new series, since y'know, they're trying to start a new series instead of end it.
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They should stop dicking around and give us 'corporate criminal' Luthor, perhaps played by the guy from Dexter. That's my favorite Luthor and he would absolutely be a topical villain. And if they're making a tale around the nature of having great power, perhaps they should toss Parasite in there. Raimi liked to form a story and choose villains that fit within Peter's current struggle, so if this Superman is learning about having power he should face someone who mistreats the notion.

Parasite would of course be a product of Luthor Corp, not that Lex would be convicted of anything.
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I've never been a fan of evil corporate Lex, at least when that's the dominant part of his character-- it always came off as a second rate ripoff of Norman Osborn or Kingpin to me. I don't mind it when Lexcorp and everything else is just a by-product of him being a mega genius, since that was able to combine the modern evil billionaire with the old world-conquering mad scientist. Something closer to how Lex was in the Justice League cartoons.

But then, that's mostly because I prefer villains to be more hands-on and large scale, instead of just setting someone else to take the fall. Kingpin is probably my absolute least favorite villain for that exact reason.
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But those are the most effective villains! I remember Roland Dagget in Batman TAS, and getting legitimately pissed when he walked off a scene clean when we all knew he cause a lot of messes. So when the hero gets his hands on a villain like that, it can be very satisfying.
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In the case of street-level heroes like Batman, sure, villains like that work. But if you're going to have a legitimate arch-enemy for Superman, he needs to be every bit as massive-scale as he is, someone who's just as much of a threat to the entire human race as Superman is a benefit to it. Not someone who sits around in his office going on about how "untouchable" he is.
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Not to sound like one of those nerds but Luthor Corp is international, there's branches all over the world. I'd readily believe it has a private military, though no stories presented that far as I know.
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Well, I'm not saying to not have Lexcorp/Luthorcorp as an element of it; most of my favorite Luthor stories have it in there. And I really don't want to see him running around in that ridiculous green battle-suit that he started wearing in the early 80s. But I've always felt that Lex is the kind of guy who's bent more on gaining genuine power rather than just making money, using his company and his wealth as just another means to an end for some even bigger master plan. Post-Crisis Luthor (especially during Byrne's original run) was more just bent on making himself richer, which to me made him less of an actual villain and more of just a dick.

I prefer the Armani suits and the giant tower to the old days of the purple spandex (or the real-estate schemes from the Donner movies), but to me, the obsessive megalomaniac is a far more interesting villain than a guy who just wants his stocks to rise a little higher.
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I thought Luthor was traditional motivated toward world domination, influence, power... It's always more than money for him. I merely left that without saying. I pretty much agree with you, just want you to know I'm not talking about some strictly CEO Lex.
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Ah, I gotcha. Again, when I think of people talking about "Lexcorp Lex," I always think of late 80s John Byrne-era Lex, who again, was just kind of a half-assed ripoff of Kingpin. Which isn't surprising, since so much of Byrne-era Supes felt like just a half-assed ripoff of the late 80s Marvel universe.
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History repeats itself with Green "Iron Man" Lantern. Though I hope in doing so, the movie still entertains.
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Goode is way too scrawny. Hope he bulks up, if it's true.
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Dunno, evil corporate Luthor was absolutely amazing in 52.
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He'd obviously work out, that's a given.
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