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Old 02-25-2015, 06:59 PM   #13641
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Awarded because Edge used the spear behind the refs back when it was banned. It was a pinfall victory by Edge though.
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Old 02-25-2015, 07:00 PM   #13642
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That's coz WWE sucks so bad at the moment.

I've been a fan since 1993, and up until about a year ago I watched religiously. Every show. Now; I watch Raw every week, but skim through it all in about an hour. I watch Main Event if there's a noteworthy match, and even that I skim through, and I haven't actually watched Smackdown for a few months now.

WWE is just so unbearable at the moment. I can't not follow the product as it's been such a huge part of my entire life, but God it is just so bad right now. The stories are all mostly shite and it's impossible to really "care" for anyone since pushes come and go and everything is so inconsistent right now.

It's Wrestlemania season right now and I honestly couldn't give a rats ass about anything. Not interested in Lesnar/Reigns. Not interested in Wyatt/Undertaker. Not interested in Sting/Triple H.

I don't wanna "lose" pro wrestling and the WWE, but damn it's so hard to follow and enjoy the product lately.
Couldn't have stated how I feel any better than this.
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Old 02-25-2015, 07:04 PM   #13643
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That's coz WWE sucks so bad at the moment.

I've been a fan since 1993, and up until about a year ago I watched religiously. Every show. Now; I watch Raw every week, but skim through it all in about an hour. I watch Main Event if there's a noteworthy match, and even that I skim through, and I haven't actually watched Smackdown for a few months now.

WWE is just so unbearable at the moment. I can't not follow the product as it's been such a huge part of my entire life, but God it is just so bad right now. The stories are all mostly shite and it's impossible to really "care" for anyone since pushes come and go and everything is so inconsistent right now.

It's Wrestlemania season right now and I honestly couldn't give a rats ass about anything. Not interested in Lesnar/Reigns. Not interested in Wyatt/Undertaker. Not interested in Sting/Triple H.

I don't wanna "lose" pro wrestling and the WWE, but damn it's so hard to follow and enjoy the product lately.
NXT is tonight.
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Old 02-25-2015, 07:06 PM   #13644
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NXT falls under the same category as Raw. I watch it every week, but skim through most of it. That's mainly just due to lack of time, and since it's not "canon" WWE. If that makes sense. But yeah NXT is the best stuff coming out of WWE at the moment.
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Old 02-25-2015, 08:48 PM   #13645
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I feel the same way. I was so excited for the WWE post-WrestleMania XXX too. I really feel that you should be able to look at what comes out of one WrestleMania, look at the next, and see the story of the year. Here is the WrestleMania card I was looking forward to seeing:

WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Daniel Bryan

Triple Threat Match
Seth Rollins vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Roman Reigns

The Game vs. The Icon
Triple H vs. Sting

The Rock vs. Bray Wyatt

Intercontinental Championship
Cesaro (c) vs. John Cena

Divas Championship
Special Guest Referee: Stephanie McMahon
AJ Lee (c) vs. Paige

Ladder Match for the WWE Tag Team Championship
The Usos (c) vs. The Wyatt Family vs. Dolph Ziggler & Kofi Kingston vs. Jack Swagger & Stardust

United States Championship
The Miz (c) vs. Sami Zayn

Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Everybody else fighting in a Battle Royal that actually means something after Cesaro has done something with his career

But I guess I prefer story over stars, as that other thread questioned. Nothing on this WrestleMania card is really shaping up to be that epic. Well, Triple H vs. Sting exists on both, Cena is fighting for a mid-card title against a foreign heel beast and Bray Wyatt is taking on a legendary part-timer; but I'd prefer Cesaro to Rusev, Zayn to Mizdow and The Rock to Taker.
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Old 02-25-2015, 09:18 PM   #13646
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Old 02-25-2015, 09:23 PM   #13647
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I remember thinking that the time was right around here for a Drew McIntyre face turn. Vickie Guerrero was abusing her power as the acting General Manager of SmackDown, and she made a target out of Kelly Kelly. Drew standing up for her would have made perfect sense. Edge was set to face Alberto Del Rio. Dolph Ziggler vs. Drew McIntyre would have been something...interesting. Ziggler vs. Morrison became a lot of fun between two rising stars, but it was sort of slapped together.
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Old 02-25-2015, 10:29 PM   #13649
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Just watched the Daniel Bryan Wrestlemania 30 follow-along on the Network today during lunch, and now I'm even more pissed off about him not being in the main event.

Like, the crowd fucking loves him. Seemingly everyone in the business loves him. His story was so good last year and would be so good this year.

Instead we're getting a guy half the crowd hates and who has two facial expressions against Our Father of Suplex.

I just don't get why they're so resistant to it. I do understand wanting to try and make a new star, but this may go the way of Orton's first world championship reign that took years for him to recover from.

I'm trying to think of another time they've so obviously went against crowd popularity, but it's not like they ever bumped Steve Austin out of the title picture for Marc Mero in 97 or 98.
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:45 AM   #13650
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Just watched the Daniel Bryan Wrestlemania 30 follow-along on the Network today during lunch, and now I'm even more pissed off about him not being in the main event.

Like, the crowd fucking loves him. Seemingly everyone in the business loves him. His story was so good last year and would be so good this year.

Instead we're getting a guy half the crowd hates and who has two facial expressions against Our Father of Suplex.

I just don't get why they're so resistant to it. I do understand wanting to try and make a new star, but this may go the way of Orton's first world championship reign that took years for him to recover from.

I'm trying to think of another time they've so obviously went against crowd popularity, but it's not like they ever bumped Steve Austin out of the title picture for Marc Mero in 97 or 98.
Yep. Roman Reigns hasn't really done too much worth remembering as a singles star. He was bad-ass with The Shield, but that whole dynamic has changed now. Reigns' best story for Mania this year would have been going against Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose in a Triple Threat, as I have supported many times. And Reigns should have won that match. And it should have been treated as a HUGE deal. And when Seth Rollins won the WWE World Title from Daniel Bryan using Money in the Bank, you better believe that Reigns would have been in the title conversation. But WrestleMania doesn't feel like the right time.

If the company had taken a chance and put the WWE Title on him at Money in the Bank, and had him be the guy to drop it to Brock Lesnar, then at least this match could have the story of being revenge for Reigns. The story is so...blocked in.

Daniel Bryan's WrestleMania position would have been an organic one. A WrestleMania-to-WrestleMania story, in many a sense, and Bryan didn't even need to get pinned to lose the title to set it up. Fuck, Bryan could have made Reigns himself at SummerSlam or something.
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Yep. Roman Reigns hasn't really done too much worth remembering as a singles star. He was bad-ass with The Shield, but that whole dynamic has changed now. Reigns' best story for Mania this year would have been going against Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose in a Triple Threat, as I have supported many times.
Why would Reigns and Ambrose want to fight each other?
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Daniel Bryan should snap and become a badass roundhouse-kick machine, leading to him interrupting every match at Wrestlemania and roundhouse kicking all competitors to death.

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Screaming "ROADHOUSE" afterwards is optional but strongly suggested.
This is fucking stupid.


It is NOT optional.
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[Samoa] Joe has also had an offer, or at least confirmed opening interest and conversation, from Lucha Underground, from AAA, and an apparently solid offer from New Japan, which may be New Japan using him outright, although we’ve been told more likely sending him to bolster NOAH at first and eventually move over. There is also what was described as active talks from WWE, which is why right now his long-term plans are very much open.
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This is what we do know. Lesnar flew into Nashville and was there when the show started. There was a business disagreement between Lesnar and Vince McMahon, related to negotiations regarding Lesnar signing a new contract. Speculation that the negotiations included Lesnar wanting to do a UFC fight while under his next WWE contract were not part of this at all. It was only related to the offer and terms of the new contact itself.

The situation, which was not settled at press time, could be settled quickly and perhaps even easily but right now the two sides are at a key impasse related to the new deal and neither side wants to be the one to back down.

What that disagreement was over has been kept secret, but we were told it was all business and had nothing at all to do with current or future creative. The business dispute related to why he didn’t appear on the show, and the company was forced to change its scripting. Lesnar left the arena while the show was going on and flew home. There were reports that he flew on his private jet, but that’s incorrect. When Lesnar comes to WWE shows, the WWE provides him a private jet from his home and back to his home as one of the stipulations of his contract.
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At the end of the day, my thought is that this is not so much financial, because it will be next to impossible to prove that Brooks’ allegations against Amann cost him any money–since WWE never dropped him. The object is more to get Punk to settle and publicly apologize for what he said, or for WWE to get a public “win” over Punk because Punk bettered them badly in round one in the court of public opinion, and then waltzed over to the company they are most compared to and most paranoid about those comparisons with.

If he apologized for anything about the Amman story, the WWE could take it as a victory and throw into question everything he said about Paul Levesque, which is the real key to all this. Brooks painted Levesque as someone incompetent at his job, who couldn’t even remember basic dates of tours that anyone in wrestling would know without thinking. He also painted McMahon as an out-of-touch old man.
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Michael Bennett & Matt Taven are expected to get a major push shortly here. Hiroshi Tanahashi is a big supporter of Bennett. The impression is that they may get a tag team push but that Bennett and Maria would eventually get a big singles push. You’ll be able to tell by the booking, as when Bennett & Taven team and lose, if they split who loses the falls, then that says one thing, but if Taven is the one asked to lose, that will confirm it as Gedo comes from the school where the winner and loser of the fall in tag matches are done for a reason.
Those two (plus Maria) are the ROH stars NJPW wants for the next Japan trip.

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The company has been in preliminary talks with both AXS and Spike. I don’t know how serious either are, past the point that they, in fact, both have taken place. ROH made a pitch to AXS and I don’t know that anything happened from there, as it’s nothing anyone is talking about. My impression is AXS is happy with New Japan. AXS, when it was HD-Net, aired ROH from 2009 to 2011, when HD-Net opted not to renew the deal. With Spike, the sides are talking right now although it’s premature to say they are serious, since key people in both companies weren’t even aware of the talks, but we have since gotten confirmation that talks are taking place. The idea would be a Friday night show that would air about once per month, with Spike having a regular rotation of Bellator, Glory, Al Haymon’s boxing and pro wrestling. That would be a big coup for exposure, since Spike is in 83 percent of the country and Sinclair Broadcasting syndicated stations make up 37.5% of the country (ROH has a few non-Sinclair stations so they are in close to 40%).
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One of the reasons the frustration level is even above usual levels here is that the talent was together for the U.K. tour a few weeks ago and were talking to each other and realized that there are no house shows planned, and no PPV shows planned (past the taped ones that just took place that nobody actually buys and are only done to fulfill existing international television contracts) and since almost everyone except the few top guys are paid by appearance, there was a realization that almost everyone was going to earn substantially less in 2015. There’s also the recognition that all TNA is doing at this point is staving off dying as opposed to before, when, whether true or not, the idea was that they were at least trying to grow.
Between last year's attempt as cutbacks and the new tv deal, TNA is still facing serious financial problems.

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The show was built around confusing all the fans who wanted to cheer Orton. It kept people into the show longer, but thus far seems to have weakened Orton’s babyface turn. Funny, I learned so much from that botched Del Rio babyface turn, and the people here must think it was cool. I guess forgetting the part that Del Rio’s babyface turn that they counted out was so effective they had to turn him back and he wound up in obscurity. But I now can’t wait for the Mayweather-Pacquiao buildup because everyone learns from WWE, and now they are going to have the promoter treat them both like they are first graders, make them meekly shut up, and talk them into being best friends four weeks before their fight because it’ll swerve the audience, and you need that to top 3 million buys.
Meltzer lashing out on the idiotic booking the WWE did this week (and in general since going into the Rumble).

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Ring of Honor Wrestling® (“ROH”) is happy to announce that we will once again partner with New Japan Pro-Wrestling® to present three must-see super shows for pro wrestling fans.

Details available at this time include the dates & locations of the three events. ROH & NJPW stars will be announced at a later date.

WAR OF THE WORLDS ’15 will be held Wednesday, May 13th, 2015 in Philadelphia at the 2300 Arena, formerly known worldwide as the ECW Arena. Tickets are on sale now for Ringside members now and go on sale to the general public Friday, February 27th @ 10am Est. Ringside members can get their pre sale code here. Tickets are on sale exclusively through the 2300 Arena, and are available by clicking here.

GLOBAL WARS ’15 will be held on Friday, May 15th and Saturday, May 16th, 2015 at the Ted Reeve Arena, located in Toronto, Ontario. Tickets are on sale now for both events, and are available here.

The COO of ROH Joe Koff when asked about the events said: "We're very excited to once again bring the stars of New Japan to our great fans. New Japan Pro-Wrestling is a fantastic partner with exceptional wrestlers and we always strive to give our fans an experience of a lifetime. With these three stacked events, showcasing the best wrestlers in the world, we will do just that.”
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"With Roman Reigns cleanly pinning Daniel Bryan in what was a hell of a main event on Fast Lane, it’s very clear that Vince McMahon is still planning on the scenario he’s probably had for probably one year, with Reigns beating Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania.

Fan reaction at the Royal Rumble, and since the Royal Rumble, largely indicated that scenario was backfiring. Forgetting about Bryan, and forgetting about skill level or being ready or even talking ability, Reigns is nowhere near as over and doesn’t feel like he has anywhere near the momentum of the babyface who is going to chase and win the title on the biggest show of the year.

What’s notable is that 21 years ago, a younger Vince McMahon was in the same position, choosing between his own hand-picked next star of the company, tall bodybuilder Lex Luger, or one of the best in-ring performers of that time, Bret Hart. Historically, Luger was far closer to what McMahon liked his champions to look like. But Hart was more popular among the fans. Faced with the crowd reaction in the laboratory setting of a big show, the fans liked Hart more than Luger when they squared off. The WrestleMania original plan, Luger beating Yokozuna to win the title, was changed to Hart. Luger’s momentum was lost, and a little over two years later, working as part of a mid-card tag team he walked out on the company. Hart became the company’s biggest star, before he was gone more than three years later.

This time, McMahon went with the original plan. It was acknowledged that Reigns wasn’t over like he should have been. So they went to work. They brought in his cousin, Dwayne Johnson, to make his Royal Rumble win even bigger. But the miscalculation of putting Bryan in the Rumble made the whole scenario backfire, and even the endorsement of Johnson didn’t matter.
Part of a longer article regarding Vince going all out with Reigns, Bryan's depressing star future, and the WWE being hell bent on defeating the fans this year. Link to the article below.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc..._on_fast_lane/

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While it is about looks for men to a degree, you will never see an unattractive woman with a bad genetic body, no matter how talented they are technically, in a WWE ring. Sara Amato, who trains the women in NXT, I would not call unattractive at all, yet she was deemed not attractive enough to be anything but be a trainer, even though she was a more talented wrestler than almost all on the roster. Melissa Anderson is probably the furthest thing from unattractive, yet she never did nor is she likely to ever get a WWE look and it was said to be because she didn’t have the right look. One woman who was cut by WWE, and ended up having a successful long career in TNA, said she was told when released by John Laurinaitis, even though she was doing well as a wrestler, that, “We’re looking for tens and you’re not that.” Others at the recruiting level were told that while WWE no longer would allow their performers to pose in Playboy, what they are mainly looking for is women physically attractive enough to do so.
Related to the article regarding the recent AJ/Steph Twitter stuff and likely AJ's future with the company. Link to that article below.
http://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircl..._tweetsreturn/


Some other sheet news include Sasha Banks confirming scanning for WWE 2k16 has started and she's in the game and Rey Mysterio's WWE tenure is almost over now that he got moved to the website's Alumni section.
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Old 02-26-2015, 06:40 PM   #13664
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:13 PM   #13665
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It seems like if the WWE doesn't get cheers then they could still fight through the boos but if the audience just sat quietly or stood up with their backs turned when someone they didn't like wins then I think WWE would scramble to please the fans.
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:14 PM   #13666
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:42 PM   #13667
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:27 PM   #13670
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:28 PM   #13671
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:57 PM   #13672
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Why would Reigns and Ambrose want to fight each other?
Personal pride. Ambrose and Reigns were at each other's throats during the dying days of The Shield. It was a large part of why Seth Rollins turning heel made sense -- he was sick of holding that unit together and he wanted a World Title future for himself.

But on a more immediate level, you could have set this up very easily in the Royal Rumble. Seth Rollins would lose the Triple Threat, but then be entered into the Rumble, because he's The Authority's guy and they were holding a space open for him anyway. Rollins looks incredible, despite his earlier wars (he's a top star, after all), but he eventually gets clotheslined out by Reigns. Rollins just stares back from the floor, as Reigns perhaps gives Rollins a wink or a mock Shield fist-bump. Instead of going to the back, Rollins grabs the leg of Reigns, who is then dumped out by Ambrose -- who gets the elimination unknowingly with the assist of the man on this planet he hates the most.

At Fastlane, to blow off the Orton vs. Rollins drama, you have them face-off in a match. Orton can even win that when he hits an RKO off a springboard attempt from Rollins, or something equally awesome. Rollins has been so well protected at this point. Reigns & Ambrose can be forced into a tag team match against two of The Authority's stooges. Maybe Big Show & Kane? Ambrose and Reigns can win after Ambrose gets the pin after a Reigns Spear, and Ambrose has blind-tagged himself in.

Simple, time-tested stuff.
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Old 02-26-2015, 09:13 PM   #13673
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What’s notable is that 21 years ago, a younger Vince McMahon was in the same position, choosing between his own hand-picked next star of the company, tall bodybuilder Lex Luger, or one of the best in-ring performers of that time, Bret Hart. Historically, Luger was far closer to what McMahon liked his champions to look like. But Hart was more popular among the fans. Faced with the crowd reaction in the laboratory setting of a big show, the fans liked Hart more than Luger when they squared off. The WrestleMania original plan, Luger beating Yokozuna to win the title, was changed to Hart. Luger’s momentum was lost, and a little over two years later, working as part of a mid-card tag team he walked out on the company. Hart became the company’s biggest star, before he was gone more than three years later.

This time, McMahon went with the original plan. It was acknowledged that Reigns wasn’t over like he should have been. So they went to work. They brought in his cousin, Dwayne Johnson, to make his Royal Rumble win even bigger. But the miscalculation of putting Bryan in the Rumble made the whole scenario backfire, and even the endorsement of Johnson didn’t matter.
Considering how poorly Bret as champ worked out for the company, if that scenario was indeed on his mind, no wonder he didn't break his plans.
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Old 02-26-2015, 09:29 PM   #13674
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So Rey Mysterio gone from the WWE. Thoughts anyone? The end of an era?
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Old 02-26-2015, 09:38 PM   #13676
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Rey Mysterio was a fantastic talent. All you have to do is look over his body of work to see how many great matches he had, even just under the WWE umbrella. It's a shame things disintergrated between him and the WWE.
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Rey Mysterio has only worked a handful of matches in the past 5 years. It is long past due for him to retire or work part time.
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Apparently there's going to be a ladder match for the IC Title at Wrestlemania. I'm okay with this.
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I'm okay with this, but it just doesn't...jump out at me. I'd rather see a Ladder Match for the Tag Team Titles. Or Seth Rollins gets forced to defend his Money in the Bank contract against some rivals, old and new. I was just hoping for Bad News Barrett vs. Dean Ambrose in a straight-forward match built around how much both want to be the IC Champion.
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