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Old 06-18-2019, 04:18 PM   #1441
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Old 06-18-2019, 06:58 PM   #1442
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Well it might be 4 titles but I'm not entirely sure they'll have a midcard singles one for a while. Khan said he wanted to eventually introduce women's tag belts, and given how many women they've signed along with their pipeline into the joshi world, I think they could actually have a killer division that would get attention.

So maybe it'll be a men's title, a women's title, and tag titles for each. And that's it. People not in title programs will feud over other stuff.
Probably need to double the amount of women they have now in order to have a healthy women's title division, women's tag division, and women non-title feuds.

5 belts should be the limit since a split of 3 for Men and 2 for Women is enough for the roster size they want and have the belts remain very meaningful to win and hold.
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Old 06-18-2019, 07:22 PM   #1443
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There doesn't need to be a mid-card title in AEW.
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:51 PM   #1444
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Didn't learn much from the Kahn interview with Austin. Tag tournament once TV starts.
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Old 06-19-2019, 10:58 PM   #1445
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In the "its news to me" folder

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Old 06-19-2019, 11:39 PM   #1446
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there's no titles in any of those
WWE sends them championship belts though. Kinda sorta the same then.
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Old 06-19-2019, 11:45 PM   #1447
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Link doesn't work. First ever transgender wrestler signed to AEW in Feb.
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Old 06-19-2019, 11:48 PM   #1448
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Didn't learn much from the Kahn interview with Austin. Tag tournament once TV starts.
I sort of wish AEW was funded by anybody but somebody with the name Khan. I hate when people misspell it because Star Trek.
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:22 AM   #1449
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Link doesn't work. First ever transgender wrestler signed to AEW in Feb.
https://www.si.com/wrestling/2019/06...rce=reddit.com

hope that works

the article had one of her early indie matches



not gonna lie, she looks more like a woman now then she did in that match.

I didnt have a lot of an opinion on her match at DoN since her and Kong were out of the ring more than in it.
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:33 AM   #1450
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Good for her. Way better for the inclusion cause than Sonny Kiss.
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:59 AM   #1451
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One of the big reasons it is bad is because its spread too thin. Think about if nxt had a ppv every 4 weeks and had 5 hours of TV to fill every week.
I still don't really believe that. Not at face value. It's not spread too thin just because they have a lot of TV time to fill. They have too much TV time to fill, and they choose to fill it with nonsense segments and "the same people". Even going back to the HHH Reign of Terror... that wouldn't even have been a thing if the man wasn't constantly eating up about 50 minutes of a 2 hour show on average. That's too much, even if he was the World Champ. Hell, especially being World Champ.

They have this idea that if so-and-so is over and he or she doesn't appear at a show/on TV, the "fans feel cheated" or will somehow "forget about them", so they overexpose the hell out of who is over and/or currently a champion and speed up running them into the ground. You have 100 talents on your roster, and you choose to repeatedly focus on the same 20 every week, and maybe throw in another random 10 from the leftover 80, when that time could be better served showing more of the ones who aren't getting showcased at all. They have 5 hours, and what isn't chock full of commercials are filled with the same old shit or something they've unintentionally established means nothing.

Personal feelings aside and simply asking this objectively: why should I care in any way about Mojo Rawley? Everytime that Elias seems to be on the cusp of getting an actual push, he lands in another dead-end and then goes back to his "i'mm a sing a song insulting this city and get interrupted" thing that he's been doing for... how many years now? I should care more about Kingston vs Ziggler, since I have long maintained they are (or at least were years ago) the Steamboat/Flair to one another in the matches they used to have. But both guys have been so misused over such a long period of time that this isn't the "must see" match it could have and should have been... and in fact, this was an afterthought because they wanted to cynically push Ali in a clear bid for a bigger reaction for yet another Middle East show like they were doing with Jinder for India or ADR for Mexico.

If NXT had 5 hours to fill a week and a PPV every 4 weeks, they would be having matches between people you don't normally see. Your champions and their PPV opponents wouldn't be talking a bunch to open every show and then touching in the main event every week.


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Really h8 that NXT added N American Title...their roster isn't big enough to support that IMO

Everyone should want to be NXT champ
I didn't like it at first either, but none of the champions are overexposed, so it doesn't matter that they've added some "midcard" stakes. There's other shit going on. Yeah, Adam Cole is NXT Champion. Guess what? He won't be in a match every week. He won't even be on TV every week.

The mistake the main roster would make is to have all the champs featured every week without allowing room for anyone else to grow. See my previous comments on the previous quote.
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:06 AM   #1452
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fuck it. not fresh enough. No belts at all. guys fight for food instead #thinkforward #rightsideofhistory

Why not both?

Make this legit AND count as a legit coupon for free meals for the holder. And they're all shoots.

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#BringBackBloodFEUDS
Not everything has to be about belts or trophies or verbal titles. Sometimes, you just need good ol' fashioned hatred.
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Old 06-20-2019, 09:08 AM   #1453
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When you've got 5 hours of television a week and want to put emphasis on a few different things, like a pro-wrestling company should, you almost have to feature the same people. This really is a logistical problem. There is no way for talent not to be overexposed in this environment. And yeah, they are overexposed, even if they aren't on TV every week. Finn Balor isn't more over because he's not being used -- he looks less important and he's still boring and the idea of him wrestling anyone feels played out, even if the match hasn't actually happened. It's as much the idea of content running as it is what the actual content is too.

A 5-hour product is just fatiguing. In terms of commitment. But also you can't spin that many plates -- they all end up crashing down. And you also can't spin only a few, because then it gets so fucking boring so fucking quick.
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Old 06-20-2019, 03:06 PM   #1454
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According to the Observer, the current holdup with AEW making an official announcement regarding the debut of their weekly tv show is stuff on TNT's side related to international markets. TNT is still working on stuff for those markets and until they are done, AEW has to remain on standby.

Wednesday is the current front runner for the day of the week for the show.
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Why not both?

Make this legit AND count as a legit coupon for free meals for the holder. And they're all shoots.



Not everything has to be about belts or trophies or verbal titles. Sometimes, you just need good ol' fashioned hatred.

If that title ever becomes real in the next 5 years, sign me up. After 40 I don't plan on chasing a belt with such prestige
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When you've got 5 hours of television a week and want to put emphasis on a few different things, like a pro-wrestling company should, you almost have to feature the same people. This really is a logistical problem. There is no way for talent not to be overexposed in this environment. And yeah, they are overexposed, even if they aren't on TV every week. Finn Balor isn't more over because he's not being used -- he looks less important and he's still boring and the idea of him wrestling anyone feels played out, even if the match hasn't actually happened. It's as much the idea of content running as it is what the actual content is too.

A 5-hour product is just fatiguing. In terms of commitment. But also you can't spin that many plates -- they all end up crashing down. And you also can't spin only a few, because then it gets so fucking boring so fucking quick.
So true.
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Finn Balor isn't more over because he's not being used -- he looks less important and he's still boring and the idea of him wrestling anyone feels played out, even if the match hasn't actually happened. I
Because they already ran him into the ground and established him as an also-ran. Goes back to the difference between main roster and NXT.

He's less important because they've established that he's less important. In NXT, his matches were a big deal, and demon appearances were "HOLY SHIT!" On main roster, he's been distilled down to "jobber unless wearing paint" Not saying keeping everyone off TV will solve all their problems. What I'm saying is they could use that time to make Finn Balor important again instead of consentrating on Brock Lesnar, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, and the second coming of the HHH Reign of Terror in Shane "Best In The Wooooooorld" McMahon all the time.

They have such a breadth of talent, but so few of them feel in any way important. They may even start out with so much hype and spotlight, and that fades so quickly due to indifference (any tag team callup), mishandling (Asuka going from a handicap match multi-woman murder machine to barely getting a win against Emma), overexposure (I like Rousey, and I get getting your money's worth, but she wasn't a neccessary evil weekly).

And one thing they could do - they could really do - to fill up all that time? Have more matches. Yeah, not everything has to be backstage skits or multiple promos be they live or canned. Have more televised lower stakes matches and save some of those main events. 3 Hours of RAW (which, let's be honest, isn't 3 hours without all the commercial padding). There could be more matches with more guys who aren't doing shit but standing around in catering every week. Start planting seeds for them to become future stars later, and not hotshot them to the top of the card randomly one day because their ethnicity plays into travel plans. Your main event could be a tag team title match. You don't have to trot out the WHC and midcard champ. Now, granted, Brock Lesnar is at the polar end of that spectrum, but I don't really want to count him because there are other things at play with him in particular.

Like, remember when we all shit on Jinder going from jobber to "main event threat" in like 3 weeks? Now, imagine if they took the time and care to build him up from then to now with baby steps and feuds and storylines and reasons to care about seeing him succeed or fail. With better writing and progression, he wouldn't be pinning R-Truth on a plane runway for a comedy angle championship; people could be looking at him like they're looking at Drew McIntyre (mostly... this whole lackey shit is diminishing him at the moment, but you get my point) and he would be a "somebody" up near the higher end of the card- maybe even a WHC contender depending on how things turned out. But that's too much like work, so when the rocket up his ass failed spectacularly, that must have been because he didn't have "it" or somesuch, and now he's back to comedy angles and rare appearances.

Dammit. I had a point to sum this up with, and I got sidetracked by something else and forgot what I was going to write.
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Because they already ran him into the ground and established him as an also-ran. Goes back to the difference between main roster and NXT.

He's less important because they've established that he's less important. In NXT, his matches were a big deal, and demon appearances were "HOLY SHIT!" On main roster, he's been distilled down to "jobber unless wearing paint" Not saying keeping everyone off TV will solve all their problems. What I'm saying is they could use that time to make Finn Balor important again instead of consentrating on Brock Lesnar, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, and the second coming of the HHH Reign of Terror in Shane "Best In The Wooooooorld" McMahon all the time.

They have such a breadth of talent, but so few of them feel in any way important. They may even start out with so much hype and spotlight, and that fades so quickly due to indifference (any tag team callup), mishandling (Asuka going from a handicap match multi-woman murder machine to barely getting a win against Emma), overexposure (I like Rousey, and I get getting your money's worth, but she wasn't a neccessary evil weekly).

And one thing they could do - they could really do - to fill up all that time? Have more matches. Yeah, not everything has to be backstage skits or multiple promos be they live or canned. Have more televised lower stakes matches and save some of those main events. 3 Hours of RAW (which, let's be honest, isn't 3 hours without all the commercial padding). There could be more matches with more guys who aren't doing shit but standing around in catering every week. Start planting seeds for them to become future stars later, and not hotshot them to the top of the card randomly one day because their ethnicity plays into travel plans. Your main event could be a tag team title match. You don't have to trot out the WHC and midcard champ. Now, granted, Brock Lesnar is at the polar end of that spectrum, but I don't really want to count him because there are other things at play with him in particular.

Like, remember when we all shit on Jinder going from jobber to "main event threat" in like 3 weeks? Now, imagine if they took the time and care to build him up from then to now with baby steps and feuds and storylines and reasons to care about seeing him succeed or fail. With better writing and progression, he wouldn't be pinning R-Truth on a plane runway for a comedy angle championship; people could be looking at him like they're looking at Drew McIntyre (mostly... this whole lackey shit is diminishing him at the moment, but you get my point) and he would be a "somebody" up near the higher end of the card- maybe even a WHC contender depending on how things turned out. But that's too much like work, so when the rocket up his ass failed spectacularly, that must have been because he didn't have "it" or somesuch, and now he's back to comedy angles and rare appearances.

Dammit. I had a point to sum this up with, and I got sidetracked by something else and forgot what I was going to write.
I think there's truth in the statement that WWE and NXT are different animals, but I think NXT can afford to be a different animal. Balor got to be presented as special in NXT (to be honest, this is about the period I got bored with NXT and stopped watching the weeklies), but that's because he didn't need to be on each week wrestling. When he's part of a main roster presentation, sure, they could take more care with how they thread him through things, but they've also got 5 hours to fill and if he's not wrestling on a show (to keep that special) then you've got to fill that time with something else. This means that you've got the spotlight on something other than him, which means he's no longer going to be special. But if you put the spotlight on him all the time, then you're going to get sick of him anyway.

Now, that's not to say there aren't problems with how the present people on the main roster. There absolutely are. And these things might even change if Vince McMahon and Kevin Dunn are ousted. But you're still going to have this persisting problem of guys being on TV too much, because there's just simply too much TV.

And Triple H is going to get so fatigued if he gets the book and he tries to put such intricate care into 5 hours of television. He might divvy it up, but it's still a lot of commitment from viewers, who are supposed to care about all of it. When you realize that you don't need to watch all of it because it doesn't matter, that becomes the habit. This is why AEW is so smart coming along now. There is money in TV and WWE needs that money. They are going to be stretched out and exposing themselves for 3-5 years (or however long those deals are). They're going to be running too much content for a long time. Plus they're pricey. Those two things together are going to be where AEW can really hit them.
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Apparently Kenny Omega likes to discuss AEW business related stuff while playing Apex Legends. Also hinted he has used video games to help recruit potential talent for the company.

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“One of the things I would actually do is, if you want to talk business with me, learn Apex [Legends]. We’ll squad up, join a party and we’ll talk all the business you want while we play,” he said. “I may or may not have,” he said when asked about recruiting talents over games of Apex Legends. “And there may or may not be more recruits via Apex Legends or some sort of other video game means where we can have a party chat,” he said. “I’m not going to lie, there are times when I’m playing with people online, whether it be just random people or it be people I’ve just set up sessions with and, via how they act online with me, I can tell this guy would be a handful backstage. You’ll get a feeling for how they interact with people, how they multitask, how they handle pressure, if they’re willing to help you out in a jam. You get an indication of how people really are.”
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I'm going to just do the know if we are flying in or driving. Haven't been to a wrestling show since TNA ran some shows in a minor league ball park in Lexington so I'm pretty pumped.
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Just remember everyone, these photos were taken when it was very cold outside.
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They’d be crazy to have Moxley job right out of the gate to Joey Janela. I did have the thought the other day that Darby Allin upsetting Cody is a real possibility though. I hope it doesn’t happen... but something tells me it might.
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Old 06-28-2019, 10:24 AM   #1472
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Old 06-28-2019, 10:24 AM   #1473
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Old 06-28-2019, 10:40 AM   #1474
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Old 06-28-2019, 10:54 AM   #1476
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I guess it's probably "wednesday night DYNAMITE" cuz they're on TNT.

I don't hate the name as much as you do Dessy, but I'm definitely not in love with it.
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My issue is its too much of a play on Nitro. Set your own path. Hacky.
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Old 06-28-2019, 11:06 AM   #1478
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I don't disagree by any means. Also, the name doesn't really roll off the tongue.
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