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Old 12-15-2023, 02:24 AM   #15441
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Great video I just saw on Twitter of Tony Khan introducing Giannis Antetokounmpo.
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Old 12-15-2023, 02:27 AM   #15442
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Breaking news from CM Punk's reporter!

"The vibe we have been given is that AEW is in danger of not being renewed by WBD for TNT or TBS"

- Nick Hausman

Man. If this actually happens what a fall.
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Old 12-15-2023, 02:44 AM   #15443
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It wouldn’t surprise me if they’re dropped even if WBD doesn’t get Raw. They’ve done some disgusting shit lately and seem like an unprofessional outfit in general
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lol Sasha Banks/Mercedes Mone no longer expected to go to AEW.

Wonder if it's because she's going back to WWE or if it's just because AEW no longer feels comfortable with the big spending when these rumors of them potentially losing their TV deal are flaring up.
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So Kenny’s come down with diverticulitis. I don’t wish ill on anyone, but something about it struck me as karmic. It didn’t feel like a proportionate response from the universe re: the Punk stuff. His career being where it is and theirs being where theirs are does that. Then someone reminded me that Brock’s F5 is called “Diverticulitis” in AEW Fight Forever.
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lol Sasha Banks/Mercedes Mone no longer expected to go to AEW.

Wonder if it's because she's going back to WWE or if it's just because AEW no longer feels comfortable with the big spending when these rumors of them potentially losing their TV deal are flaring up.
I think it was probably a deal CM Punk had a hand in putting together. They’ve had friendly tweet exchanges in the past. She probably felt safer going to a company where a prominent figure said he wanted to rape her, who is now married to a bullying judoka with Punk there.

Plus, the company has just gotten a worse and worse image since they showed her in the crowd at Wembley.
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Tony Khan said that to be AEW is to be attacked at the Final Battle press conference. He said you can do 5 great shows in a row and people will say something negative. When has AEW done 5 great shows, let alone 5 in a row? He says he shuts all the “negativity” out now. He’s advocating for living in complete denial. He’s making everything sound like it’s good. That’s a delusional perspective to take.
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Oh, he also said they were #1 on cable Wednesday. That’s only in a certain demo that cable isn’t particularly apt at reaching, for ORIGINAL programming. He HAS to know that, right?
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To be fair, it should be his job to say positive things about the company so he is in the right to say they put on great shows, and brag about whatever #1 stat they can get.
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There's just gotta be the line between "public face staying positive to the public, while realizing things are not going well backstage" and "public face staying positive to the public, while also fooling himself that all is well"
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People will defend what Tony says and does as “promoting.” A good promoter increases business for what they are promoting though. When the “spin” comes across as transparent lies pushing reality back, it leaves a sour impression.

And you’re right that this public face can’t actually be an attempt to fool themselves.
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Sorry, didn’t mean that to sound like I’m arguing with you, Lock Jaw. I agree with your point. Tony just isn’t very good at it lol.
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People will defend what Tony says and does as “promoting.” A good promoter increases business for what they are promoting though. When the “spin” comes across as transparent lies pushing reality back, it leaves a sour impression.

And you’re right that this public face can’t actually be an attempt to fool themselves.
To be fair, again, to a lot of people out there it doesn't come across as "transparent lies" because they just don't know better or care to know better.

Not everyone can be as "educated" as The Noid.
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There's just gotta be the line between "public face staying positive to the public, while realizing things are not going well backstage" and "public face staying positive to the public, while also fooling himself that all is well"
He'd garner a lot more support if he was upfront. Say the product sucks and here's what we're going to do better. Dana White does it all the time- if the show was shit he says it (and looks visibility pissed) apologises to everyone and then transitions into what they're going to do/how they're going to make it up to the fans. All I hear in press conferences and see on Twitter from Tony is that the shows are "great" when they aren't. He comes across as ingenuous.
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Tony Khan said that to be AEW is to be attacked at the Final Battle press conference. He said you can do 5 great shows in a row and people will say something negative. When has AEW done 5 great shows, let alone 5 in a row? He says he shuts all the “negativity” out now. He’s advocating for living in complete denial. He’s making everything sound like it’s good. That’s a delusional perspective to take.
He is an idiot. AEW gets attacked no matter what!!!!!

Maybe if his company directive from day 1 wasnt to attack WWE, people wouldnt come at him.
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To be fair, again, to a lot of people out there it doesn't come across as "transparent lies" because they just don't know better or care to know better.

Not everyone can be as "educated" as The Noid.
I don’t think those people are paying attention to his press conferences or ROH in general. Everyone knows AEW has got its shit going on. Lying to people isn’t going to help. It fuels the “negativity” (honesty). Promoting isn’t telling people “This ice-cream will give you an orgasm and make you rich.” You need to be aware of what you are actually delivering to people.

I don’t expect him to say “AEW sucks.” But stop trying to lie your way out of the shit.
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He is an idiot. AEW gets attacked no matter what!!!!!

Maybe if his company directive from day 1 wasnt to attack WWE, people wouldnt come at him.
Making yourself “the other” is always risky when the original actually gains approval. When your counterculture you become reliant on culture. He should have just focused on his own shop.
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It’s also a millionaire throwing a pity party for themselves. And he basically told people he’s not going to listen to the fans unless they blow his product.

He’s becoming Vince at a rapid rate.
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Disco Inferno posted something along the lines of “Like the shows need a reset.” Tony responded with something along the lines of “That you’re an irrelevant parasite unites the wrestling community.”

Guy’s losing it before our eyes.
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in fairness, Disco is a parasite.
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Dale being an irrelevant parasite is the one thing that unites the TPWW community.
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I dunno. I enjoy Disco Inferno’s theme song more than I have anything AEW has ever produced.
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Disco was more over as a lower midcard with a goofy gimmick than all of the "Workrate" Gods of today.
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I dunno. I enjoy Disco Inferno’s theme song more than I have anything AEW has ever produced.
That's a lie. Julia Hart's ascension from being a blonde associated with a tag team to being the real leader of The House of Black, her theme song, and her overall appearance is way better than anything Disco has ever done.
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Old 12-20-2023, 09:06 AM   #15467
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Disco was more over as a lower midcard with a goofy gimmick than all of the "Workrate" Gods of today.
He really wasn't. Fuck off with this lol.

I mean I got a kick out of him but he was nothing. A never was. I couldn't give a shit about the likes of Omega and the Bucks or whatever, but Disco's input means nothing. He's a jackass with worthless, Bischoff-Russo-level takes.
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Old 12-20-2023, 09:49 AM   #15468
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He was a decent TV Champion.
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Old 12-20-2023, 10:59 AM   #15469
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Disco Inferno was absolutely a lower card jobber, but he is clearly relevant if idiot Tiny Khan cares that much about his comment.
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Old 12-21-2023, 09:26 AM   #15470
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Relevance and worth aren't the same. Disco's relevant because he's on a podcast that panders to the lowest common denominator. So he generates buzz (unfortunately). It doesn't mean his opinion is any less worthless.
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Old 12-21-2023, 09:26 AM   #15471
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Disco reminds me of Destor if Destor didn't ever read.
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Old 12-21-2023, 10:34 AM   #15472
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He really wasn't. Fuck off with this lol.

I mean I got a kick out of him but he was nothing. A never was. I couldn't give a shit about the likes of Omega and the Bucks or whatever, but Disco's input means nothing. He's a jackass with worthless, Bischoff-Russo-level takes.
Here is the funny part: your second paragraph is absolutely the truth. But it doesn't invalidate my point. That is more of an indictment of the workrate clowns.
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Disco was a featured part of wrestling back when way more people cared about wrestling, and having a spot in general meant more. I think of him like an X-Pac (not in terms of ring skills, but just for…being there).
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Old 12-22-2023, 08:02 AM   #15474
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If Disco Inferno was signing autographs in the 90s as opposed to The Bucks signing autographs now…I think Disco might have the longer line.
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Old 12-22-2023, 08:15 AM   #15475
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Yeah he may have been a low midcarder match wise, but I have a lot of memories of Disco. He was on like every episode of WCW TV it seemed. Featured in several big storylines. He was basically the WCW equivalent of R-Truth in WWE. Or a lower tier Miz maybe considering he was the cocky asshole kinda guy they used to put people over on their way up. Also got over a little as a face and could instantly turn heel and get the crowd to boo him. Everyone was still discoing when his music hit though lol.
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lol X Pac was way more meaningful than Disco. Their names shouldn't be uttered in the same sentence.
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Disco also killed nWo 2002, huge impact on the industry.
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lol X Pac was way more meaningful than Disco. Their names shouldn't be uttered in the same sentence.
Way more is a bit of a stretch.
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Old 12-23-2023, 09:13 AM   #15479
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Way more is a bit of a stretch.
Dude--Disco never did fuckall. X-Pac had a hell of a career.

First, go back to before he was in the WWF when he was lighting the indies on fire with Jerry Lynn as Lightning Kid.

Then there's how he came in the fed. The angle with Razor was compelling television. During that run, he had one of the best Raw main events in history with Bret Hart.

Fast forward to him being Sixx. Not the biggest run in history, but his shift the WCW was another huge blow to the WWF.

Then, when he came back to the WWF as X Pac, it was a HUGE moment. I remember him coming out and cutting his cut the mustard promo on Hogan. It was huge.

He then proceeded to be one of the most featured guys on TV until around 2000. He was super over and even had a prominent odd couple tag team with Kane. After that, yes, he fell off. X Pac heat and all that. He didn't evolve and got way too into the meth, and that was it.

Disco did nothing. He danced and wasn't featured. Nothing he ever did made an impact.
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