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Old 08-07-2024, 06:43 AM   #16001
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189k viewers for Collision.
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Old 08-07-2024, 10:30 AM   #16002
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I haven’t engaged with the whole story, but I did hear something about MJF punching a wall. I think we can agree on one thing:

This is all CM Punk’s fault.

I heard Bret say it's Goldbergs fault
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Old 08-07-2024, 01:55 PM   #16003
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Thats the most reliable piece of information ever posted on this flrum
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Old 08-07-2024, 04:37 PM   #16004
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I heard Bret say it's Goldbergs fault
Goldberg has an airtight alibi. He has been whinging online for the past 6 months.
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Old 08-10-2024, 06:37 AM   #16005
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It’s CM Punk’s fault that WBD is billions of dollars in debt.
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Old 09-09-2024, 06:58 AM   #16006
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And we’re back again. Hope everyone has been enjoying seeing people stab each other with needles.
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Old 09-09-2024, 09:04 AM   #16007
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AEW is a super Indy with a TV deal basically.
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Old 09-10-2024, 02:25 AM   #16008
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Renewal is going to be finalized any day now. Current contract was 175mil for 4 years. Last i heard the new deal could be around 110mil per year for 5 years. Not following it super close so that might not be whats coming out now. Pretty insane bump obviously if true.

Suttlebutt is theyre trying to leverage another station. Dunno if theyre wanting more or to be on mutliple networks. Eitherway its dumb. Sign the contract before they realize theyre overspending.
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Old 09-10-2024, 05:00 AM   #16009
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And we’re back again. Hope everyone has been enjoying seeing people stab each other with needles.
Yes.

Everyone is basically really stupid and only shocked by novelty. People got numb to thumbtacks - hundreds of thick spikes going into people's bodies which they're completely fine with, and decided to get scandalised by a needle, a thing designed to go through skin.

Wrestling is a succession of novel and interesting spectacles, and it seems the audience today has decided to be as aggressively stupid about it as they can. As if it's their job. There are some people that do have that as a job, and other people imitate them, for free.
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Old 09-12-2024, 04:20 PM   #16010
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The sad thing with the site being down is that we missed 29 confirmed new TV deal announcements.
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Old 09-12-2024, 04:27 PM   #16011
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Ask yourself: Why would Tony Khan brag about a deal that hasn’t been done yet.
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Old 09-12-2024, 05:07 PM   #16012
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Its getting renewed. That's certain
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Old 09-12-2024, 11:30 PM   #16013
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Bryan vs Nigel on national television. 2007 me used to dream for times like this.
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Old 09-12-2024, 11:45 PM   #16014
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Old 09-13-2024, 12:04 AM   #16015
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That was peak wrestling though. I think it was a little into the Morishima run that Gabe Sapolski eneded his RoH run but damn it if it wasnt absolute lightening in a bottle up until then. Pure champ Nigel era was tops.
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Old 09-13-2024, 12:41 PM   #16016
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I believe Warner Bros Discovers is going to give a company that has lost 40% of their viewers a 300% rights increase solely because... OF COURSE a company that lost $9.1 BILLION last quarter would grossly overpay for a TV show that has no need to ever turn a profit. You don't lose $9.1 BILLION without making sound business decisions like that!
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Old 09-13-2024, 12:41 PM   #16017
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Old 09-13-2024, 12:42 PM   #16018
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haven't watched AEW in a few weeks but they're getting renewed so it looks like they don't need me
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Old 09-14-2024, 07:59 AM   #16019
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AEW overdelivered, Smackdown underdelivered. If you can't understand the fundamentals of business, you must be stupid and do things like post on a forum that doesn't even fucking work
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Old 09-14-2024, 08:53 AM   #16020
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Old 09-15-2024, 12:12 PM   #16021
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Is it certain? Tony Khan says that. Dave Meltzer says that. Andrew Zarian says that. Take a step back and look at things from outside the wrestling nerd bubble.

AEW probably generates something like $120 million in advertising revenue. With a generous split so WBD feels secure in the decision, you’re looking at the entire AEW package being bought for $25 million. At what point does that become throwing money down a well?

Now you’re hearing rumors of Fox networks getting involved. The thing is, that isn’t going to leverage a larger deal, because Fox Sports 1 would get, what? About 300k for Dynamite? Is Tony walking into WBD offices bragging about a $15 million per year offer from Fox Sports?

All the basic cable players would have their schedules worked out. Paramount isn’t likely waiting on the line for a show that would need to be picked up and marketed for January. There’s no one else. And at what point do you just accept that maybe AEW is just undesirable content?

They’re losing their TV deals internationally. It’d only be shocking to wrestling fans because the propaganda patrol has told you how smart and sexy Tony Khan is. And everyone kind of gets pressured into saying “well of course they’re getting renewed” because they’re too scared to be wrong.

I think it wound be more shocking to see AEW actually pull off a successful deal than stumble over their own feet at this point. I’m calling Triller.

Nothing is stopping Tony from announcing something for Rampage, Collision or ROH. He could very easily announce a deal for Collision while keeping WBD on the line. But the problem is that someone would actually want it.

Tony failing to get anything for ROH was the tip off that there just aren’t people out there who want it, but people slept on that because the wrestling media is terrible.
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Old 09-15-2024, 12:14 PM   #16022
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Tl;dr: I’ll believe a deal when I see it.
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Old 09-15-2024, 12:19 PM   #16023
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By the way, Kathleen Finch, the head of TBS and TNT has literally announced her retirement without an AEW deal being made. And you’ve got Tony going on TV bragging about how much they love him.

If I was TNA, I’d be calling WBD and offering to do better wrestling on a slightly smaller scale for a much lower price. If you’re WBD, which deal would you make? Stick with the sinking ship or go with the guys with a WWE relationship? One’s got less bodily fluid consumption these days too.
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Old 09-15-2024, 12:20 PM   #16024
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Yeah its certain. Its so certain its not worth talking about. I know you want them to fail, and they will in time, but that day isnt today.
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Old 09-15-2024, 12:46 PM   #16025
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If a deal was actually certain, something would have been announced a year ago. Nothing is certain when you’re still negotiating in Q4 2024 when your deal expires in Q4 2024. And you definitely don’t go on national television and brag about a deal that hasn’t been made. Even if AEW were healthy, the shape of WBD alone should make a reasonable person question. Tony’s bravado seems to imply he’s got nothing.

I think the day they failed has actually passed, but the wrestling media just refused to call it.
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Old 09-15-2024, 02:43 PM   #16026
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We’re hearing that AEW is having talks with Fox Sports. If they extend a deal, it’s not going to be a TBS-sized one because of the network scope. But if he’s having talks with Fox Sports no then what sort of leverage could he possibly have.

The big offers would come from platforms where the TBS numbers could be reasonably sustained. USA, Paramount, your major streaming services. The window has probably closed for all of them now lol. That’s why you’re hearing about the baby Fox networks.

If AEW generated $120 million a year in ad revenue, there would be a logical pathway forward from that. $25 million or whatever. But chances are it does worse than that, hence why WBD was out $9.1 billion or whatever. Whoopsies.

If AEW generated significant ad revenue, those numbers would have someone knocking at their door trying to put AEW on their networks. A FS1 would take a Rampage for $10 million or whatever. Then you’ve at least got something on. But there’s literally nothing except FS1 gossip and promises that everything is going fine.
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Old 09-15-2024, 03:17 PM   #16027
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Lol at several tldr posts by Noid not believing a deal will/is done

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Old 09-15-2024, 05:11 PM   #16028
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He has AEW derangement syndrome. He cant connect with any reality where its not the worst scenrio every time. Its silly and not worth engaging with. There's zero objectivity.
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It’s not always the worst scenario possible. I can see them getting Triller.
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Old 09-15-2024, 05:51 PM   #16030
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Lol at several tldr posts by Noid not believing a deal will/is done

This is what we're missing on the other boards

Quality entertainment
What makes you think a deal is done?
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Old 09-16-2024, 07:35 PM   #16031
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Tl;dr: I’ll believe a deal when I see it.
Please let me know how to keep up with your thoughts if the forum is down
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Old 09-16-2024, 10:21 PM   #16032
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What’s going on here boys?

I see a poster that never posts lambasting a poster that most definitely posts about posting when the forum barely works.

Is that what we’re doing boys? Insulting ourselves now?

Rogerer you shut your face you stupid tit. I see what you’re up to and I will not stand for it. Noid, beat feet. I have your back.

Let the line be drawn.

Noid is not for outsiders to toy with.
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Old 09-16-2024, 10:26 PM   #16033
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Rog you can come back when you have enough self respect to acknowledge that you are an obese forty five year old who can’t get a proper erection because he has wanked his life away.

Alternatively you can apologise to Noid for being Irish.

It’s six of one and half of whatever your smelly old wife makes on the fish market selling her skate.
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Old 09-18-2024, 09:41 AM   #16034
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It’s kind of crazy how far he’s fallen off with almost everyone. He could no wrong for a couple of decades there.

Remember when he said he was getting fat to be a better heel in Japan? I think he’s been booked there once since then, if that lol.
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Old 09-19-2024, 05:54 PM   #16036
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So you want to turn Moxley heel on Bryan, right? Why wouldn’t you wait to do that until Bryan had a schedule cleared of opponents? Shouldn’t that have happened, say, at Grand Slam?

Mox and Darby could wrestle for a title shot. Mox can be weird on the side around Bryan or something. Mix can beat Darby then turn heel after Bryan finishes with Nigel — who could have actually won the Wembley gauntlet. Then you can have Darby show up and stake his claim as an ally to Bryan.

Then you can go into WrestleDream with Bryan vs. Mox, Darby vs. PAC, Nigel vs. Claudio…that sort of thing. Instead you’re going to either step on Mox’s heat or have Darby fail to defend his hometown title shot and have Bryan/Nigel happen without any focus whatsoever.

And why does Bryan need to be champ for any of this? I’m not a fan of the guys, but if Hangman Page and Swerve Strickland are going to be headlining All Out, why not just make it a title match? Swerve beats Bryan without the stip. Bryan has at least shown weakness to entice the Mox heel turn.
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Miro has requested his release from AEW. The phrase “it’s about fucking time” comes to mind. He has been terribly misused there. The problem is, if Tony sets a precedent with him, how many other wrestlers are going to ask for their release?
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AEW’s new media deal has Dynamite and Collision staying in place, Rampage dropped and their content basically being a driver off cable to streaming. Financials were not discussed. Sources say close to $150 million for all aspects of the deal, which even Meltzer was saying wasn’t good. But it may not even be that high.

So they’re basically being whored out. It may not even make AEW profitable. The best thing for AEW would have been for it to get knocked off so changes could actually be made. This deal is likely to see continued erosion on each side of the aisle.
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The deal that everyone knew was an inevitably except one person has finally been closed. Now we can move on from if it will happen to why its the worse trade deal in the history of trade deals.
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