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Old 09-07-2015, 05:19 PM   #19001
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It should be Dolph and Rusev, Bros before....Divas
I'm in. Just like when Summer Rae and Layla decided to stop feuding over Fandango and join forces against him. Except with men.
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or they could just acknowledge that she hurt herself training in the ring to kick Summer's ass.....
Feel like admitting you got hurt trying to train to fight wouldn't exactly create a exciting comeback story.
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Old 09-07-2015, 07:11 PM   #19003
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Old 09-07-2015, 08:17 PM   #19004
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Old 09-07-2015, 08:20 PM   #19005
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According to the dirtsheets, WWE considering dropping the BOinspirational gimmick in favor of something new for Bo Dallas.

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Old 09-07-2015, 08:21 PM   #19006
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Old 09-07-2015, 08:47 PM   #19007
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WWE has another Monday Night War themed dvd arriving soon. One of the biggest features to this one is new Eric Bischoff related stuff instead of WWE just reusing the same old interviews from the early to mid 2000s.

New stuff is mostly him reacting to the things said about him on the first Monday Night War dvd and Network series.
Man, Eric Bischoff finally aged.
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Old 09-07-2015, 08:51 PM   #19008
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I've been listening to Kevin Sullivan's podcast about booking Nitro with MSL on MLW Radio. Bischoff saying that Hogan never used his creative control is either a lie or simply referencing him actually officially overriding something through proper channels, because Sullivan makes it sound like so much in WCW was Hogan's idea.
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Old 09-07-2015, 08:53 PM   #19009
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Old 09-07-2015, 08:54 PM   #19010
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Old 09-07-2015, 08:56 PM   #19011
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Old 09-07-2015, 09:02 PM   #19012
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Old 09-07-2015, 10:48 PM   #19013
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Old 09-08-2015, 08:20 AM   #19014
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I've been listening to Kevin Sullivan's podcast about booking Nitro with MSL on MLW Radio. Bischoff saying that Hogan never used his creative control is either a lie or simply referencing him actually officially overriding something through proper channels, because Sullivan makes it sound like so much in WCW was Hogan's idea.
I've not listened to that one, but I did watch the WCW Timeline with Sullivan. The way he makes it sound there is that he didn't often have to specifically have to pull the creative control card, but they went along with Hogans ideas anyway to keep them happy.
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Old 09-08-2015, 09:40 AM   #19015
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According to the dirtsheets, WWE considering dropping the BOinspirational gimmick in favor of something new for Bo Dallas.
Well...that will certainly prove to be devastating news to Bill Eaver's brother, Bowl.
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Old 09-08-2015, 03:59 PM   #19016
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Old 09-08-2015, 04:30 PM   #19017
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Feel like admitting you got hurt trying to train to fight wouldn't exactly create a exciting comeback story.
"sports entertainment is dangerous. I know the dangers I am getting into. I train hard in order to get results. Accidents happens and I got hurt training, but the next time someone gets hurt in the ring it will not be me, it will be Summer at "Insert PPV Title here"
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Old 09-08-2015, 04:33 PM   #19018
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Just learned Sting's gonna fight Rollins for the title.

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And the rumors WOULD have to start flying within a few weeks of Bayley's title win, too.
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I forgot how to make it start from a particular point, so starting at .38 is what I hear in my head seeing this, and Sting going "SEE, BATSY, I THINK OF EVERYTHING! HAHAHAHAHAH!"
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I'll try to explain it mathematically for you. Let's attribute values to these wrestlers. Triple H has 1300 points. That's 100 points for every World Title he's won in the WWE. Seth Rollins is therefore on 100 points. Sting has won World Titles, but not in the WWE, so let's include the International World Title and call him a 9-time champ and give him 75% of those 900 points, bringing him to 675. Let's say that a win is worth 10% of what your opponent is worth. If Sting beats Triple H at WrestleMania, his score jumps to 805 points. It's arguable that you could even increase this because of WrestleMania season, but let's call it all even. Triple H beating Sting increases his worth to 1368 points. Now, let's say that Seth Rollins beats Sting AND Triple H in the scenario that we actually have in real-life. He beats Sting for 68 points and he beats Triple H for 137. That's a total of 205 points. But if he beats Sting AND Triple H after Sting beats Triple H? That's 81 points from Sting and 130 from Triple H. That's 211 points -- a whole six points difference. But there you go -- Sting beating Triple H is far more important to increasing Sting's stock than increasing Triple H's.
Was this meant to be comedy?

You brought up the whole thing about "some people dont like money". As I said, the people who say that are the guys who write newsletters and the people who read them. Obviously WWE is a tad more invested in profits than you or I are. Since Vince built his company to be worth well over a billion dollars, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on all booking calls. Doesnt mean he's right 100% of the time, just means he's better than anyone else, so I'll trust him.

For me it comes to down to this - which feud do I think can draw more money in the long term for WWE A) Rollins vs HHH or B) Rollins vs Sting. The answer to me, and really should be to anyone who has watched wrestling is the HHH vs Rollins is the bigger money match. If thats the case, then you dont have your two money players lose to B level guys. You can use the B level guys for B level PPVs and to help enhance the A level guys. But you dont sacrifice any of the A level players to make the B level guys look good. Unless you think you can elevate said B player to A, but in this case, Sting is what he is. He's not moving up or down the card.

The only way your argument holds water is if you think Sting should go over Seth, and then go on a run with the title. To do what you talked about - maximize Sting DVD sales, tshirts, those dumb masks, bring back the now 68 year old dudes who used to watch WCW back in the early 90s. But I think we both know it would be absurd to bastardize the title by putting it on Sting at this point. So were back to sacrificing the bigger money program to sell more wolf tickets with Sting as a credible title challenger.
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Was this meant to be comedy?
Yeah, it was a little bit. It was a ridiculously worded way to highlight how simple this is.

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You brought up the whole thing about "some people dont like money". As I said, the people who say that are the guys who write newsletters and the people who read them.
And a whole bunch of other people? I've actually never read that phrase in a newsletter. Don't get your point here.

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Obviously WWE is a tad more invested in profits than you or I are. Since Vince built his company to be worth well over a billion dollars, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on all booking calls. Doesnt mean he's right 100% of the time, just means he's better than anyone else, so I'll trust him.
This is an argument from authority. It's cute, but it's not a logical way to think. After all, you can point to many silly business ventures the WWE has been involved in over the years. Now, Vince McMahon is objectively a success story. The idea of my posts wasn't to flame him. But there has been a lot of money left on the table when it comes to certain things in the WWE's history -- and certain talent has been chased off and passed on for the sake of company ego. Can you really debate this?

And all you need to do is look at the growth NXT is experiencing, and the general stir about that product to see that the creative demand might not always be for the WWE's main product.

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For me it comes to down to this - which feud do I think can draw more money in the long term for WWE A) Rollins vs HHH or B) Rollins vs Sting. The answer to me, and really should be to anyone who has watched wrestling is the HHH vs Rollins is the bigger money match. If thats the case, then you dont have your two money players lose to B level guys. You can use the B level guys for B level PPVs and to help enhance the A level guys. But you dont sacrifice any of the A level players to make the B level guys look good. Unless you think you can elevate said B player to A, but in this case, Sting is what he is. He's not moving up or down the card.
Actually, I disagree. Triple H vs. Rollins doesn't have a dynamic I particularly enjoy. I'd rather see Triple H vs. Dean Ambrose. The personalities between Triple H and Rollins have been presented as too similar, and there isn't a common goal for them to fight for with Triple H being basically retired. Sting at least represents an ideological rebuttal to the choices Rollins has made to be on top.

There are many ways to get to your desired destination, and I actually see what you are trying to get around to. The only thing is that they are promoting Rollins vs. Sting. With Sting's record being 0-1, this is not only heatless, but it doesn't make sense.

And we come back to this "Sting is a B-level guy" bullshit. If he's a B-level guy, don't bring him in. The reason you brought him in was because he's worth some return. You said it yourself -- he's there to get people to tune into the Network. Great job making it absolutely pointless by making one of the biggest A-players in history a "B-level guy." Against Seth Rollins. Who has also been presented as B-level guy. And is presented as a B-level guy at the moment. Don't believe me? We've heard him called a "joke" and told he's not on Triple H's level. By faces. By heels. This isn't an underdog story.

Also, Triple H vs. Seth Rollins is not going to be based on rankings. Triple H is not an active full-time wrestler. It's going to be based on heat if it's going to work. The idea of Triple H winning the Royal Rumble and challenging Seth Rollins for the title at WrestleMania doesn't seem like an appealing one -- but that's just this amateur's opinion, right?

If Sting beat Triple H, then it gives Triple H a reason to have a personal gripe with Rollins and turn on him. It also means that you can get more interest out of Sting matches in the future. If Sting loses to Rollins cleanly (as he should at this point), what can you mine out of this. You have shut down a well in order to build a mound of dirt. Congratulations.

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The only way your argument holds water is if you think Sting should go over Seth, and then go on a run with the title. To do what you talked about - maximize Sting DVD sales, tshirts, those dumb masks, bring back the now 68 year old dudes who used to watch WCW back in the early 90s. But I think we both know it would be absurd to bastardize the title by putting it on Sting at this point. So were back to sacrificing the bigger money program to sell more wolf tickets with Sting as a credible title challenger.
What? No. This just... no.

Building challengers for titles is apparently a shitty idea? You just shot yourself in the foot to prove you have a gun. I'm also going to again assert that Rollins vs. Triple H -- Battle of the Carpenters -- might not actually be the huge money draw your argument depends on it being.
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AND, if it were a draw, it still doesn't mean that having your incoming babyface fucking job in a nonsensical match at WrestleMania to your semi-retired heel is a great fucking idea.

If you didn't want your semi-retired heel to job? Don't book the fucking match! Can't believe how fucking dumb this shit is getting. I'm done with this. Noider out.
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Bryan Alvarez noted of F4Wonline.com noted this week that Bo Dallas is in line for a new gimmick. No other details are available yet but Bo could be receiving a character change soon. No word yet if this is referring to the slight changes we saw to Bo's character on last Thursday's WWE SmackDown. After debuting a new finisher and attacking R-Truth following their match, Bo cut a promo and said he's tried to help inspire people for so long but they've turned him into a joke. He thought what he did to Truth was "really funny" and said he Bo-lieves he will be a lot more "humorous" in the future.
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F4Wonline.com notes that there was a negative internal WWE reaction to a wrestler that asked Twitter followers for a link to an illegal stream of Saturday's UFC pay-per-view. This was looked down upon not because it's UFC, but because WWE is in the same business and they feel talents should be smart enough not to publicly ask for an illegal stream, which also hurts WWE's business. For what it's worth, it was noted that a personal message asking someone for an illegal stream wouldn't hurt anyone but asking for everyone to see on social media is very different. In an update, apparently the wrestlers seen doing this were from the indies and one works for Lucha Underground but they were not named. It was noted to Bryan Alvarez by a WWE source that the wrestlers likely "lost any chance" to ever be noticed by WWE.
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Sting appeared on Jim Ross’ podcast The Ross Report recently to talk about his career winding down.

During the conversation Jim Ross said that there was a very short list of names that he’d want to come back to call their last match. He told Sting that his name was on the list. Sting let him know that he felt the same way.

“The feeling is mutual,” Sting said. “If I could have anyone on the face of this Earth to call my last match, it would be Jim Ross. If I get my way, if I get what I want, that’s what’s going to happen.”

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“You can’t say ‘the young kid from Venice Beach’ anymore, though. You’ll have to be more creative,” Sting joked.
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STAMFORD, Conn., September 8, 2015 – WWE (NYSE: WWE) announced today the signing of international superstar Kanako Urai, aka Kana, to the NXT® division. Kana will officially report to the WWE Performance Center in Orlando, Florida in late September.

Over the course of her 11-year career, Kana has become one of the most exciting women ever to compete in Japan. She has appeared in many organizations throughout the country and has held multiple championships. Last month, Kana made a surprise appearance at NXT Takeover: Brooklyn, sitting in the audience ringside next to WWE Hall of Famer “Nature Boy” Ric Flair®.

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A waiter at Supano’s told TMZ that the Divas were grabbing a drink late Sunday night when a regular customer came in and began harassing them by taking pictures and videos. Paige and Alicia reportedly confronted her before “all hell broke lose” and drinks were thrown by both sides.

Employees jumped in and stopped the fight and they were all forced to leave the venue
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Most of the questions at the Q&A were standard, like Why did you start wrestling? Who did you look up to as a kid? etc, but here's some different ones. They didn';t let you take videos.

She wants to get put through a table before she retires. ... She sounded really enthusiastic about this, so I hope it happens.
She prefers playing a heel over a face, because "being the bad guy is so much more fun."
If there's a divas tag division, she wants to tag with Bayley, Emma, Sasha, or AJ as partners.
She put over Sasha as the person she thinks will stand out the most in the Divas Revolution.
Working with AJ was really fun. They're still good friends and text.
She really loved working with Summer Rae in NXT; "she's a perfect bitchy heel." Her feud with Summer there is one of her favorites.
She told a story recalling the night she wrestled in a rosebud costume on RAW. "It was live. I had to run down the hallway in that towel, totally naked underneath, then change into the costume, and Vince was yelling at the producers and cameramen like, 'If that towel falls down, you're all fired!'"
She owns her own action figure. She still thinks it's surreal that she has merch.
She thinks Emma is super underrated, says she's much better than "that stupid dancing gimmick," and wants people to trend #GiveEmmaAChance.
Tough Enough was fun, she looks forward to seeing Sara Lee in a year or so. She doesn't know what the current plans are for the show going forward ... She's glad Josh won.
Advice for becoming a wrestler: save your money, work hard, be patient, humble, and hungry.
The host for her Q&A let us know that the VIP tickets for Paige sold the most for the celebrities at the event, so we cheered. Paige outdraws Reigns? lol

Edit: I remembered a couple other questions.A fan said they should do an all-diva Pay-per-view, and she said that was a great idea, and the girls would love to do it. Also, she thinks Charlotte will beat Nikki at Night of Champs ...

Just got back from Wizard World and I also attended the Q&A on a whim. Mostly just wanted to sit down for a while, but I like Paige so it was a plus. Funniest/worst part to me was how she mentioned all the creeper fans she gets commenting on her social media and how they act around her in public. VERY next question this poor bastard goes up and says "Hi, Paige. Did you like the rose I gave you?" ...cringe-worthy.
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Yesterday we posted Lana's statement on her training injury and comments about how she wanted to make the WWE fans proud. She said, "Every since I have debuted in @wwe I have continued to go to @wwenxt & come hours early before live events to train & learn how to fight." Bryan Alvarez noted yesterday that a WWE source contacted him and said Lana hasn't been seen at the WWE Performance Center in "forever." If she and Rusev are still together offscreen, they live in Nashville. It's also worth noting that we rarely, if ever, hear about Lana being at a NXT live event these days. It is possible that Lana was just working a "training storyline" but we don't know for sure.
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“First, I met with Linda McMahon, and she was doing the business day-to-day. I had a nice meeting with Linda, and she said, well, Vince would like to see you in one of the studios. So, I went into the studio and here’s Vince, you know, not quite as big as he is now, but still a big intimidating figure, and he threw me a bottle of water and he said: ‘Sell it to me.’

So, I did. I mean, I can talk about anything. I said, ‘This is the most unbelievable water. It’s fresh, it will soothe you, you can pour it on your feet if you’re in the desert. Now, if you’re in the desert, you might want to read it.’ So, I went through this whole thing and it’s crazy, and he goes, ‘That’s unbelievable! Let’s try this,’ and that’s how it started.”

“During the interview process, I thought Vince had left the building, so I went to use the bathroom… I turned my mic off, I went into the bathroom and I was going to the bathroom, and there was a fellow in one of the stalls, who had clearly been doing some work, and it was not a pleasant odor. So I, being me, said, ‘Hey, how about a courtesy flush!’ and I hear this laugh… and it was Vince.

So I said, ‘Well, I didn’t get this job,’ and he said, ‘That’s hysterical! Now I’ve got to hire you!'”
Wacky Vince story from back in the day.


Some other sheet news includes:
  • GFW had to drop the Texas set of shows later this month due to schedule issues which led to a lot of backlash due to how poorly they handled refunds.
  • Tough Enough's Amanda revealed she signed a developmental deal with the WWE while also teasing wanting to be on Total Divas in the future. https://instagram.com/p/7YiCIAmzfK/
  • Kurt Angle announced he will be taking a break from wrestling once his current deal with TNA is done by the end of January 2016. Won't bother contacting the WWE once his break is over.
  • In a "WWE Did You Know" type fact, today marks the 7 year anniversary of Bryan Kendrick winning the WWE title. https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...test_thing_to/
  • During a recent Stone Cold podcast episode, Austin praised both Sasha Banks and her "Boss" gimmick as one of the best things in the WWE at the moment. Was part of the NXT Takeover Brooklyn review he had with guest Wade Keller.
  • WWE is currently rumored to want to sign Jeff Hardy once his current deal with TNA expires.
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They want to sign Jeff Hardy but don't wanna sign Kurt fucking Angle?
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Old 09-08-2015, 10:56 PM   #19027
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Tell me about it, brutha.

Tell Ric Flair and Stone Cold Steve Austin that you are more nuanced than them.

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Old 09-08-2015, 11:22 PM   #19031
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The WWE should bring back The Hardys, but then have them lose to The New Age Outlaws. But then they should get a title shot against The New Day, which they should also lose. But the money is in The New Age Outlaws vs. The New Day anyway, because The New Day won't act like faces until The New Age Outlaws punk them out.

What do we do with The Hardys after that? Oh, fuck!
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Old 09-08-2015, 11:23 PM   #19033
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It won't be nearly as high-ranking an achievement as training Eva Marie to be a good wrestler, if he manages that.
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She is already a great wrestler
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When Ambrose stole the WWE Title belt from Seth Rollins, do you think he kayfabe took it with him like he would if he were actually the champion? Sort of a symbolic title run?
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Not even Matt Hardy wants Matt Hardy.
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I used to love Matt Hardy. I hope he isn't actually insane. With the dude being 40 now, maybe he should think about tweaking his look. A serious Hardy could still be an asset to a company somewhere.
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Not at 40. His time is up. He could still be a viable asset but changing his character won't do much for him now, I think.
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Partial match listing for the upcoming Owen Hart dvd. According to WrestlingDVDNetwork, there is going to be around 15+ matches altogether.

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* Blue Blazer vs. Mr. Perfect - Meadowlands • May 8, 1989
* Owen Hart vs. Mark Kyle - World Championship Wrestling • March 16, 1991
* WWE Intercontinental Championship Match: Owen Hart vs. Shawn Michaels Wrestling Spotlight • August 28, 1993
* Exhibition Match: Owen Hart vs. Nick Barberri - WrestleMania XI Public Workout; Times Square, NYC • March 28, 1995
* North American Heavyweight Championship Match: Owen Hart vs. Makhin Singh - Stampede Wrestling • May 1988
* Owen Hart vs. Bret Hart - WrestleMania X • March 20, 1994
* King of the Ring Finals: Owen Hart vs. Razor Ramon - King of the Ring • June 19, 1994
* Lumberjack Match for the WWE Championship: Owen Hart vs. Bret Hart - Portland, ME • August 17, 1994
* WWE Tag Team Championship Match: Owen Hart & Yokozuna vs. The Allied Powers - In Your House • July 23, 1995
* # 1 Contender for the WWE Championship: Owen Hart vs. Shawn Michaels - In Your House • February 18, 1996
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