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Old 10-14-2010, 06:23 AM   #1961
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Wish Raimi was doing Spidey 4.
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Old 10-14-2010, 08:19 AM   #1962
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True, but at least the last Spiderman Raimi did was disappointing. Not that it was really his fault either, but the fact that it was flawed makes it a little bit easier to accept that they're starting over clean.
I still think they should have let him do Spidey 4. Him and his take deserved another try. I'm sure it would have taken things back to basics.
I'm actually warming up to the new Spidey based on some of the casting. I still think it's too soon but that isn't going to make me root against it. I hope it's great. Though I do wish they'd explore some new territory. Going back to the origin story seems a bit pointless now. They can start fresh without doing that again.

In the case of X-Men, Singer never failed. A damn shame he didn't continue. They should have at least been more conservative in their treatment of the story and characters so there was a possible future of him returning, or any future for that matter.

Oh well on both accounts, I guess.
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Old 10-14-2010, 11:53 PM   #1963
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Rhys Ifans playing Curt Connors/The Lizard apparently.
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I'm glad they're finally going to do Lizard. Since it's going to start with Spidey's days as a student I think it's a fine choice.
It's a shame though because they had built Curt Connors up so well in the Spider-Man films. It would have been great when Raimi did it in part 4.

I'd still like to see them go a different route with villains in this series though. Does Sony have the rights to Kingpin, or does Fox have him locked up with Daredevil?
I'd love to see Kingpin established as a major crime lord/villain in Spider-Man. That would be a great way to use some of Spider-Mans villains that wouldn't really be able to carry an entire film alone. Tombstone, Smythe, Shocker and Rhino, maybe even Scorpion or Hobgoblin.

It would also be a different approach to the villains, to have him fighting a crime lord and corrupt businessman. They could also build up Oscorp and the Norman Osborn arch a bit more this time around, and even play Jameson as more of an asshole than comic relief.
That would really set the tone for the whole scope of Spidey's New York and the odds he's up against with corporations, the mafia, and the media all against him, while he still has to balance girlfriends and homework.

I think it would be a lot more complex and wide-scale than him fighting individual villains who wreak havoc after failed experiments. That's great in it's own right, but Raimi did it so well and it would be nice to see them captialize on a chance to do something different.
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Old 10-15-2010, 12:11 PM   #1965
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well the odds logically should be good as that's exactly how bendis wrote/writes ultimate spider-man. real focus on organised crime.
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I really love Kingpin. I haven't read Ultimates but that's great. I was a huge fan of Spidey comics from the 80s because of their use of Kingpin and his lesser villains
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read the original run of usm. bendis took spidey's 12 page origin story and made it last the whole first arc, basically. lots of interaction with b-listers and a decent clone saga. it's good stuff.
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Old 10-16-2010, 12:22 AM   #1968
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Marvel, ABC prep TV return for "Incredible Hulk"
By Borys Kit and James Hibberd Thu Oct 14, 8:12 PM PDT

Who's ready for another Hulk TV series?

As DC Comics heroine Wonder Woman, who had a TV series during the 1970s, is being prepped for a return to the small screen, Marvel and ABC are developing a TV return for the Incredible Hulk. CBS produced a memorable series featuring the jade giant that ran from 1978-82 and starred Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno.

At the end of the decade, ABC followed up with three TV movies that featured incarnations of Marvel heroes Daredevil and Thor.

"Hulk" is one of two projects that are priorities at Marvel Television, Marvel Studio's TV division, which has been operating under the radar since Jeph Loeb took the reins at the end of June. The second hot property is "Cloak and Dagger," which is being developed as a possible show for ABC Family.

Both are in the early stages of development; "Hulk" has a "showrunner wanted" placard around its neck; meanwhile, Loeb is meeting with writers to hear ideas for "Cloak and Dagger."

Marvel began narrowing its list of possible TV adaptations in May with a presentation on the Disney lot. Executives presented ABC suits with a list of titles they identified as possible series:
  • "Heroes for Hire" (focusing on ex-con Luke Cage offering to take on bad guys for a price);
  • "The Eternals" (a race of superpowered beings live amid humanity in secret, inspiring legends);
  • "Agents of Atlas, Alter Ego" (private investigator Jessica Jones takes on cases involving superhumans);
  • "Moon Knight, the Red Hood" (a low-rent criminal discovers a cloak that gives him superpowers);
  • "Ka-Zar" (a Tarzan-type and his saber-toothed tiger must journey to the concrete jungle to seek justice);
  • "Daughters of the Dragon" (a dynamic female duo, one with a bionic arm and the other a granddaughter of a samurai, open a private-detective agency); and
  • "The Punisher" (one man wages a war on crime; already adapted as two feature films).
  • "Cloak and Dagger" wasn't on the list. "Hulk" was.

Although the focus appears to be on "Hulk" and "Cloak and Dagger," "Punisher" also has been selected from the herd and is eyed as a cable entry, but that is even further away. Marvel's TV division wants to take things slow, according to insiders, focusing on one or two shows, making sure they are the best they can be and establishing a quality brand before moving forward.

Marvel is in the middle of establishing a shared universe among its movies (the plots and characters form one big story), but it's unknown whether the studio will undertake a similar path with TV. Also unknown is whether there would be a connection between the film world and TV world.
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Punisher should be on premium cable so they don't have to hold back, but they can probably do it justice on basic cable as long as the channel gives them some slack.

Incredible Hulk as a television series similar to the original would be "incredible." I wonder if they'd use CGI or an actor again. Hopefully it wouldn't be horrible looking TV quality CGI.
Too bad Mark Ruffalo is way too big of a star to carry over into the television series
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[*]"The Punisher" (one man wages a war on crime; already adapted as two feature films).
So they don't acknowledge the Dolph Lundgren version?
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I'm not so sure it was ever even released in theaters
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I'm not so sure it was ever even released in theaters
According to imdb it was released theatrically in many countries, but not US.

So I guess that might be it.
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I don't even remember that Mariachi shit in the trailer. Is that the same guy from Desperado?
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Old 10-16-2010, 07:25 AM   #1974
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A Punisher TV series would be great as long as they get to cut loose on the violence.

There's actually some other pretty cool options there, but the problem with TV someone mentioned above is that the effects are usually shit, and I'd hate to see my beloved Marvel characters look shit like that.
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"Moon Knight, the Red Hood"?

As in somehow combining these two different characters into one?
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As in somehow combining these two different characters into one?
Big Bad Wolf ate Alfred.
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Probably more like Moon Knight is after the Hood (WTF @ Red Hood?)
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As in somehow combining these two different characters into one?
Unlikely given Red Hood isn't even a Marvel character.
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Fuck. Just googled it and it's some DC character.

Thought you were talking about Red Riding Hood. Meh.
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I think they mean The Hood. It would certainly tie in with the description of the plot.
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No. Red Riding Hood would.
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Thought he WAS called Red Hood and not just "The Hood". People would call him The Hood for short, but his full legal name was Red Hood.
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Nope.

Either goes by The Hood or by his real name of Parker Robbins.
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I hope they build a life-size set.
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Actually they wanna build a replica (not life-size, of course) for next year's Comic-Con.
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How about building a real one, then hold the CC there.
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Disney will be distributing Avengers and Iron Man 3 (oops, confirmation) instead of Paramount - who are pretty much building up Avengers as we speak. Disney purchased the rights legit, so I wonder what the heck Paramount were thinking.

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All they have to do is make the movies they are still doing good and make a ton of money and then move on. Paramount can't sabotage the project without costing themselves millions of dollars in the process.
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Makes sense that Disney would distribute now that they own Marvel anyways. I'm sure Disney would like to distribute all of the Marvel films eventually.
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Disney and Marvel could do sexy things together.
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I wonder what projects they have lined up
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Disney should hit up Power Pack already.
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I wonder if they will do a Marvel-Disney universe crossover video game
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Marvel Universe in the next Kingdom Hearts game.
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Every now and then I will watch The Iron man cartoon from 95 or 96. Let me tell you something that show is bad. I know 95 is kind of a long time ago, but the show looks like it was made in 1985. The animation, the dialogue, and the acting is terrible. Same with Fantastic Four, and Silver Surfer. The Incredible Hulk at best might be ok... At best. Also The Spider-Man cartoon was terrible so don't say that was good.

Outside of the X-Men cartoon how come Marvel cartoons were so bad? I feel like they should have been better. They should have had a better decade.
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The Spider-Man cartoon was good.
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If you're wondering why they were bad it's probably because they were saturday morning cartoons for kids and the storyelling was simplified and in many cases toned down to have less violence.
I don't reccomend holding kids cartoons up to the standard of adult storytelling. You're going to be disappointed. There are few exceptions.
Also, if you think Spider-Man is awful how do you think X-Men is good? The dialogue and content is the same shit, and the animation is worse.
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