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Old 10-16-2015, 07:26 PM   #20041
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Any time I watch NXT, the fans are super into the product. Hell, even the women's matches gets huge pops.

Meanwhile in WWE, we're regularly greeted with "boring" chants, or constant "what" chants to faces, or "please retire" chants to guys like Big Show who has done the same thing every year for the last ten years.

Regardless of who's overseeing what shows, NXT seems to be doing something right because their product is hot! It's a formula WWE should follow more on Raw, and then their flagship show might actually be half as entertaining as it use to be.

But hey, what do I know? I only come on to TPWW every Tuesday for the last year to see reports of Raw hitting the "lowest rating ever". WWE sucks these days. Vince is out of touch. He has no idea what his audience wants.
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Old 10-16-2015, 07:54 PM   #20042
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Remember when "Fandangoing" became a thing and WWE awkwardly tried to make it their thing the next night on Raw like someone's weird, out of touch grandpa trying to be "hip to the youngsters"?
Or the inverse of them failing to capitalize for a long time on how popular the "YES" chant was becoming outside of wrestling.

If it was Cena or any other hand picked star by the WWE, no doubt they would have been more active or acknowledge the pop culture aspect a lot sooner. Was during the time of them being rumored thinking it was just the chant that was over or just a fad and not Bryan as the real reason. Tried to "give" the chant to Big Show or downplay it thinking it would just get weaker when the opposite happened instead.
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Old 10-16-2015, 08:24 PM   #20043
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Or telling Bryan to chant no instead and not trying to ride the wave and turning him face sooner.
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Old 10-16-2015, 10:12 PM   #20044
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Old 10-16-2015, 10:19 PM   #20045
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Or telling Bryan to chant no instead and not trying to ride the wave and turning him face sooner.
I thought the "no" stuff was brilliant.....
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Old 10-16-2015, 10:21 PM   #20046
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Furthermore, I am tired of people saying that they want WWE to do what they do with NXT, but on the main show.

This simply just is not possible. There's a lot they can do to improve, but it is impossible to try to mimic the NXT model with the main roster.
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Old 10-16-2015, 10:35 PM   #20047
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Nxt is an hour a week with 4 (?) Ppvs a year vs. 3 hours of live tv, 2 hours of taped tv (not to mention Superstars and Main Event) and at least a dozen ppvs a year.

That's just for starters.
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Old 10-16-2015, 10:37 PM   #20048
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Oh and it's also just supposed to be a "minor league" type proving ground, not the finished product.
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Old 10-16-2015, 10:40 PM   #20049
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Old 10-16-2015, 10:44 PM   #20052
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It was reported earlier that AAA star Myzteziz, Luis Ignacio Urive Alvirde would be leaving the promotion.

The former / ‘original’ Sin Cara in WWE, Alvirde apparently walked out on the promotion but then said later he would join CMLL after fulfilling his obligations to AAA, and would resume working as ‘Mistico’, the name he is most known for, leading to some confusion.

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Animal singled out the Performance Center needing tag team wrestling coaching in particular. He said that there's a lot of favoritism involved in who gets jobs right now, and he things that coaching the tag division is crucial.

"You have to have guys coaching who know tag team wrestling. You have to have the experience. The business has to get away from 'this guy is my buddy, so he gets a job,'" said Animal.
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I can tell you one we did on Rhyno. We were doing some shows in Tennessee and he was staying at my house with Billy Gunn. Billy and I went out drinking the night before the show and so we made Rhyno drive the next day. We were going to Jackson, Tennessee and my brother is a police officer there – and he looks nothing like me. So I had my brother pull us over and mess with Rhyno. He did the whole windows down, hands on the steering wheel business…

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At that point, we let him know what was happening. He told me he was convinced I'd gone completely crazy. He was going to run into the nearest house and call the cops!
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Old 10-16-2015, 10:52 PM   #20053
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Furthermore, I am tired of people saying that they want WWE to do what they do with NXT, but on the main show.

This simply just is not possible. There's a lot they can do to improve, but it is impossible to try to mimic the NXT model with the main roster.
This is true, but a lot of what NXT does 100% could be translated to the main roster.

For example, giving more of the roster stuff to do. I think we can both agree that RAW can't manage time for shit. They have 3 hours of programming yet they've actually managed to have fewer interesting storylines than they had when they were only filling up two hours.

The writing would also benefit from a major change to being more like NXT. Stop with the Rusev/Lana/Dolph shit and start giving us storylines that actually matter and aren't the kind of thing that'd make reality tv cringe. Instead of the abortion that has been the Divas Revolution how about they just start writing for the women the same way they do for the men? NXT got this right with Sasha vs Baylee yet the main roster can't seem to fathom that. Why can't two women be chasing the belt just to prove they're the best in the business just like the guys?

And on the topic of Sasha vs Baylee, we know that most of the people on the main roster can go in the ring. Why can't the main roster allow them to showcase their abilities the way NXT does? Even PPV matches aren't allowed to have the same quality as some regular NXT matches. There's some sort of disconnect here, and it's not the talent of the superstars involved (most of the time). somewhere along the line talent is being hampered for some odd reason.

I'm not saying that everything from NXT will work on the main roster, but the basics would and have worked in the past. NXT's booking, writing, timing, etc really aren't much different from what WWE has done in the past with the main roster.
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I guess that means their their father came and then came again 16 minutes later, right?
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Remember when "Fandangoing" became a thing and WWE awkwardly tried to make it their thing the next night on Raw like someone's weird, out of touch grandpa trying to be "hip to the youngsters"?
I remember them going with it and then Fandango proving to be garbage and unable to sustain the momentum. Does he still work there?
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Old 10-17-2015, 02:13 PM   #20067
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Except outside of Lesnar, who only recently became a main event attraction and was instead wasting time wrestling Triple H, none of those acts are main event status. None. Hell, Lesnar is about to wrestle Taker for the third time. He's wrestled Big Show twice, Hunter 3x, Cena 3x, and Taker 3x since coming back. Other than Reigns and Rollins being sprinkled in, it's been the same repetitive matchup for arguably their biggest draw.

Rollins is jobber who is made t look lesser than his competition despite being the champion. Ambrose and Reigns have been spinning their wheels with no advancement in the least year and a half, as evident by the fact Ambrose is STILL in a feud with Bray Wyatt.

Speaking of Wyatt, he went from feuding with Ambrose, to a short term, no gain feud with Undertaker, to feuding again with Reigns and Ambrose. They've done absolutely nothing of note with Wyatt since his Cena feud. He hasn't seen the main event yet. Not sure why you pegged him as a "main event act".

Daniel Bryan was pushed down to feud with Kane while the Shield took over the Authority angle, and then pushed down further when he returned from injury.

Kevin Owens is in a feud with Ryback, after a short feud with Cesaro. Two guys who have been meaningless after a once hot but now over exposed feud with Cena.

You have the right to feel differently, but I don't find seeing guys do the same shit for years on end, getting nowhere despite having both the talent and fan support ( Ambrose and Wyatt specifically) to become more prominent, as riveting, compelling or progressive television.

Not to mention, what exactly does that have to do with NXT and Vince basically being Ted Turner to the product, as in he's there in money only? Are you trying to defer from the topic? Fact is, NXT is run by Hunter, and despite having the pull to do so, Vince does not, by choice, involve himself in the product and it's clear to see when compared to the product he does invest time in.
Basically you're entire post there is "I dont like the upper echelon of talent in the WWE right now, so any combination of them feuding sucks and means they are not real main eventers"
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Furthermore, I am tired of people saying that they want WWE to do what they do with NXT, but on the main show.

This simply just is not possible. There's a lot they can do to improve, but it is impossible to try to mimic the NXT model with the main roster.
Thats exactly right. NXT appeals to a more hardcore fan. That type of programming with not work on Monday in prime time.

Some people dont seem to get that NXT airs on the WWE Network. By the nature of where it airs, 100% of your audience are big time fans of the product. Just like the type of person who would come to TPWW to post about sports entertainment would be a bigger than average fan.

Its sometimes tough to write/produce TV that appeals beyond what YOU would like to see. Its a tough concept to grab for some people. But you clearly get it. Good to see some smart people on here.
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I remember them going with it and then Fandango proving to be garbage and unable to sustain the momentum. Does he still work there?
Yes cause ypur ass buddy Vince's creative did nothing with him, but push him to the side. Like they have so many others.
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This is true, but a lot of what NXT does 100% could be translated to the main roster.

For example, giving more of the roster stuff to do. I think we can both agree that RAW can't manage time for shit. They have 3 hours of programming yet they've actually managed to have fewer interesting storylines than they had when they were only filling up two hours.

The writing would also benefit from a major change to being more like NXT. Stop with the Rusev/Lana/Dolph shit and start giving us storylines that actually matter and aren't the kind of thing that'd make reality tv cringe. Instead of the abortion that has been the Divas Revolution how about they just start writing for the women the same way they do for the men? NXT got this right with Sasha vs Baylee yet the main roster can't seem to fathom that. Why can't two women be chasing the belt just to prove they're the best in the business just like the guys?

And on the topic of Sasha vs Baylee, we know that most of the people on the main roster can go in the ring. Why can't the main roster allow them to showcase their abilities the way NXT does? Even PPV matches aren't allowed to have the same quality as some regular NXT matches. There's some sort of disconnect here, and it's not the talent of the superstars involved (most of the time). somewhere along the line talent is being hampered for some odd reason.

I'm not saying that everything from NXT will work on the main roster, but the basics would and have worked in the past. NXT's booking, writing, timing, etc really aren't much different from what WWE has done in the past with the main roster.
I see it differently.

People remember the Attitude Era, and seem to forget how crap the in-ring product was on TV. When you see the TV today, they focus on fewer characters over a longer period of time. It allows guys to work longer matches, and tell stories in the ring. Not everyone is great at it, but you have to learn.

You're so impatient. Do you not think Sacha will eventually have a 15 minute match with Charlotte, Becky, Paige or Bayley? Of course she will. They brought up a bunch of girls at the same time, it takes time to get them over. There's no point of trying to have the epic title match before people are ready for it to matter.

What they are doing is great. Nikki was the long running champion, she clearly cared about being champion, and it was very clear that Charlotte cared a lot about finally winning it. Paige did the halfway heel turn because she is jealous that Charlotte won the title. Nikki wants the title back. Literally everything is about the title. If anything, you could make the argument that they need to have a couple programs in the Divas division that are away from the title. This is another example of complaining for the sake of complaining. The Divas are getting an opportunity to work longer matches on TV, learning to carry themselves better, and over time the division will be strong.

You gotta remember that Banks and Bayley headlined or co-headlined shows. The WWE Divas division is not at that place yet. But they hopefully will be over time. You can just go from 0 to 100 in 1 night. Its gotta be a gradual process. If you know what to look for, you can see they are setting the foundation for progression.
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Yes cause ypur ass buddy Vince's creative did nothing with him, but push him to the side. Like they have so many others.
No, they pushed him. I dont know if you recall or not, but he was working with Chris Jericho. The fans got into him in a mocking way, and it caught on. WWE let that flourish, kept him on TV, and he fell on his face.

He is a classic example of guys who get on TV for a small thing, but then dont elevate their game. But sure, if you feel better blaming the bogeymen like the writing team or Vince, go for it.
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Old 10-17-2015, 03:09 PM   #20072
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How would you have him "elevate him game", while sticking to the confines of what the booking team allow him to do?
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Old 10-17-2015, 03:19 PM   #20073
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Fandango actually sustained a concussion and that was the end of that.

I actually very much like the talent they do have. You claiming otherwise is reaching for an argument that doesn't exist. The fact that they've done nothing to progress said talent is the issue I take. But keep spinning your wheels pal.
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Old 10-17-2015, 03:29 PM   #20074
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OK Cynick is delirious, he said the Divas revolution is great. Really, Charlotte copies her father so much and is horrible at it. Becky just stands around and says so.thing weird all the time. Sascha is the boss but maybe not even the leader of BAD? Paige turns heel then switches her mindset and wants to be back in PCB and is jealous of Natti. Its all shit and an extra match on Raw every week is pretty much all the Divas revolution is. Lana and Summer Rea was the best thing going about the divas until Lana got hurt.
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Old 10-17-2015, 04:39 PM   #20075
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No, they pushed him. I dont know if you recall or not, but he was working with Chris Jericho. The fans got into him in a mocking way, and it caught on. WWE let that flourish, kept him on TV, and he fell on his face.

He is a classic example of guys who get on TV for a small thing, but then dont elevate their game. But sure, if you feel better blaming the bogeymen like the writing team or Vince, go for it.
No, they halted the push. Fandango got a concussion. Chris told him not to divulge it. He did anyway. They halted the push as a result. It had nothing to do with him not "elevating his game" because he's been cleared since with no resuming of the push.
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I guess that means their their father came and then came again 16 minutes later, right?
I just assumed that Brie was the older one based on how she acts.
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I still don't know which Bella is which. And I don't really care.
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Actually, I still don't know which Uso is which. But I like the Usos.
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Fandango was already finished with his feud with Jericho and was fighting for the IC title. Which was then won by Curtis Axel. How would Jericho been involved at that point? Just giving out advice?
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Bigger ass Brie, bigger boobs Nikki. It's pretty simple now.
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