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Old 01-25-2012, 06:23 PM   #2001
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I honest-to-God would have gladly accepted the DCnU if they had packaged it as a parallel universe like Ultimate Marvel. It's the fact that this new continuity also went out of its way to take everything we'd already known and say "nope, didn't happen" that annoys the hell out of me.
I doubt this will last forever. It's only a matter of time before things get 'Heroes Return'd, or whatever that Marvel thing was in the 90's.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:02 PM   #2002
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So details of the Green Arrow show, "Arrow", is out. Sounds... cool?
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:25 PM   #2003
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No it doesn't. It's DC and it isn't Batman or Superman. Nobody cares.
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:44 PM   #2004
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That was said about Iron Man four years ago.
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Old 01-27-2012, 09:24 PM   #2005
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Batman and Superman were in Marvel?
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:08 PM   #2006
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I was saying in terms of C-list heroes.
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Old 01-28-2012, 04:14 PM   #2007
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How dare you call Iron Man c-list.
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Old 01-28-2012, 05:46 PM   #2008
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Wouldn't have batted an eye before the first movie.
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:17 PM   #2009
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As a comic reader and collector since 1993, I can assure you that is totally not true.
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Old 01-28-2012, 07:03 PM   #2010
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Iron Man is B-List.
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Old 01-29-2012, 04:10 AM   #2011
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yeah before his film, you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who really rated iron man higher than a b at best. sorry rammsteinmartin.
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Old 01-29-2012, 05:55 AM   #2012
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Meh, I understand. B-list sounds alright, but C-list? Come on the guy was one of the main Avengers since forever.

Ah whatever, I don't really care anyway lol. The whole point is that this 'Arrow' show will likely suck because it's DC and it isn't Batman and Superman.
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Old 01-29-2012, 07:59 AM   #2013
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hey

watch it.

i happen to really like green arrow. my gf and i even cosplayed arrow and canary for a con last year. so shut up. it could be great.
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Old 01-29-2012, 08:00 AM   #2014
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Old 01-29-2012, 09:31 AM   #2015
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Hawkeye > Green Arrow.

It's on now. :foc:
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Old 01-29-2012, 01:13 PM   #2016
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Green Arrow > Hawkeye

But either way, I don't really care for either of them.
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Old 01-30-2012, 08:08 AM   #2017
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Hawkeye > Green Arrow.
Totally.
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Old 01-31-2012, 11:30 AM   #2018
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Love both.
It depends who is writing each character.
Both can be made boring as fuck.
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So, a series of Watchmen Prequel comics are now confirmed.

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The news comes after months of rumors, leaked art and speculation. Starting this summer, the lineup of seven miniseries, dubbed Before Watchmen, includes:

RORSCHACH (4 issues) – Writer: Brian Azzarello. Artist: Lee Bermejo

MINUTEMEN (6 issues) – Writer/Artist: Darwyn Cooke

COMEDIAN (6 issues) – Writer: Brian Azzarello. Artist: J.G. Jones

DR. MANHATTAN (4 issues) – Writer: J. Michael Straczynski. Artist: Adam Hughes

NITE OWL (4 issues) – Writer: J. Michael Straczynski. Artists: Andy and Joe Kubert

OZYMANDIAS (6 issues) – Writer: Len Wein. Artist: Jae Lee

SILK SPECTRE (4 issues) – Writer: Darwyn Cooke. Artist: Amanda Conner

The first Watchmen-related comic book material released since the original series, a new Before Watchmen issue will be released weekly, with each containing a two-page Curse of the Crimson Corsair back-up written by Len Wein and illustrated by John Higgins. Both creators worked on the original Watchmen, Wein as editor and Higgins as colorist. The initiative will be wrapped with a Before Watchmen: Epilogue one-shot by various creators.
So, in essence, by the end there will be more prequel material than the original series.
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:21 AM   #2020
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Well, that pretty much tears it. I'm done with DC.
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:37 AM   #2021
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Here's a quote from Straczynski on the subject of Alan Moore's complaints about these prequels being made: "I get it. But by the same token, Alan has spent most of the last decade writing some very, very good stories about characters created by other writers, including Alice (from Wonderland), Dorothy (from Oz), Wendy (from Peter Pan), as well as Captain Nemo, the Invisible Man, Jekyll and Hyde and Professor Moriarty. I think one loses a little of the moral high ground to say, "I can write characters created by Jules Verne, HG Wells, Robert Louis Stevenson, Arthur Conan Doyle and Frank Baum, but it's wrong for anyone else to write my characters."
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:40 AM   #2022
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Yeah, but none of those authors were around to say 'no.' So JMS is full of shit.

Plus, there's a big difference between doing an adaptation and just saying "Hey, we're taking your story and slapping a bunch of extra bullshit onto it, and there's nothing you can do about it. So nyah."
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so when he dies it's fair game? double standards.
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:45 AM   #2024
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Well when he dies, he can't make a living off of his work anymore, so yeah, I'd say it would be fair game at that point.
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he cant make a living off watchmen now, he doesnt own it.
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Okay, you're right in that aspect. DC owns the rights and can technically do whatever they want with it, no matter how much of a shameless and artistically bankrupt cash-grab it may be.

However, it's still a massive slap in the face to exploit the guy's work against his will. And yes, if all of the writers that Moore pulled from were around to say 'no' when he pulled from them and he did it anyway, I'd be calling him just as much of an asshole as I'm calling JMS. Though at least Moore had the decency to do an alternate interpretation of their works.
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Okay, you're right in that aspect. DC owns the rights and can technically do whatever they want with it, no matter how much of a shameless and artistically bankrupt cash-grab it may be.

However, it's still a massive slap in the face to exploit the guy's work against his will. And yes, if all of the writers that Moore pulled from were around to say 'no' when he pulled from them and he did it anyway, I'd be calling him just as much of an asshole as I'm calling JMS. Though at least Moore had the decency to do an alternate interpretation of their works.
alls im sayin is moore is a hypocrit and these prequels will prolly suck. *shrug*
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Old 02-03-2012, 03:37 AM   #2028
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Oh, the prequels will almost definitely suck, I agree with you there.

Well....the ones by Azzarello might be good, but it still doesn't change the fact that none of them need to be made.
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I don't really think this makes Moore a hypocrite. The important thing, as NM said,is that moore's work was adaptations, while DC is fucking with the original work.

That is a huge difference, in my opinion.
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Technically they are doing nothing to the original work. You can read the original work and still enjoy it all you want.
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Meh. If anything, it is kudos for DC for holding out as long as they did. They've been trying for years and years to get Moore on board for something, if not as writer, then as "producer" or "overseer" or whatever. So they have finally given up and are now doing this before memory of the movie goes away entirely.
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Smallville Season 11 Comic:



Essentially a new Superman series in the Smallville continuity. Same deal as the Buffy comics.
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Just watched Justice League: Doom. It was decent. I didn't follow any of the news about it since it was announced, so I was hoping for a more faithful adaptation of Tower of Babel.

As it is...

SPOILER: show
The only thing adapted was the idea that Batman has contingency plans against the JLA members. Ra's Al Ghul is not in the movie, nor is the Tower of Babel.
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Also, just realized that Smallville Superman is not wearing the underpants outside of his uniform. I AM BLINDED BY RAGE.
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just watched Justice League: Doom

enhanced my belief that Batman is the best character ever
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Man, I've been reading some of the new 52 series and I'm pretty confused, but still blown away. Love what I've been reading so far but some of the timelines are really confusing. Who's timelines are included and who's aren't. Some are completely changed but others like Barbara Gordon are pretty much continuing into the same timeline, just some things have changed (a "miracle" happened and now she isn't paralyzed.

Wish I had a chart or something to explain. Sheesh.
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Give up on a coherent explanation and enjoy it for what it is, I say.
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