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Old 11-03-2010, 01:09 AM   #2041
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I think they'll save him for Iron Man, though he could easily be a handful for the Avengers. Also, hopefully, some big in-fighting would be awesome. For the love of god have Thor take a swing at Tony. He'll want to. Maybe say that epic line when he returned after Civil War ("One of us is a God of Thunder, the other...").

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Old 11-03-2010, 01:15 AM   #2042
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Old 11-03-2010, 01:19 AM   #2044
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What if Thanos' arrival was set to be some big other-worldly threat (in 2012), and SHIELD knew it was coming, and that's why they were in a hurry to get The Avengers assembled?
They could play the Thanos situation as a global event.
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Old 11-03-2010, 01:23 AM   #2045
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Maybe Red Skull knew the deal as well, having that Cosmic Cube and all. There's no hint that he'd return in Avengers, though.

Sure those mystic items will factor in the greater scheme of things.
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Old 11-03-2010, 01:27 AM   #2046
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Where does the Infinity Gauntlet end up after it's appearance in Thor, and could it be a macguffin for the film? Like the Ark in Raiders.
Thanos and The Avengers not only fighting, but in a race to find it first. Obviously Thanos would, and the Avengers would have to stop him.
We know SHIELD was looking for Thor's hammer, but why not the Infinity Gauntlet before Thanos arrived and claimed it?
Maybe it could be lost in a place like Egypt or South America after the events of Thor. I don't want to keep coming back to the 2012 thing, but maybe it ended up in the possession of the Mayans after Asgard?
I'm not sure where Asgard is in the historical timeline.

Either way I think any of that would be an interesting angle. I want to see Thanos, and that's the best scenario I can think of.
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Kang would be good too. As long as it's a heavy hitter.
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Martin fucking Sheen as Uncle Ben in the Spidey reboot.
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:58 AM   #2050
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And Sally Field as aunt May.

For some reason I think she fits the role, even though I hate her face.
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So why was Nick Fury changed to look like Samuel L. Jackson? Was it because of all the upcoming movies?
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Which are based on Ultimate Nick Fury, whose appearance was based on Samuel L. Jackson.
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He's looked like that for nearly a decade in the Ultimate comics line. It was a big deal but in a cool, 'fresh' way.
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Why did they do that though? Do they even use the original look of Nick Fury anymore?
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Why did they do that though? Do they even use the original look of Nick Fury anymore?
Marvel 616 Fury is the same guy you know. As for Sam Jackson Fury... if I remember correctly the creators simply believed Sam Jackson was badass. No social political message or anything like that.

Does this bother you in any way?
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Also Fignuts, you seem to be the resident Captain America fan. What Captain America story should I read?

I don't really need the origin story
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Also Fignuts, you seem to be the resident Captain America fan. What Captain America story should I read?

I don't really need the origin story
Check out the current series by Ed Brubaker. There is a massive Omnibus available.
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All this talk of who will be the Avengers antagonist, and you guys haven't even mentioned their ach nemesis in the comics.




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Marvel 616 Fury is the same guy you know. As for Sam Jackson Fury... if I remember correctly the creators simply believed Sam Jackson was badass. No social political message or anything like that.

Does this bother you in any way?
No not at all. I was just curious as to why the changes. I thought the original Nick Fury was stale and they need to somehow bolster sales or something like that. Also the thought of not having a popular black hero character also sprung to mind.
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Also Fignuts, you seem to be the resident Captain America fan. What Captain America story should I read?

I don't really need the origin story
Start with Winter Soldier and go from there.
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No not at all. I was just curious as to why the changes. I thought it was the original Nick Fury was stale and they need to somehow bolster sales or something like that.
In my view, Fury's never around enough to be stale. When he comes around business picks up. I think DC wants to use Amanda Waller in a similar way.
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No not at all. I was just curious as to why the changes. I thought it was the original Nick Fury was stale and they need to somehow bolster sales or something like that.
No, see they made this alternate universe, and released titles like ultimate x-men, and ultimate spider-man. It is a whole different marvel universe, seperate from the one you know. Idea was to retell the popular characters' origins in a modern day setting.

Anyway, most characters get a redesigned look, and they modeled fury after Samuel L. Jackson.
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No, see they made this alternate universe, and released titles like ultimate x-men, and ultimate spider-man. It is a whole different marvel universe, seperate from the one you know. Idea was to retell the popular characters' origins in a modern day setting.

Anyway, most characters get a redesigned look, and they modeled fury after Samuel L. Jackson.
Alright fascinating. So this new X-men movie is based on this ultimate universe? Same with Spider-man?
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Check out the current series by Ed Brubaker. There is a massive Omnibus available.
That's a new Captain America isn't it? I want some semi older stuff with Steve Rodgers. Is that his name? I think so.
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In my view, Fury's never around enough to be stale. When he comes around business picks up. I think DC wants to use Amanda Waller in a similar way.
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That's a new Captain America isn't it? I want some semi older stuff with Steve Rodgers. Is that his name? I think so.


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Brubaker started with Cap when Steve Rogers was behind the mask. And definitely the whole Winter Soldier run.

Pretty much everything Brubaker did was Captain America was golden, so definitely check it out!
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Old 11-06-2010, 05:01 PM   #2069
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That's a new Captain America isn't it? I want some semi older stuff with Steve Rodgers. Is that his name? I think so.


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The one I mentioned is the same that Lockjaw is talking about. Rogers is still cap. It's not until later that there is a new cap. Happens around the seventh trade.
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Alright fascinating. So this new X-men movie is based on this ultimate universe? Same with Spider-man?
Not sure about the X-Men one, but I think the Spider-Man one is. I actually really liked Ultimate Spider-Man, and ones of it's main selling points is the dialogue, which usually takes precendence over the action.

I'm sure I read somewhere that the new Spider-Man film is based in high school or something, that it's more based on the Ultimate comics.

As mentioned above with the Ultimate universe making differences, such as with Nick Fury, other include that Gwen Stacy was killed by Carnage, and Mary Jane finds out about Pete's identity after a couple of weeks, instead of years.
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Old 11-06-2010, 07:24 PM   #2071
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Well there's that, and she's appearing in Green Lantern. Across the board she's been used more, like her well received stint in Smallville. It's unlikely she'll be used as a unifying card for a movie-verse, as DC/WB aren't looking into that (shame).
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I imagine they'll get around to it... eventually...
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Saw this at the store today, and flipped through it. Looked pretty good. Seems like a follow up to Maximum Carnage, as some of the players from that are in this issue. Artwork is all painted and really amazing. Carnage is pretty crappy character, but good writing can make a good read out of any character. And carnage has at least always looked cool, and he looks awesome with this art.
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Is this the same artist from the Venom/Carnage story where Toxin was born?

Cool cover btw.
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Saw this at the store today, and flipped through it. Looked pretty good. Seems like a follow up to Maximum Carnage, as some of the players from that are in this issue. Artwork is all painted and really amazing. Carnage is pretty crappy character, but good writing can make a good read out of any character. And carnage has at least always looked cool, and he looks awesome with this art.
I think Carnage is interesting when portrayed as a huge threat. The premise of a straight up serial killer gaining super powers and being thrown into the mix with all of these comic characters was a good concept.

I thought Maximum Carnage was great (though I was much younger when I read it. I'd like to again), but I have heard others say the same as you about his character going nowhere. Apparently it just became really one dimensional and boring?
Anyways, I still always liked his presence and I think he could be written well, like you say.
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Carnage is coming back in the above series, but not as we know him/it. For starters...

SPOILER: show
Kletus Cassidy is dead. Not much of a surprising considering he got ripped in half back in New Avengers #2, but hey, you never know what people consider spoilers. Going to end up on a new (seemingly female) host.
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I imagine they'll get around to it... eventually...
Well they could easily start one, since Green Lantern and a Superman reboot are due.
The involvement of Batman is the problem. Nolan doesn't want his series in any way connected to the same universe where a Superman and GL exist, and I tend to agree with him.

But Nolan and Bale will be done with the series come 2012, and I'm sure DC will almost immediately start looking at their options for re-casting Batman and either continuing or rebooting the series under a new director.

I wouldn't be suprised to see that Batman tied in with the GL and Superman franchises that will already be into their sequels.
And they'll eventually make a Wonder Woman movie too, for better or worse.

Personally, I think crossing GL and Superman over into eachother's movies would be fun, but I'm not too enthusiastic about seeing them tied up with Batman or the rest of JLA at all.
I'd rather see them do something entirely new with Batman in the wake of Nolan. Adapting and filming some graphic novels, and taking a more live-action comic book approach would be interesting. Something like Arkham Asylum or Dark Knight Returns filmed in the style of Watchmen or Sin City.
They're obviously gonna want to keep making Bat movies, but starting a traditional style movie series that soon after wouldn't be nearly as interesting as something we haven't seen attempted yet.
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It's hilarious how Robert Downey Jr. just plays Tony Stark as himself. So it's like he's just always in character
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