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Old 11-07-2010, 12:31 AM   #2081
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All this talk of who will be the Avengers antagonist, and you guys haven't even mentioned their ach nemesis in the comics.




Ultron FTW
that is a really badass picture of Ultron
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:45 AM   #2082
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It's hilarious how Robert Downey Jr. just plays Tony Stark as himself. So it's like he's just always in character
Well the Iron Man scripts were treated as guidelines that the actors pretty much winged it on, so it's believable that Robert was pretty much himself in the movies. That's cool and kinda warped.
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:19 AM   #2083
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I know. Him acting like himself is perfect for Tony Stark. I just think it's funny to see him being Stark in real life.
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:24 AM   #2084
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Ultron would be better for a sequel, if they have any plans of introducing Vision.
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:30 AM   #2085
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Is there any word on whether the Ant-Man movie is gonna be "in the universe"? I know he's not gonna be in the first Avengers movie, but perhaps the next one?
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Old 11-07-2010, 05:41 AM   #2086
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Ah man another year and a half,

Looks fucking good though, awesome cast and the Avengers logo at the end looked sweet.

So fucking pumped for this film!
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:12 AM   #2087
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Marvel 616 Fury is the same guy you know. As for Sam Jackson Fury... if I remember correctly the creators simply believed Sam Jackson was badass. No social political message or anything like that.

Does this bother you in any way?
It sure as fuck bothers me.

Way too drastic of a look change.
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:13 AM   #2088
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Changing character's race all of a sudden makes absolutely no sense.
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It's in a seperate "universe" though. It's not like he just woke up one morning black and bald. It's the Ultimate reboots.
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It's in a seperate "universe" though. It's not like he just woke up one morning black and bald. It's the Ultimate reboots.
I'm pretty confused with all the comic book series you got going in the USA.

Ultimate is a completely different universe? I thought it was more like just another fancy name for a new series.
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But hey, black and bald was one Fury's disguises in the Secret Invasion.
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:55 PM   #2092
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Yea look at it that way. He had extreme plastic surgery and cosmetic procedures to change his appearance, because people were onto him.
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The only thing I have a problem with having an alternate universe is it's basically a cop out. It's basically you have very few ideas left so mke another universe entriely different. Lets keep the old universe around in case we get a few ideas along the way. This way they crank out more stories and we don't have do worry about affecting anything.

It is kind of fun, and does seem like the majority of Marvel fans enjoy this Ultimate universe. So it's all good.
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Yea look at it that way. He had extreme plastic surgery and cosmetic procedures to change his appearance, because people were onto him.
As stupid as this sounds, this already happenned in Punisher after Jigsaw cut him in prison or something.
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Ultron would be better for a sequel, if they have any plans of introducing Vision.
Dunno, I thought that at first, but the more I thought about it, the more ways I could see him being the villain in the first movie. With Loki having a part in it, it could even be him that gives Ultron his mind and intelligence, since man hasn't been able to achieve the level of A.I. that Ultron has. It's not like Utron is some mindless robot. He is a self aware organism, with his own personality and everything.

Plus, like I said, he is THE avengers villain. Moreso than Dr. Doom or Kang even.

Kang is way too ridiculous btw. You think him being a purple headed invader was stan lee's idea of a joke?
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The only thing I have a problem with having an alternate universe is it's basically a cop out. It's basically you have very few ideas left so mke another universe entriely different. Lets keep the old universe around in case we get a few ideas along the way. This way they crank out more stories and we don't have do worry about affecting anything.

It is kind of fun, and does seem like the majority of Marvel fans enjoy this Ultimate universe. So it's all good.
It's more about giving freedom to the writers. In the regular universe, you have all these restrictions based on the history of the character, and where they are going in the future. For the major titles, writers have to talk to quesada, the editor in chief to clear certain stories, and they even have big meetings to discuss these things.

With ultimate, they can do whatever the fuck they want. Makes for some good reading. Plus, I don't get where you are saying they made it because they are out of ideas. It's not like they cancelled the regular universe. It's still going on, and there are new stories and ideas for the characters every month.
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Also, the Ultimate Universe came out when all the big Marvel movies were starting to get made. Films like Blade, X-Men and Spider-Man brought a lot of attention to Marvel Comics, and the Ultimate line was a great way of starting from the beginning so new fans don't have to worry about 40 years of backstory.

And as mentioned above somewhere, it gave the writers a chance to reimagine all the origins in a mordern setting.
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Although since then, some projects have become hybrids of the Ultimate and 616 universe. For example in the X-Men Legends games, some characters have their Ultimate costumes whilst others have 616.
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That's game stuff though, a lot more leeway there.
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Still stupid, and one of the reasons I disliked those games.
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Still stupid, and one of the reasons I disliked those games.
You dislike the X-Men Legends/Ultimate Alliance games? They're the best pure Marvel games of the last 6 years.
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Haven't played Ultimate Alliance games (yet), but the X-Men Legends games are amazing.

Taking elements of both universes is no excuse to dislike them.
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That's game stuff though, a lot more leeway there.
Oh yeah of course, though there have been various elements from each. Nothing major, but for example that Symbiote invasion in Avengers shortly after Civil War. The symbiotes were straight out of the Ultimate universe, not literally, but I mean they were done by the same artist.

Just love picking out small details like that where it's like 'Oh cool, those are the symbiotes from the ultimate comics'.
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Old 11-07-2010, 07:05 PM   #2108
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White Tiger.

As close as Marvel'll get to Black Panther being white.

And even then, I think the man behind the mask was black, can't remember.
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Old 11-07-2010, 07:10 PM   #2109
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White Tiger.

As close as Marvel'll get to Black Panther being white.

And even then, I think the man behind the mask was black, can't remember.
All of the people who called themselves White Tiger have been minorities with special abilities.

Yeah, I remember one being Hispanic for sure.

Nah, but I want the man behind the mask to be white, period.
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If there's a strong enough case for a white Black Panther I'm all for it.

But not 'just because', or to 'get back' at an earlier racial swap with a character.
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If there's a strong enough case for a white Black Panther I'm all for it.

But not 'just because', or to 'get back' at an earlier racial swap with a character.
Clearly I was only joking, but what was that strong enough case for a black Nick Fury again?
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Coz Sam Jackson is cooler than David Hasselhoff.

IMO.
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Coz Sam Jackson is cooler than David Hasselhoff.

IMO.
Yes, cause clearly they based the original Nick Fury on David Hasselhoff.
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Although, I didn't mean my comment literally.
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Clearly I was only joking, but what was that strong enough case for a black Nick Fury again?
Sam motherfucking Jackson. We discussed this.
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Actually, the Hoff looked fucking badass in that film. Shame it sucked though.
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Yeah, I agree. Hasselhoff looked awesome.

And we didn't get to see his saggy tits, too.

Dunno, this new Nick Fury is too ghetto for me.
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You dislike the X-Men Legends/Ultimate Alliance games? They're the best pure Marvel games of the last 6 years.
I found them extremely boring.
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