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Old 11-09-2010, 07:17 PM   #2161
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Lol I don't want to make it seem like I don't like anything "ponderous" or emotional, or anything profound. I do. And I'm not above stories that take themselves as important. I don't tend to accuse things of being pretentious unless it strikes me that way.


I was trying to put into words the things I don't dig about anime. It's nothing story-wise. I love things like you mentioned, but I'm talking about how the art of anime tries too hard to evoke something in it's characters I'm just not into, or don't buy. It doesn't really have anything to do with the narrative.
It's just a style thing, and maybe I'll just never get past it. So I hope it doesn't seem like I'm directly opposed to anything "deep." Quite the opposite.

I want to watch Ninja Scroll. I probably won't like it, but I love ninjas and ninja stories, but there aren't really any good ninja movies in live action.
Does it have anything to do with someone wearing ridiculous, fashion over function clothing, while wielding a weapon that doesn't even begin to make sense (and was clearly designed by a ADHD kid trying to make a tank-gun-sword) and this character is standing stoically? You can't dress like a an attention whore, master a weapon that is batshit crazy and then pretend like you don't care. You clearly care.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:18 PM   #2162
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Ghost in the Shell is not emo at all. Also, the existentialism in Ghost is actually warranted, and integral to the story, as opposed to most anime, where it is just some cheap way to make a character appear deep. In Ghost, the Major really is deep.

So Jeri may still like it. It's my personal favorite.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:18 PM   #2163
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:22 PM   #2164
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I think this tangent is just as warranted as waxing on the pigment of Nick Fury's skin, Sixx.
On days where there is no Marvel news to be had, I think tangents are acceptable.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:29 PM   #2165
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Fair enough.

Carry on, then.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:32 PM   #2166
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Samuel L. Jackson should be a part of the DC movies too. At this point, he's just a part of every franchise.
And it's pretty hilarious, because he's just himself now. Nick Fury and Mace Windu are essentially just Samuel L. Jackson in different costumes.
I think he's great though.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:34 PM   #2167
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The purple lightsaber is badass and anyone who doesn't think so can suck my peepee.
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Palpatine, drop your mother fuckin lightsaber or I swear on the mother fuckin Force I will slay your ass.
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Old 11-09-2010, 08:27 PM   #2169
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:24 PM   #2170
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NIGGA WAT?

The guy talks like a gang leader, not special unit colonel.
where have you seen sam jackson ever use the n word in a "ghetto" way?

how do they make ultimate fury sound ghetto?
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The purple lightsaber is badass and anyone who doesn't think so can suck my peepee.
sixx thinks he should have had the black lightsaber
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Old 11-10-2010, 02:11 AM   #2172
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Ghost in the Shell is not emo at all. Also, the existentialism in Ghost is actually warranted, and integral to the story, as opposed to most anime, where it is just some cheap way to make a character appear deep. In Ghost, the Major really is deep.

So Jeri may still like it. It's my personal favorite.
Yes. This. Also Jeri, this series is stylistically subdued for an anime. The worst you have to put up with is minimal CGI use for some vehicles and people with like robot eyes or purple hair due to being cyborgs.

Def watch the Ghost in the Shell anime movie, then Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex series, then GitS: SAC 2nd Gig, then GitS 3. Don't bother with the second movie.
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Old 11-10-2010, 03:04 AM   #2173
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There's a third movie? when the fuck did that happen?
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Old 11-10-2010, 03:05 AM   #2174
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Fuck, still havn't watched the series yet.
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Old 11-10-2010, 03:07 AM   #2175
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Old 11-10-2010, 08:16 PM   #2176
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Back to skin color.

Why the fuck is a black guy (Idris Elba) playing a Norse god Heimdall?

Seriously, Norse god being black? This is ridiculous.
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Old 11-10-2010, 08:35 PM   #2177
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I'm pretty sure the Asgardians in this incarnation of Thor aren't even human, so skin color is a moot point, if it wasn't already.
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And I imagine that pisses off all 5 of Heimdall's fanbase.
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I'd be more concerned about Odin looking like a Babylon 5 character, if I was going to be hung up on any appearances.
I'll give the Ultimates approach a fair shake though. I guess I was just expecting a more Lord of the Rings/Gladiator look when they brought Kenneth Branagh on.
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eh...I am on the fence about the whole racial issue of super heroes.
In one hand, I don't care at all. In the other hand, my inner mega fan boy is angry at the fact that they are not trying to be more accurate with the physical look of the character. I would rather see more films about kick ass black heroes such as Luke Cage(one of my all time favs), The Black Panther, Bishop or Deathlok instead of trying to fill racial quotas.
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Yeah, def thought it would have a much more Shakespearean/Middle Earth feel to it. But I guess KB had to tone it down to keep in line with the entire movieverse. Still looks fucking awesome
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Idris Elba is a pretty good actor, so I won't sweat it, but it is kinda WTF.
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I'd be more concerned about Odin looking like a Babylon 5 character, if I was going to be hung up on any appearances.
I'll give the Ultimates approach a fair shake though. I guess I was just expecting a more Lord of the Rings/Gladiator look when they brought Kenneth Branagh on.
So are there already pics of Hopkins as Odin?
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So are there already pics of Hopkins as Odin?
Trailer's been out for a while.
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I don't think it's a big deal at all. I don't really view things like that. I can understand how people are purists about their characters though, and don't mean to be "racist" in complaining.

Even if comic companies intentionally incorporate or reappropriate races among characters, I don't really have an issue with that either. It's not like they're trying to call attention to it and distract from the stories. Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury isn't trying to "blacken" the character in a way that's unintentionally offensive and stupid. He's just Nick Fury, with a new look. I think that's more than fine.

The truth is, most of the iconic superheroes are white males because they were created in a time when the social climate was much different, and the creators probably felt pressured to make all of their heroes from a mold. As sad as it is, a non-white superhero probably wouldn't have been recieved well back then.
There have been some great characters that have come along over the years now that diversity is accepted and creators have more freedom.
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Well Nick L Jackson Fury isn't a big deal because there are tons of crazier changes in other universes in Marvel. Zombieverse, Apeverse, etc. Hell, the Exiles encounter fucked up versions of characters all the time. Male Mystique for example.
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I would rather see more films about kick ass black heroes such as Luke Cage(one of my all time favs), The Black Panther, Bishop or Deathlok instead of trying to fill racial quotas.
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And where have you been, Sixx?
Dunno. Just watched the Thor trailer ( no idea if there's only one or what ) and you can only see Odin for like a second. Wearing some crazy monocle or something.
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Luke Cage(one of my all time favs), The Black Panther, Bishop or Deathlok instead of trying to fill racial quotas.
Those particular characters may not be given the vote of confidence to have a full-length motion picture.
They tend to only make comic movies for the major superheroes, but it's evident that they're going to have to tap into the second tier characters soon because there simply aren't any major heroes left to make movies for.

I like the idea of 10 minute short films for characters like Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Dr. Strange.
They'd be attached to major films like Avengers or Iron Man 3, and start to familiarize the mainstream audience with these characters for potential full length features.
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Thor has nearly a minute of screen time in the trailer. And there's pics of him in this thread, but I don't expect you to dig for them.

Also; pause the trailer. lol
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Those particular characters may not be given the vote of confidence to have a full-length motion picture.
They tend to only make comic movies for the major superheroes, but it's evident that they're going to have to tap into the second tier characters soon because there simply aren't any major heroes left to make movies for.

I like the idea of 10 minute short films for characters like Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Dr. Strange.
They'd be attached to major films like Avengers or Iron Man 3, and start to familiarize the mainstream audience with these characters for potential full length features.
That is a good idea, though I'd be more inclined to make tv series for characters like Black Panther and especially Bishop. Bishop has a bunch of solo comics that lend themselves well to tv series adaptations.
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Thor has nearly a minute of screen time in the trailer. And there's pics of him in this thread, but I don't expect you to dig for them.

Also; pause the trailer. lol
Why are you telling me about Thor's screen time?

Can you read? I was talking about Odin.
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That idea isn't mine, btw. I read something about Marvel/Disney exploring that idea. Actually, they could attach them to non-Marvel Disney films too.
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Why are you telling me about Thor's screen time?

Can you read? I was talking about Odin.
Whoops, I meant Odin.

Swap the names and the post stands, though.
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That idea isn't mine, btw. I read something about Marvel/Disney exploring that idea. Actually, they could attach them to non-Marvel Disney films too.
Kinda like the micro episodes for the new Avengers series. Would love to see a well done live action Bishop series.
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I love micro-episodes of anything. I wish every movie had a short film at the start of it. It's just such a great bonus.
I love how Pixar movies have a short film, and I love the fake trailers in Grindhouse. I just feel like I'm getting more entertainment, and if Marvel or even DC would start doing it I'd be thrilled.
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Whoops, I meant Odin.

Swap the names and the post stands, though.
Could you link me to the trailer, then?

The one I saw had like a second of Odin.
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There's only one, 5min trailer, and you said you seen it.
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